Problem running serious sam or any OpenGL game

[Benders]

Hello,I seem to have a problem with Serious Sam or any OpenGl applications.They flat-out crash.Here's how I went.
I recently reinstalled windows,because I had a problem with a malware.So everything worked out fine,untill today I tried Original Half-Life.Crashes.Google'd it,some solutions from 2011 for Linux.I try Serious Sam:Revolution I have a "Don't Send"error upon entering the game.I Google about OpenGL programs not working for my AMD card.All I see is some results from 2011 to install those now outdated drivers.

My specs are:
AMD FX 8320 3.5 GHz
2X4 DDR3 1600MHz RAM
ASUS Direct CUII AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 (Latest Drivers)
Windows 10 with latest updates.

Things I tried
Reinstalling drivers (uninstall,reboot,install,reboot)
Reinstalling Windows.
Looking endlessly on Googele.
Tech Support with AMD.(no response yet)

I installed Windows from Microsoft's site.

[Melissa]

AMD has some issues with OpenGL and their older graphics cards for some reason, the only solution we've found so far are those outdated drivers you mention.

I think the newer AMD cards don't have this problem. This is definitely something you'd want to address to AMD support, and hope they have an interesting answer.

Do let me know if they reply! I'd be interested in a better solution.

[Benders]

The thing is.It worked flawlessly before.Untill I installed the new Windows.Then it all went to ♥♥♥♥.I reached out to AMD for this problem.Will see,how it goes.But,HD 7850 is not that old.Even the GeForce 4 didn't have this.

[Melissa]

Well, AMD and Nvidia (GeForce) are separate :)

It seems to be a combination of modern AMD drivers and older AMD cards that causes this issue.

[Benders]

Problem solved by itself.Weird.Did a reinstall anyway and everything's back to normal.

[Melissa]

Well, that's good to know! I'm guessing a game cache verify would've done the trick as well then.

[Benders]

I did a whole PC reinstall.But,before that,it just went away for some reason

[Benders]

bump:problem came back.

here is the SeriousSam log file.

[14:14:48]
[14:14:49] --- Serious Engine Startup ---
[14:14:49] Engine build: Distro Beta AP_3216
[14:14:49]
[14:14:49] Executable: D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam Revolution\Bin\SeriousSam.exe
[14:14:49] Assumed engine directory: D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam Revolution\
[14:14:49]
[14:14:49] Examining underlying OS...
[14:14:49] Type: WinNT
[14:14:49] Version: 6.1, build 7600
[14:14:49] Misc:
[14:14:49]
[14:14:49] Detecting CPU...
[14:14:49] Vendor: AuthenticAMD
[14:14:49] Type: 0, Family: 15, Model: 2, Stepping: 0
[14:14:49] MMX : Yes
[14:14:49] CMOV: Yes
[14:14:49] Clock: 3500MHz
[14:14:49]
[14:14:49] Global memory status...
[14:14:49] Physical memory used: 0/1023MB
[14:14:49] Page file used: 1024/2047MB
[14:14:49] Virtual memory used: 238/2047MB
[14:14:49] Memory load: 35%
[14:14:49] Process working set: 0MB-1MB
[14:14:49]
[14:14:49] Replace history loaded: 35 replacements
[14:14:49] Loading group files...
[14:14:49] D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam Revolution\All_02.gro: 5257 files
[14:14:49] D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam Revolution\All_01.gro: 757 files
[14:14:49]
[14:14:49] Detecting input devices...
[14:14:49] joysticks found: 16
[14:14:49] joysticks allowed: 8
[14:14:49] joy 1: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:49] joy 2: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:49] joy 3: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:49] joy 4: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:49] joy 5: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:49] joy 6: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:49] joy 7: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:49] joy 8: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:49]
[14:14:49] Desktop settings...
[14:14:49] Color Depth: 32bit
[14:14:49] Screen: 1360x768
[14:14:49] Virtual screen: 1360x768
[14:14:49] Monitors directly reported: 1
[14:14:49]
[14:14:49] Current display: 'CDD' version 1025 - 1360x768x32
[14:14:49]
[14:14:49] Resolutions:
[14:14:49] 15 suitable resolutions
[14:14:49] Initializing sound...
[14:14:49] vorbisfile.dll loaded, ogg playing enabled
[14:14:49] MPX playing disabled: Cannot load amp11lib.dll.
[14:14:49] Detected devices: 1
[14:14:49] device 0: Speakers (Realtek High Definiti
[14:14:49] ver: 2560, id: 1.100
[14:14:49] form: 0x000fffff, ch: 2, support: 0x0000002e
[14:14:49]
[14:14:50] Steam AppID: 227780 (227780)
[14:14:50] Steam App: Serious Sam: Revolution
[14:14:50] Requesting Steam workshop subscribed items for enumeration starting at 0...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Player0.plr' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Controls0.ctl' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Player1.plr' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Controls1.ctl' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Player2.plr' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Controls2.ctl' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Player3.plr' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Controls3.ctl' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Player4.plr' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Controls4.ctl' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Player5.plr' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Controls5.ctl' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Player6.plr' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Controls6.ctl' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Player7.plr' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Controls7.ctl' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Levels_01_Hatshepsut.stt' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Levels_02_SandCanyon.stt' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'Levels_03_TombOfRamses.stt' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Loading 'mp_Levels_1_1_Palenque.stt' from cloud...
[14:14:50] Command line: ''
[14:14:50] joysticks found: 16
[14:14:50] joysticks allowed: 8
[14:14:50] joy 1: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:50] joy 2: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:50] joy 3: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:50] joy 4: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:50] joy 5: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:50] joy 6: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:50] joy 7: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:50] joy 8: error 0x000000a5
[14:14:50] Loading game library 'D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam Revolution\Bin\Game.dll'...
[14:14:50] include "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\55778399\227780\local\PersistentSymbols.ini";
[14:14:50] <command>(1): Cannot load script file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\55778399\227780\local\PersistentSymbols.ini"': Cannot open file `C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\55778399\227780\local\PersistentSymbols.ini' (No such file or directory) ()
[14:14:50] New control schemes version for 0
[14:14:50] New control schemes version for 1
[14:14:50] New control schemes version for 2
[14:14:50] New control schemes version for 3
[14:14:50] New control schemes version for 4
[14:14:50] New control schemes version for 5
[14:14:50] New control schemes version for 6
[14:14:50] New control schemes version for 7
[14:14:51] This is the first time Serious Sam: Revolution starts.
[14:14:51] We're going to automatically detect some settings for you now.
[14:14:51] If anything goes wrong, please refer to the Steam discussion forums.
[14:14:52] ! EAX error: Cannot query property support.
[14:14:52] Setting sound format ...
[14:14:52] Direct Sound initialization ...
[14:14:52] ! EAX error: Cannot query property support.
[14:14:52] Direct Sound initialization ...
[14:14:52] 44100Hz, 16bit, default device, mix-ahead: 0.2s
[14:14:52] mixer buffer size: 34 KB
[14:14:52] decode buffer size: 34 KB
[14:14:52] EAX: Disabled
[14:14:52]
[14:14:52] Serious Sam version: AP_3216
[14:14:52] Reading levels directory...
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\01_Hatshepsut.wld' : '^c75FF60Hatshepsut^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\02_SandCanyon.wld' : '^c75FF60Sand Canyon^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\03_TombOfRamses.wld' : '^c75FF60Tomb Of Ramses^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\04_ValleyOfTheKings.wld' : '^c75FF60Valley Of The Kings^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\05_MoonMountains.wld' : '^c75FF60Moon Mountains^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\06_Oasis.wld' : '^c75FF60Oasis^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\07_Dunes.wld' : '^c75FF60Dunes^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\08_Suburbs.wld' : '^c75FF60Suburbs^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\09_Sewers.wld' : '^c75FF60Sewers^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\10_Metropolis.wld' : '^c75FF60Metropolis^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\11_AlleyOfSphinxes.wld' : '^c75FF60Alley Of The Sphinxes^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\12_Karnak.wld' : '^c75FF60Karnak^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\13_Luxor.wld' : '^c75FF60Luxor^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\14_SacredYards.wld' : '^c75FF60Sacred Yards^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\15_TheGreatPyramid.wld' : '^c75FF60The Great Pyramid^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\1_0_InTheLastEpisode.wld' : '^c829BFFIn the last episode^r' spawn=0x0001000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\1_1_Palenque.wld' : '^c829BFFSierra de Chiapas^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\1_2_Palenque.wld' : '^c829BFFValley of the Jaguar^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\1_3_Teotihuacan.wld' : '^c829BFFThe City of the Gods^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\1_4_Teotihuacan.wld' : '^c829BFFSerpent Yards^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\1_5_Teotihuacan.wld' : '^c829BFFThe Pit^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\2_1_Ziggurrat.wld' : '^c829BFFZiggurat^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\2_2_Persepolis.wld' : '^c829BFFThe Elephant Atrium^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\2_3_Persepolis.wld' : '^c829BFFCourtyards of Gilgamesh^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\2_4_TowerOfBabylon.wld' : '^c829BFFTower of Babel^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\3_1_GothicCastle.wld' : '^c829BFFThe Citadel^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\3_2_LandOfDamned.wld' : '^c829BFFLand of the Damned^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\3_3_CorridorOfDeath.wld' : '^c829BFFThe Grand Cathedral^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\CaptureTheFlag\B_TheSecondEncounter\CTF_Badlands.wld' : '^c829BFFBadlands^r' spawn=0x00200000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\CaptureTheFlag\B_TheSecondEncounter\CTF_Eclipse.wld' : '^c829BFFEclipse^r' spawn=0x0020000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\CaptureTheFlag\B_TheSecondEncounter\CTF_FrontLine.wld' : '^c829BFFFrontline^r' spawn=0x0020000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\CaptureTheFlag\B_TheSecondEncounter\CTF_Grid.wld' : '^c829BFFGrid^r' spawn=0x0020000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\CaptureTheFlag\B_TheSecondEncounter\CTF_LittleTrouble.wld' : '^c829BFFLittle Trouble^r' spawn=0x00200000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\CaptureTheFlag\B_TheSecondEncounter\CTF_Temple.wld' : '^c829BFFTemple^r' spawn=0x00200000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\CaptureTheFlag\C_TheRevolution\CTF_Crux_Ansata.wld' : '^cFFBF66Crux Ansata^r' spawn=0x00200000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\CaptureTheFlag\C_TheRevolution\CTF_Isolation.wld' : '^cFFBF66Isolation^r' spawn=0x002001ff ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\CaptureTheFlag\C_TheRevolution\CTF_MedievalTrouble.wld' : '^cFFBF66Medieval Trouble^r' spawn=0x002001ff ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\CaptureTheFlag\C_TheRevolution\CTF_PyramidsOfFire.wld' : '^cFFBF66Pyramids of Fire^r' spawn=0x00200000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\ControlZones\A_TheFirstEncounter\CZ_TheBazaar.wld' : '^c75FF60The Bazaar^r' spawn=0x008001ff ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\ControlZones\B_TheSecondEncounter\CZ_Coug.wld' : '^c829BFFCoug^r' spawn=0x0080000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\ControlZones\B_TheSecondEncounter\CZ_Courtyard.wld' : '^c829BFFCourtyard^r' spawn=0x0080000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\ControlZones\B_TheSecondEncounter\CZ_FrontLine.wld' : '^c829BFFFrontline^r' spawn=0x0080000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\ControlZones\B_TheSecondEncounter\CZ_Station.wld' : '^c829BFFStation^r' spawn=0x0080000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\ControlZones\C_TheRevolution\CZ_GrassyZones.wld' : '^cFFBF66Grassy Zones^r' spawn=0x00800000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\A_TheFirstEncounter\DesertTemple.wld' : '^c75FF60Desert Temple^r' spawn=0x001201ff ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\B_TheSecondEncounter\Compound.wld' : '^c829BFFCompound^r' spawn=0x00120000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\B_TheSecondEncounter\DockingBay.wld' : '^c829BFFDocking Bay^r' spawn=0x00120000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\B_TheSecondEncounter\Fortress.wld' : '^c829BFFFortress^r' spawn=0x00120000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\B_TheSecondEncounter\GoHunting.wld' : '^c829BFFGO hunting!^r' spawn=0x00120000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\B_TheSecondEncounter\Hole.wld' : '^c829BFFHole^r' spawn=0x00120000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\B_TheSecondEncounter\Lefty.wld' : '^c829BFFLefty^r' spawn=0x00120000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\B_TheSecondEncounter\LittleTrouble.wld' : '^c829BFFLittle Trouble^r' spawn=0x0012016f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\B_TheSecondEncounter\RaSpahShoy.wld' : '^c829BFFRa-Spah-Shoy^r' spawn=0x00120000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\B_TheSecondEncounter\RedStation.wld' : '^c829BFFRed Station^r' spawn=0x00120000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\B_TheSecondEncounter\SunPalace.wld' : '^c829BFFSun Palace^r' spawn=0x00120000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\B_TheSecondEncounter\TheLostTomb.wld' : '^c829BFFThe Lost Tomb^r' spawn=0x00120090 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\B_TheSecondEncounter\WeGotSkullsNBonesToo.wld' : '^c829BFFWe Got Skulls'n'Bones Too^r' spawn=0x00120000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\B_TheSecondEncounter\Yodeller.wld' : '^c829BFFYodeller^r' spawn=0x00120000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\C_TheRevolution\BrkeenChevap.wld' : '^cFFBF66Brkeen Chevap^r' spawn=0x000201ff ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\C_TheRevolution\Gvide.wld' : '^cFFBF66Gvide^r' spawn=0x00120000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Deathmatch\C_TheRevolution\HoodlumsBackyard.wld' : '^cFFBF66Hoodlum's backyard^r' spawn=0x000201ff ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Demo\KarnakDemo.wld' : 'Karnak Demo^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Demo\Palenque_Demo.wld' : 'Palenque Demo^r' spawn=0x0005000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Intro.wld' : 'Intro and Flyover^r' spawn=0x00000000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\IntroTFE.wld' : 'Intro and Flyover^r' spawn=0x00000000 ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\IntroTSE.wld' : 'IntroTSE^r' spawn=0x0000000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Survival\Christmas.wld' : '^c88ff88Christmas Survival 2014^r' spawn=0x00400000 ('ChristmasSurvival2014')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Survival\FasterFaster.wld' : 'Faster! Faster!^r' spawn=0x004001ff ('FasterFaster')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Survival\LynxTown.wld' : 'Lynx Town^r' spawn=0x00400000 ('LynxTown')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Survival\MentalsNeedle.wld' : 'Mental's Needle^r' spawn=0x00400000 ('MentalsNeedle')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Survival\Spaceball.wld' : 'Space Ball^r' spawn=0x0040000f ('Space Ball')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\Technology\TechTest.wld' : 'Technology Test^r' spawn=0x0000000f ('')
[14:14:52] file 'Levels\new_intro.wld' : 'new_intro^r' spawn=0x00000000 ('')
[14:14:52] Reading demos directory...
[14:14:52] Levels\LevelsMP\new_intro.wld
[14:14:52]
[14:14:52] * START NEW DISPLAY MODE ...
[14:14:52] Starting display mode: 1024x768xdesktop (window)
[14:14:52] CDS: mode reset to original desktop settings
[14:14:52] Raw mouse input is usable
[14:14:53]
[14:14:53] Pixel Format Description:
[14:14:53] Number: 8 (TYPE_RGBA)
[14:14:53] Flags: DRAW_TO_WINDOW SUPPORT_OPENGL DOUBLEBUFFER
[14:14:53] Color bits: 32 (8:8:8:8)
[14:14:53] Depth bits: 16 (0 for stencil)
[14:14:53]
[14:14:53]
[14:14:53] * OpenGL context created: *----------------------------------
[14:14:53] (ATI Technologies Inc., AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series, 4.5.13431 Compatibility Profile Context 16.150.2211.0)
[14:14:53]
[14:14:53] All textures reloaded.
[14:14:53] All shaders and framebuffers reloaded.
[14:14:53]
[14:14:53] Automatic 3D-board preferences adjustment...
[14:14:53] Detected: ATI Technologies Inc. - AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series - 4.5.13431 Compatibility Profile Context 16.150.2211.0
[14:14:53] Matching: *Radeon* (ATI Radeon)
[14:14:53] Different than last, applying new preferences.
[14:14:53] Mode: normal
[14:14:53] GLSET: Initial setup.
[14:14:53] Scripts\GLSettings\Initial.ini(39): Identifier 'mdl_iLODDisappear' is not declared
[14:14:53] Scripts\GLSettings\Initial.ini(39): Cannot assign: different types
[14:14:53] All models reloaded.
[14:14:53] GLSET: Normal video preferences.
[14:14:54] All textures reloaded.
[14:14:54] All shaders and framebuffers reloaded.
[14:14:54] All shadows uncached.
[14:14:54] Done.
[14:14:54]
[14:14:55] Starting session: 'Levels\LevelsMP\new_intro.wld'
[14:14:55] level: 'Levels\LevelsMP\new_intro.wld'
[14:14:55] spawnflags: 0008ffff
[14:14:55] max players: 1
[14:14:55] waiting: 0
[14:14:55] network is on

i hope this one is it.

[Melissa]

Hm, is there any mdmp file?

[Benders]

Where the file could be located?

[Melissa]

Should be in the Bin folder of the game.

[Benders]

No file to be found there.But,SS is not the problem,it happens with some other OpenGL games too,but now,some games do work,some don't.

[Benders]

Any ideas?AMD doesn't know the answer.Should I just thorw out my card?

[Melissa]

Weird that there is no mdmp file. That could also indicate that a crash is originating from inside the video drivers.

If you ask me, I'd always suggest Nvidia cards. :)

[Benders]

And the problem is gone again,I installed Beta drivers for the GPU,didn't work.Tried to play Windowed mode Quake 2 on Software,worked,switched to opengl,worked.Went on to serious sam and it was working.


that's the weirdest fix that i've ever done.