Noobs on war....

[Nuuskamuikkunen]

I´m so sick of this ♥♥♥♥, that noobs join war battles and lose them less than 8min. Nobody likes these kind of wortless battles. So RETO-MOTO increase the requirements for war battles so wortless noobs stay longer in staged. I don´t care if player base on war is fewer, but these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ annoing noobs.

[mickm6875]

Originally posted by baddog:

People complain about noobs going 2/12 or whatever, but take a look at other games with proper skill based MM, many supposed 'good' players then complain about barely going 1/1 as they are only playing against same tier, and how every match is sweaty.

Players wont be happy whatever, if there is people with poor k/d players will complain but still boast their own positive k/d, if it was properly matched everyone would be more like 1/1 and would complain the game was too try hard. Anything mid ground just seems a setup for those at the bottom of whatever pool is drawn from.

Not every soldier in war is special forces material, many are just conscripts, a better solution would be player vets on each team showing leadership, offering advice and trying to bootstrap noob players up, rather than tear them down.

War already has too few players and doesnt need more barriers, pretty sure most generals prefer fought battles, even a loss over AR purgatory.

I agree with everything you said and personally I would be all for staged getting the boot with exception of first encounter and the 3 specialist matches.

However while that isn’t the case, the majority of noobs flood to staged as is their right. But the ones that won’t will continue to have a bad time because they aren’t playing people on their level.

Obviously removing staged to flood the random pool would also have its drawbacks with clan abuse etc. and would probably make a bunch of people rage quit forever which isn’t a thing the game can afford. Not a simple solution I’m afraid

[mickm6875]

Originally posted by Slice of Fudge:

Originally posted by baddog:

People complain about noobs going 2/12 or whatever, but take a look at other games with proper skill based MM, many supposed 'good' players then complain about barely going 1/1 as they are only playing against same tier, and how every match is sweaty.

This ^, not to mention how this game doesn't really have "good" players, I suck at this game and typically go 1/1 or less, however does that mean I'm a complete noob? no, most of the time I'm getting killed playing the objective, or sometimes I'm a god with the APC strats, doesn't mean I'm good nor bad.

Just like... "get gud" and clutch up brotha

It means you’re not a fragger. War needs fraggers but it also needs support guys with APCs in particular. Neither is nearly as effective without the other. What it doesn’t need is people focusing purely on kills rather than useful ones like recons on attacking matches etc. but know the difference between a k/d bloater and a fragger that still plays the objective or strategic locations. Those are the actual good players.

Personally I’m somewhere in the middle between a fragger and a support player. There are definitely a bunch of people better than me. No shame in admitting that

[Manco Devil]

The flip side of potential war restrictions is battles being one sided due to not enough players (poor aussies). Which would inevitably lead to bots in war mode LOL!

[Your_White_Knight]

Originally posted by mickm6875:

Originally posted by Your_White_Knight:

War should go "bye" first.... it's really a pointless thing now.



It wasn't like only "War" existed... that time there wasn't a "staged" or "war" it was just the game...

They will never get rid of war. It is their only feature that gives them an advantage over other games plus I would imagine it is their most consistent money maker

I'm going to have to press "X" for doubt...

War is full of tryhards but from what I hear about long queue lines to get anywhere I would place my money on there being more casual staged players then War... I'm not 100% sure about it, and it would be interesting to get a Developer in here to give us the hard numbers but that's my guess.

War / Generals is a niche feature sure... but it's not what draws player in here to play Generals and War...

[mickm6875]

Originally posted by Your_White_Knight:

Originally posted by mickm6875:

They will never get rid of war. It is their only feature that gives them an advantage over other games plus I would imagine it is their most consistent money maker

I'm going to have to press "X" for doubt...

War is full of tryhards but from what I hear about long queue lines to get anywhere I would place my money on there being more casual staged players then War... I'm not 100% sure about it, and it would be interesting to get a Developer in here to give us the hard numbers but that's my guess.

War / Generals is a niche feature sure... but it's not what draws player in here to play Generals and War...

Agreed. Except for a couple things. It’s a hook to get people in. I never would have touched this game until reading about the whole global war thing in it. There are plenty of better FPS games out there with better graphics, gameplay etc.

As for numbers in staged. Maybe. But it doesn’t matter because number of players aren’t nearly as important as number of paying players and the whales in war spend a LOT of money on this game. There really isn’t that much to buy on the FPS side as it is all pretty easily grindable. But buying rank 12s / generals, ranking up ATs with gold as it is way better rates than any other purchase with gold. Hell even deploying with gold to farm warfunds are all sustainable income streams for RETO. Once someone has all the equipment in the FPS that’s it. No more money needed.

[PROEISHAN]

Originally posted by Nuuskamuikkunen:

Originally posted by Crystal meth enthusiast:

I do not believe that clans in War are good, they just stomp naked random noobs.

Yeap, clans only fight random plebs, but not other clans and it has been that for years.

that's why if you are in an H&G clan, I automatically assume the player is a virgin. like bruh it's H&G for crying out loud

[mickm6875]

Originally posted by PROEISHAN:

Originally posted by Nuuskamuikkunen:

Yeap, clans only fight random plebs, but not other clans and it has been that for years.

that's why if you are in an H&G clan, I automatically assume the player is a virgin. like bruh it's H&G for crying out loud

You cut me deep bro XD

[Snow Miser]

Originally posted by PROEISHAN:

Originally posted by Nuuskamuikkunen:

Yeap, clans only fight random plebs, but not other clans and it has been that for years.

that's why if you are in an H&G clan, I automatically assume the player is a virgin. like bruh it's H&G for crying out loud

Virgin is a compliment, that's saying they even have the tools to reproduce.
and let's hope that's the case

[sfa]

If this game has any chance of surviving long term from here...

Newbs are the only source that will ensure this...

Every time some pretentious sweateran decides that any part of this game should be quarantined for selfish subjective reasons...

The game dies a little quicker...

If any mode of the FPS disappears...

Say goodbye to a large proportion of players...

As we all know...there are many other games out there...

What HnG offer ATM...

Occupies a niche that satisfies at least the ones who persist with playing it...

The developers need to prioritise a fix for the many people who try to get the game to operate on their PCs...but for some reason won't...

This alone costs a massive loss of Newb resource...

Instead of a message telling people they are not welcome...(in any part of the game)...

We all have a Duty to try to encourage anyone to participate...in all aspects and modes...

Therefore at least we as the player base are trying to keep the game alive...

Not the other way round...