Money?

[Yellow]

8-10+ development team on this game. Where is the money coming from? 560k a year at 70k per person or 320k at 40k.

[76561198145897598]

Money coming from youuuu.

[DieNasty]

doesn't seem that buggy to me

[Yellow]

引用自 Enforcer88：

Money coming from youuuu.

I don't pay or play. Is it possible that there are just few whales that pay a ♥♥♥♥ ton? If so how the hell is that even possible.

[Ziller]

You underestimate how much people play this game. They have between 2.5k to 9.5k players at anytime, since the launch. This is very good for a game that have been out for a few years. And this is only on steam (they have client that allow you to play the game without steam) So they get easily +10k players on peak. http://steamcharts.com/app/227940

People buy ''Veteran''(premium) quite a lot, look at your squad at the end of a war battle and you will see 25-50% of players have premium.

I'm sure people spend money to unlock stuff faster (Or buy the ''bundle'') with gold, because of the grind.

I don't say the roll on gold, but money don't look like an issue, they are even recruting on their website : https://heroesandgenerals.com/development/jobs-at-reto-moto/

[Green Tea]

I belive they ran the company with a deficit the first years. Quite normal for a software developer I think.

[Yellow]

引用自 Ziller：

You underestimate how much people play this game. They have between 2.5k to 9.5k players at anytime, since the launch. This is very good for a game that have been out for a few years. And this is only on steam (they have client that allow you to play the game without steam) So they get easily +10k players on peak. http://steamcharts.com/app/227940

People buy ''Veteran''(premium) quite a lot, look at your squad at the end of a war battle and you will see 25-50% of players have premium.

I'm sure people spend money to unlock stuff faster (Or buy the ''bundle'') with gold, because of the grind.

I don't say the roll on gold, but money don't look like an issue, they are even recruting on their website : https://heroesandgenerals.com/development/jobs-at-reto-moto/

The best answer i can get on a forums.

[Lassital]

Well, We cant see the Financial statments for last year but we currently for have it for 2015.

Reto-Moto's Gross Income was 35.636.582 DKK or 5.1 Million USD
Staff Costs were 14.565.589DKK or 2.1 Million USD
Profit was 25.011.975DKK or 3.6Million USD
Cash on hand/bank was 8.276.714DKK or 1.1 Million USD
Total Debt was 14.141.077DKK or 2.2Million USD
The Value (equity) of the company was -1.566.278DKK or -250k USD


Thier Holding Company's Gross Income for the year was 402k DKK or about 60k USD.
Net profit was ~42k USD.
Cash on hand 10k USD.
Value of 600k USD.

Development in the year
The income statement of the Company for 2015 shows a profit of DKK 25,011,975, and at 31 December 2015 the balance sheet of the Company shows negative equity of DKK 1,566,278.

The company has in prior years been financed through an agreement with an external publisher. The loss in 2014 was primarily related to managements estimate regarding the total liability the company had regarding prior years financing from the publisher. In 2015 the management has signed an agreement with the publisher regarding a final settlement. The liability has been adjusted accordinly to reflect the agreement. The result have therefore been effected positively from the settelment, as also disclosed in the notes.

In continuance of the positive results, and managements expectations to the future, management has descided to recognize deferred tax of that part of tax losses carry forward, management expect to use in the near future.

[Yellow]

引用自 Lassital：

Well, We cant see the Financial statments for last year but we currently for have it for 2015.

Reto-Moto's Gross Income was 35.636.582 DKK or 5.1 Million USD
Staff Costs were 14.565.589DKK or 2.1 Million USD
Profit was 25.011.975DKK or 3.6Million USD
Cash on hand/bank was 8.276.714DKK or 1.1 Million USD
Total Debt was 14.141.077DKK or 2.2Million USD
The Value (equity) of the company was -1.566.278DKK or -250k USD


Thier Holding Company's Gross Income for the year was 402k DKK or about 60k USD.
Net profit was ~42k USD.
Cash on hand 10k USD.
Value of 600k USD.

Development in the year
The income statement of the Company for 2015 shows a profit of DKK 25,011,975, and at 31 December 2015 the balance sheet of the Company shows negative equity of DKK 1,566,278.

The company has in prior years been financed through an agreement with an external publisher. The loss in 2014 was primarily related to managements estimate regarding the total liability the company had regarding prior years financing from the publisher. In 2015 the management has signed an agreement with the publisher regarding a final settlement. The liability has been adjusted accordinly to reflect the agreement. The result have therefore been effected positively from the settelment, as also disclosed in the notes.

In continuance of the positive results, and managements expectations to the future, management has descided to recognize deferred tax of that part of tax losses carry forward, management expect to use in the near future.

Was that the games income?

[Lassital]

引用自 Snow dragon：

Was that the games income?

As in Revenue? No. As its illegal to post revenue under Danish law or something.
Best we get is the entire companies gross income.

[Lassital]

https://datacvr.virk.dk/data/offentliggorelse?dl_ref=ZG9rdW1lbnRsYWdlcjovLzAzL2EyLzkxLzRiLzFjL2UwN2UtNDhjNi1hZTkyLTRhOGQxNWI1ZTgyYg

[Green Tea]

引用自 Lassital：

引用自 Snow dragon：

Was that the games income?

As in Revenue? No. As its illegal to post revenue under Danish law or something.
Best we get is the entire companies gross income.

Never heard of that, source?

[Lassital]

引用自 Green Tea：

引用自 Lassital：

As in Revenue? No. As its illegal to post revenue under Danish law or something.
Best we get is the entire companies gross income.

Never heard of that, source?

Never mind. Seems that it was saying that they don't have to disclose Revenue. *shrug* This is what the financial statement was referencing

引用自 Danish Financial Statements Act(of 2001)：

32(1) Where warranted by special competitive considerations, the enterprise may aggregate the following items and instead add an item designated “Gross profit” or “Gross loss”:
Items nos. 1-5 in Schedule 2, format 3 and
items nos. 1-3 in Schedule 2, format 4.
(2) Section 11(2) shall not apply to items which have been aggregated in accordance with subsection (1).
(3) Comparative figures, cf. section 24, for the items in question may be omitted in the first year in which the enterprise no longer combines the items under subsection (1).

引用自 Danish Financial Statements Act(of 2001)：

http://www.fsr.dk/~/media/Files/Faglig%20viden/Regnskaber/Standarder%20og%20vejledninger/aarl_eng.ashx

[Lassital]

*shakes fist at everyone making me do weird financial research instead of historical research*

[Green Tea]

So how do you explain the "gross profit" of 35.636.582 DKK in 2015, when it was only 58.068 in 2014? Did they start selling gold that year?

Also what exactly does this mean?

In 2015 the management has signed an agreement with the publisher regarding a final settlement. The liability has been adjusted accordinly to reflect the agreement. The result have therefore been effected positively from the settelment, as also disclosed in the notes.

Did they just tell this publisher guy that they werent going to pay up?

[Lassital]

引用自 Green Tea：

So how do you explain the "gross profit" of 35.636.582 DKK in 2015, when it was only 58.068 in 2014? Did they start selling gold that year?

Also what exactly does this mean?

In 2015 the management has signed an agreement with the publisher regarding a final settlement. The liability has been adjusted accordinly to reflect the agreement. The result have therefore been effected positively from the settelment, as also disclosed in the notes.

Did they just tell this publisher guy that they werent going to pay up?

Seems like they payed 9mil in 2014 to thier "publisher" then I suppose got it back in 2015, then Had an additional 7 million from a one year "long term loan" from their shareholders.

Those amounts were added into the "Gross Income" (see note 3)