Install Steam
login
|
language
简体中文 (Simplified Chinese)
繁體中文 (Traditional Chinese)
日本語 (Japanese)
한국어 (Korean)
ไทย (Thai)
Български (Bulgarian)
Čeština (Czech)
Dansk (Danish)
Deutsch (German)
Español - España (Spanish - Spain)
Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America)
Ελληνικά (Greek)
Français (French)
Italiano (Italian)
Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian)
Magyar (Hungarian)
Nederlands (Dutch)
Norsk (Norwegian)
Polski (Polish)
Português (Portuguese - Portugal)
Português - Brasil (Portuguese - Brazil)
Română (Romanian)
Русский (Russian)
Suomi (Finnish)
Svenska (Swedish)
Türkçe (Turkish)
Tiếng Việt (Vietnamese)
Українська (Ukrainian)
Report a translation problem
The author of this topic has marked a post as the answer to their question.
Discussions Rules and Guidelines
0 
Report this post
It’s getting a ton of positive press, and it’s day-one on PlayStation Plus and Xbox Game Pass, so I think they’ll be okay.
Once human is third person freemium slopware whereas this will at the very least be a paid title without freemium mechanics.
You're allowed to have multiple things dealing with similar topics, this is about as inane as saying that Battlefield shouldn't exist because COD also has guns. What kind of backwards logic you're working with there is beyond me. It's not like they're covering the same genre either so thematic overlaps now make or break games? Since when?
You might have a case if they were competing in the same realm of game, but they really aren't.
I'm also not sure why this would be premature or ruined especially since this is a title that follows up what again? Ah right Control, which literally took the piss out of damn near every situation Jesse found herself in.
I'm not going to argue gameplay or possible shortcomings it might have since we have exactly 0 insight into that at the moment aside from the heavily edited gameplay footage that is very likely not to be indicative of the actual gameplay, but tone wise, you either haven't played Control or you weren't listening to what Jesse's inner monologue was saying.
Control also literally had a funhouse level which most if not damn near everyone agreed upon was one of the best and most memorable stages in game.
Just because you nerdily internalize Control as kooky and "funny", doesn't mean that's what it is... Most of the game seemed like a pretty emotionally grounded story about a woman trying to save her mentally sick brother.
There are few moments of humor, and most of them are subtle. A few goofy anomalies and projector presentations.
It's pretty damn hyperbolic to say "they literally took the piss out of damn near every situation Jesse found herself in." This wasn't exactly hitchiker's guide to the galaxy and I didn't really get the vibe of a comedy game. It really wasn't that funny, as zany as you want to make it sound. Jesse spitting out an MCU-tier quip at the start of an area, doesn't make it a funny or lighthearted game. I'm almost cringing having to explain to someone why CONTROL isn't "hilarious". You must have a lot of reddit karma.
The funhouse sequence was an action sequence with a rock song. It wasn't funny. There's a difference between fun and funny.
Who said anyone wasn't "allowed to have mulitple things dealing with similar topics?" I know I didn't...
What's inane is you equating my discussion of two games in a specific, nuanced, and relatively small genre of storytelling- to me making a generalization about all shooters. You really overstretched yourself on that one too.
You're trying to tell me about missing the "tone" and you can't tell the difference between CONTROL and this goofy ass disposable extraction shooter? I don't remember hearing buffalo bob narrate the CONTROL trailer. 24 months after release there will be maybe 150 players left. You really think this piece of ♥♥♥♥ is going to really be the one? This looks like Ubisoft's recent extraction shooter attempt.
As far as I'm concerned, this relatively new paranatural (not paranormal) genre has lost most of its edge now because of goofy action games like Once Human, and this new thing.
A cool disfigured hiss entity will never be intriguing or scary again, because now I know they're just a bulletsponge miniboss for my little looty shooty, not an obstacle in an immersive narrative.
Hey though- I might be all wrong. Maybe this slapstick goober attitude is what the kids want. But I remember the last time they did this. Control is where the original Alan Wake was about 10 years ago: a solid cult classic. Everyone wants Alan Wake 2, so what do they do? They release Alan Wake's American Nightmare. A piece of ♥♥♥♥ arcade zombie shooter that got thrown in bad Xbox bundles. It pretty much ruined the Alan Wake franchise until enough time went by for everyone to forget about it, and then they made 2.
Let's check back in a few years and see what happened!
Yes, subtle humor in Control certainly. When did you last play it?
Cause I replayed it two weeks back. Seems to me like you don't have a good grasp on Control, it's characters nor the amount of humor, or most of it went completely over your head.
No, Control wasn't subtle at all either. You can go ahead, do yourself a favour and replay the great game that Control is and see for yourself. The game did follow a serious story line but at no point did it take itself overly seriously. No, Jesse did not only quip at the start of areas, her dialogue and internal monologue were full of that crap, in fact I can name less times at which Jesse or everyone involved were actually acting super seriously without any sense of leisure and so on. You seem to forget that what's happening in Control is relatively normal to all of the denizens of the Oldest House, and that Jesse actually enjoyed that kind of life but okay, you supposedly understand the story don't you?
Just because you're misremebering it doesn't mean that's not how it was. Oh and speaking of what is supposedly your take on Control's story, saving Dylan right, which was emotional for all of... Two dialogue options? After which Jesse started taking the piss? Hmmmmmm?
It was a completely zany sequence, you're ignoring what was actually present in game to prove a point. It was equal parts absurd and fun.
It's a completely and utterly fair point.
'Paranatural' story telling is a simple thematic, whether multiple games make use of it or not is not important. This is you showcasing your poor memory once again:
This is your question, in the OP. So no, I haven't overstretched myself, you simply have a logical fallacy there. Saying that X is present in X why do we need Y is about as intelligent as saying that Apples equal Oranges because they're both round.
What I'm saying is, firstly, Control never took itself seriously, which is a fact and second, the game's trailer is senzationalized. There's no precedent that this is the actual tone of the game based on prior trailers nor what we know about the game. You're basing your opinion from a single ( 1) highly edited and scripted trailer. I can get into Control and wrap up a hyped up trailer using nothing but quips/funny sequences and we could be having this same conversation about Control.
I'm simply not assuming anything about the game. While I do hope that FBC will be a good co-op shooter and bring success to Remedy, I am also expecting nothing, that doesn't mean I need to spew uneducated nonsense on the forums for clown points.
Except this is nothing new? What are you on about?
Be honest, did you come across SCP or something like just recently and are angry that people are having fun with it?
This is exactly what they were in Control though. Have you actually played the game? Hiss wasn't really mystified in Control and you've come to find out pretty much everything there is to know about it through the game.
I don't for a moment believe you're older than 15. The way you're going about this is just silly. Not really an indicator of maturity.
See this is a fair point, and you could've led with that instead of all the incomprehensible crap you wrote up before. And I never contested this, AWAN was crap. What I'm arguing is what you've wrote up before, which is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Alan Wake's American Nightmare was an absolute ♥♥♥♥ show, but studios and people learn, and we know nothing about FBC's actual gameplay at the moment. A highly scripted trailer and sequences are simply not indicative of the actual gameplay. Is it possible that the history will repeat itself? Certainly, will it be because of the stupid reasons you brought up before? Certainly not.
Yes, let's do that without spinning up stupid threads starting off with dumb psuedo intellectual nonsense.
You haven't even seen the gameplay trailer?
GIMME $20. If you don't know that one, eat your foot.
Pick one.
"Hmmmmmm"? Okay weirdo. At no point did I see Jesse start urinating anywhere.
Whoa slow down there, turbo- you miss that? That was a joke. Something that wasn't really in Control.
Honestly- I actually don't remember the part where she goes into the Bureau to save her brother, and then decides to pick up a microphone and do a stand up comedy routine about it all. Maybe that was a DLC?
But hold on let me google "why does jesse faden go to the bureau" just to confirm "my take"
Google: "Jesse Faden goes to the Federal Bureau of Control (FBC) to find her missing brother, Dylan"
CONTROL Wiki "Jesse began working with the Bureau to stop the Hiss, but only as a means to the end of finding the whereabouts of Dylan."
Wikipedia: "In October 2019,[6] Jesse Faden arrives at the Oldest House following a telepathic message from Polaris, seeking the whereabouts of her kidnapped brother Dylan."
Damn, I guess the story was really about the janitor all along.
Sounds like projection. Heavy one at that. I don't even have a Reddit account.
No it was pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ funny. Both the notes ( which you clearly haven't read), Jesse's quotes and dialogues with characters. It didn't go overboard with but it wasn't as subtle as you claim it to be. And again, who's to say that FBC isn't exactly like that as well? I could very well cherry pick Control's 'funny' sequences and comments made by both Jesse and the supporting cast and come up with a trailer like the last FBC trailer. What I'm saying is and what I've been saying so far - is that the trailer simply isn't indicative of anything yet which you have been failing to understand since the very get go. It is absolutely astounding how you've missed this.
Again, if you want to argue, read what someone writes or bust. I stated and this is very true that the trailer is simply not indicative of any gameplay, it could be a fabrication for all we know. Until a solid chunk of a mission is played in it's entirety without cuts and senzationalism we won't know.
Again, displaying horrid reading comprehension. I clearly stated which one is which and have been saying it from the first comment I've made. Don't make me break down the entire discussion here because you've got a poor attention span ~ which is again super funny to me since you're claiming to be different to 'kids'.
This is what my very first comment contains:
In other words, I am disputing your stupid claim about Once Human and Control's tone, both of which are wild and silly statements.
You're seriously losing the plot with this. What a pathetic display of poor reading AND writing skills. You're seriously not worth any more of my time.
You literally responded to 3 cited examples with telling me that I write poorly lol.
You may have passed literature, but you sure failed rhetoric.
You're a pseud, and not worth me putting effort into any more of my writing.
This whole franchise is built on loose conjectures and thin themes. Keep filling-in-the-blanks like Sam Lake wants you to, though. You're certainly feeding him. And you totally know exactly what the Hiss is and why it's there, right? Something something Alan Wake at a typewriter?
Where? Where have I said that? Go on then, point me to it.
You completely lost the ability to comprehend the situation you're dealing with = you've lost the plot. This is no way related to the plot of Control. It's a saying. See what I mean about reading comprehension? It should be apparent even to you.
You absolutely do, this last comment of yours just solidifies that.
Yeah not responding to any of that further. You've dug your hole deep enough to ensure no one will take you seriously.
Right there buddy. You established that Control's story being about saving Dylan was "my take", implying your disagreement.
This is how most humans on Earth would respond to this. They wouldn't just assume you agree with them. Weirdo. Keep trying to flex "comprehension" though.
That is literally not what that comment said.
This neither insinuates that saving Dylan wasn't the plot point of Control nor does it insinuate I disagree with that - it's clear as day that what I've said was that Jesse was making light of the situation two dialogue options in after meeting Dylan which is literally true. The situation was inherently absurd, and Jesse was making light of it. Now whether you think this was a coping mechanism or just Jesse being funny is up to you, it was intended to be humorous.
I reckon middle schoolers can flex their reading comprehension on you - big time. Most humans on Earth don't need everything spelled out for them. Could I specify that I'm referring to 'your take on Control's very serious dialogue, conversations etc.' yes, but I shouldn't need to if I'm speaking to a capable person.
In other words - you've lost the plot.
Fin, no more comments from me.
Your interpretation of Jesse thinking her situation a meme and enjoying her new life as the director, speaks to your empathic abilities, social skills, and complete misunderstanding of redheads. So yeah we should stop here for sure.