FIX VSYNC!! :: Just Cause 3 Discusiones generales

Surx

23 DIC 2015 a las 3:09 a. m.

That's how VSync works. There's nothing to fix. If you can't maintain 60fps, VSync is going to make things messy. If you have an NVidia card, you can try turning off VSync in JC3 and forcing Adaptive VSync in the NVidia Control Panel.

Radeon cards might have an equivalent, I don't know.

#1

JackStillAlive tiene Just Cause 3

23 DIC 2015 a las 3:18 a. m.

Publicado originalmente por bah.Ripture:
That's how VSync works. There's nothing to fix. If you can't maintain 60fps, VSync is going to make things messy. If you have an NVidia card, you can try turning off VSync in JC3 and forcing Adaptive VSync in the NVidia Control Panel.

Radeon cards might have an equivalent, I don't know.

If this is how vsync works, then only this game got vsync right?
Research before you post bs...
Vsync should not cap the fps to half of your monitor's refresh rate if the fps goes down by 2-3fps bellow your refresh rate...
This is the 2nd game in my life(after 10yrs of gaming) that does this, not even Batman AK does this...

#2

MBinMD

23 DIC 2015 a las 3:42 a. m.

Publicado originalmente por JackStillAlive:
Publicado originalmente por bah.Ripture:
That's how VSync works. There's nothing to fix. If you can't maintain 60fps, VSync is going to make things messy. If you have an NVidia card, you can try turning off VSync in JC3 and forcing Adaptive VSync in the NVidia Control Panel.

Radeon cards might have an equivalent, I don't know.
If this is how vsync works, then only this game got vsync right?
Research before you post bs...
Vsync should not cap the fps to half of your monitor's refresh rate if the fps goes down by 2-3fps bellow your refresh rate...
This is the 2nd game in my life(after 10yrs of gaming) that does this, not even Batman AK does this...

http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_9.html

#3

JackStillAlive tiene Just Cause 3

23 DIC 2015 a las 3:47 a. m.

Publicado originalmente por Jumpy-B-L:
Publicado originalmente por JackStillAlive:
If this is how vsync works, then only this game got vsync right?
Research before you post bs...
Vsync should not cap the fps to half of your monitor's refresh rate if the fps goes down by 2-3fps bellow your refresh rate...
This is the 2nd game in my life(after 10yrs of gaming) that does this, not even Batman AK does this...

http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_9.html

You posted a link from a no-name site, while I know "some" about gaming, and graphics...
As I said again: During my 10+yrs of gaming only 2 games produced this issue, but cmon, post a link to an another noname site, filled with mostly bs.
Vsync locks the maximum fps of the game to your monitor's refresh rate, so it prevents screen tearing, wich is caused by having more fps than your monitor's refresh rate.

#4

MBinMD

23 DIC 2015 a las 3:50 a. m.

Publicado originalmente por JackStillAlive:
Publicado originalmente por Jumpy-B-L:

http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_9.html
You posted a link from a no-name site, while I know "some" about gaming, and graphics...
As I said again: During my 10+yrs of gaming only 2 games produced this issue, but cmon, post a link to an another noname site, filled with mostly bs.
Vsync locks the maximum fps of the game to your monitor's refresh rate, so it prevents screen tearing, wich is caused by having more fps than your monitor's refresh rate.

You are a buffoon who knows nothing. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

#5

JackStillAlive tiene Just Cause 3

23 DIC 2015 a las 3:56 a. m.

Publicado originalmente por Jumpy-B-L:
Publicado originalmente por JackStillAlive:
You posted a link from a no-name site, while I know "some" about gaming, and graphics...
As I said again: During my 10+yrs of gaming only 2 games produced this issue, but cmon, post a link to an another noname site, filled with mostly bs.
Vsync locks the maximum fps of the game to your monitor's refresh rate, so it prevents screen tearing, wich is caused by having more fps than your monitor's refresh rate.

You are a buffoon who knows nothing. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

And yet I am working as a PC engineer and helped lot of people to fix their PCs..
And also made some smalller mods, and also helped in the optimization of a indie game 3yrs ago...
Just accept it, you are trying to be smart, but you are not and you can't accept it.

#6

Oaty (Cam) tiene Just Cause 3

23 DIC 2015 a las 4:10 a. m.

^Tweakguides has been around for a long time, don't doubt the source of that. There's nowhere better to find information about graphical settings than on that site.

As for vsync, if it is not triple buffered then it will drop to 30fps when 60fps cannot be maintained. The problem here is that JC3 does not use triple buffered vysnc, so your only option is to enable it via the graphics control panel, or use adaptive.

http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_10.html

#7

JackStillAlive tiene Just Cause 3

23 DIC 2015 a las 4:31 a. m.

Publicado originalmente por OverTheBelow:
^Tweakguides has been around for a long time, don't doubt the source of that. There's nowhere better to find information about graphical settings than on that site.

As for vsync, if it is not triple buffered then it will drop to 30fps when 60fps cannot be maintained. The problem here is that JC3 does not use triple buffered vysnc, so your only option is to enable it via the graphics control panel, or use adaptive.

http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_10.html

Trpile-Buffer is enabled in Nvidia Control Panel by Global settings.
Should enabling it in custom porgram settings may help?

#8

Psymon²

23 DIC 2015 a las 4:37 a. m.

Publicado originalmente por JackStillAlive:
Vsync locks the maximum fps of the game to your monitor's refresh rate, so it prevents screen tearing, wich is caused by having more fps than your monitor's refresh rate.

Actually... no.
Vsync, Vertical sync. It synchronises the image with the screens refresh.
It is not about limiting the maximum refresh rate, that's just a side effect.
And that is exactly why you're seeing it jump between 60fps and 30fps.
If your computer doesn't render the frame in time, it has to draw the last frame again to wait for the sync.
If your computer can't meet that one, it'll snap down again, to 20fps, because that's a third of your screens refresh rate.

Also, tweak guide is a good website, maintained by one person.
nvidia paid him to write guides for a while.

#9

JackStillAlive tiene Just Cause 3

23 DIC 2015 a las 4:42 a. m.

Publicado originalmente por Psymon²:
Publicado originalmente por JackStillAlive:
Vsync locks the maximum fps of the game to your monitor's refresh rate, so it prevents screen tearing, wich is caused by having more fps than your monitor's refresh rate.
Actually... no.
Vsync, Vertical sync. It synchronises the image with the screens refresh.
It is not about limiting the maximum refresh rate, that's just a side effect.
And that is exactly why you're seeing it jump between 60fps and 30fps.
If your computer doesn't render the frame in time, it has to draw the last frame again to wait for the sync.
If your computer can't meet that one, it'll snap down again, to 20fps, because that's a third of your screens refresh rate.

Also, tweak guide is a good website, maintained by one person.
nvidia paid him to write guides for a while.

Well, yeah, you're right, but if the vsync is working properly then it should not limit the fps to half of the monitor's refresh rate, because for me it locks to 30fps even if the game goes to only 55fps, wich is going to happen due to the big explosions.
I do not have a potato PC(GTX 960 4GB ASUS Strix in OC Mode, i5 3470 3,4Ghz, 16GB Dual Channel RAM, W10 64bit), so it should run fine on High settings(if Batman AK can produce an average of 55, a minimum of 51, and a max of 60 on High settings) with smooth 60fps sometimes dropping to 50, but not 30.
Oh, and the gpu is new, I bought it 2days ago.

#10

Mepho

23 DIC 2015 a las 4:45 a. m.

Publicado originalmente por JackStillAlive:
Trpile-Buffer is enabled in Nvidia Control Panel by Global settings.
Should enabling it in custom porgram settings may help?

Publicado originalmente por JackStillAlive:
And yet I am working as a PC engineer and helped lot of people to fix their PCs..
And also made some smalller mods, and also helped in the optimization of a indie game 3yrs ago...

That's a weird question considering your credentials.

Btw I've never seen that site before, but there's no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in the link which was provided (the "9" one, not the latter. Didn't read that).

#11

Ramy_F

23 DIC 2015 a las 4:58 a. m.

JackStillAlive is right, this is the first game that I've played which locks down to 30 fps whenever the fps goes below 60. It definitely needs some modifying.

#12

JackStillAlive tiene Just Cause 3

23 DIC 2015 a las 4:59 a. m.

Publicado originalmente por Mepho:
Publicado originalmente por JackStillAlive:
Trpile-Buffer is enabled in Nvidia Control Panel by Global settings.
Should enabling it in custom porgram settings may help?
Publicado originalmente por JackStillAlive:
And yet I am working as a PC engineer and helped lot of people to fix their PCs..
And also made some smalller mods, and also helped in the optimization of a indie game 3yrs ago...
That's a weird question considering your credentials.

Btw I've never seen that site before, but there's no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in the link which was provided (the "9" one, not the latter. Didn't read that).

I am asking that because it is enabled in the control panel under the Global Settings, but I had some strange encouncters releated to Nvidia Control Panel's 3D Settings.
Like enabling FXAA under CoD 4's settings( a few months ago) enabled it globally.

#13

Zefar

23 DIC 2015 a las 5:15 a. m.

Publicado originalmente por bah.Ripture:
That's how VSync works. There's nothing to fix. If you can't maintain 60fps, VSync is going to make things messy. If you have an NVidia card, you can try turning off VSync in JC3 and forcing Adaptive VSync in the NVidia Control Panel.

Radeon cards might have an equivalent, I don't know.

That is not how Vsync works and have ever worked. All Vsync does is lock the Max FPS rate to 60 and remove screen tearing.

This game does it differently.

#14

MBinMD

23 DIC 2015 a las 5:34 a. m.

Publicado originalmente por Zefar:
Publicado originalmente por bah.Ripture:
That's how VSync works. There's nothing to fix. If you can't maintain 60fps, VSync is going to make things messy. If you have an NVidia card, you can try turning off VSync in JC3 and forcing Adaptive VSync in the NVidia Control Panel.

Radeon cards might have an equivalent, I don't know.

That is not how Vsync works and have ever worked. All Vsync does is lock the Max FPS rate to 60 and remove screen tearing.

This game does it differently.

Where do you come up with this stuff? It syncronizes your fps with your display's refresh rate. If you're unable to stay synchronized at 60hz it will drop to 30 in order to maintain sync. Triple buffering can mitigate this somewhat.

#15

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