Why are there no savegames in the demo?

[SwordsOfTheSouth_Toplitz]

Greetings Survivors!

We just wanted to inform everybody that the Demo version of Permafrost does NOT have a saving system or any way to save your progress. That means once you start and close the game, you cannot come back to that playthrough.

Your frustration concerning that is more than understandable and we will certainly include a proper saving system for the release of Permafrost. It’s just now that it would take too much time to implement, and we wanted to focus on delivering the best gameplay experience we can for you, so you can start exploring the frozen lands with your friends as soon as possible.

We are also reading through every piece of feedback that you’ve been leaving for these past few days, and we want to thank YOU for your contributions and helping us make Permafrost a better game for everyone.

That would be all - till the next one… if you survive in the cold…

[Skillshot]

Originally posted by amarkula:

Originally posted by SwordsOfTheSouth:

See this posting for more info.

I'll comment here, as I could not there. I dunno if its correct, but here I go.
Thanks for the clarification, as this info is needed before the game.
and btw, I'd vote against demo versions having save feature at all.

Having a demo is a great benefit for them who like to peek at the game and still get your feet wet instead of just watching pre-chosen trailers. and without investment. in my mind investment happens on the early access that leads into completing more than the full game experience.

However I would appreciate or recommend some kind of a cheat menu that would allow to balance the frustration when unseen bug-monster bites testers hard and even allowing to test game in more different ways. (items, teleport where ever, etc) However if it's place is in the demo, I don't know.

And if young ones ruin their gaming interest and enjoyment of game by over using cheats, that their growing up experience. :D

Thanks for the interesting day.

As you can see, I spent 27 hours in the demo and I did not get past the church. That is the amount of game breaking bugs that I encountered. There are sometimes people who have a bit of dev experience themselves and know where to look for stuff to go wrong. I don't even want to know the amount of times I restarted. But since the demo is for "a peek at the game" and "getting feet wet", I won't bother to post those bugs. You can find them in the early access and waif for a fix...

[RALPH]

Cant finish and test this game, it always crashing, sometimes after 15min, sometimes after 3h

[Biz]

I really like this game, but without saving your progress the demo is crap. Autosave or logg-off-save would be cool and absolut enough. Its not about investing lots of time in a game, but losing all the progress. Two times it crashed after changing gear (with no icon, but hey, cold proof ;/ )

So the biggest challenge is not only to survive, get food and keep warm, its about waiting for the next crash....
Now i keep jittery hold out for the AE. And of course i buy it!

[RALPH]

Originally posted by Biz:

I really like this game, but without saving your progress the demo is crap. Autosave or logg-off-save would be cool and absolut enough. Its not about investing lots of time in a game, but losing all the progress. Two times it crashed after changing gear (with no icon, but hey, cold proof ;/ )

So the biggest challenge is not only to survive, get food and keep warm, its about waiting for the next crash....
Now i keep jittery hold out for the AE. And of course i buy it!

Same !

[SaiMorphX]

Originally posted by RALPH:

Cant finish and test this game, it always crashing, sometimes after 15min, sometimes after 3h

This game has been running since yesterday morning. I haven't closed it so I don't lose my progress.

I came to bring up other bugs. but none that prevent the game from running. that has to be system related. I've even run other Next Fest demos over it, and it's still going.

I absolutely agree with everyone, it's a tiny little map, a sliver of the game. a save feature isn't going to hurt anything, I'd love to close this damn thing and see if that can fix my bug! because at this point, I can NOT finish the story missions without starting over, the game has a flaw that it can't recover from!

[Gardien]

Well at least you can try and have a taste of the game, if it tempt you then it's good.

[Saint]

So you wanted to get the best game play experience to players quickly for a demo but they can't save to come back to it. That's not a good game play experience. I was already past the House camp and moving to the bunker and got my first crash. Now I lost that and I'm not doing it again.

[Prexy]

This type of behaviour... again.
fatal gamedev L. I probably wont buy the game if I dont see an autosave feature for the demo soon.

[gpcstargate]

... A WASTE OF TIME ... without some type of Save system in the DEMO.

[timecom]

Zapisu nie ma ale imię pamięta :)

[rontonik]

Thx for demo. At least I checked that when you die you lose what you got. Not good.

[SwordsOfTheSouth_Toplitz]

Originally posted by rontonik:

Thx for demo. At least I checked that when you die you lose what you got. Not good.

You can pick up the backpack in the location you died.

[rontonik]

Originally posted by SwordsOfTheSouth:

Originally posted by rontonik:

Thx for demo. At least I checked that when you die you lose what you got. Not good.

You can pick up the backpack in the location you died.

I did not see that in a single game. Today I tried multiplayer alone. And there were deers which I did not see in single player either and I saw the sign to backpack.

Thx for reply. I hate this mechanic in games. This type of games is not for my taste. The items got broken too fast, chopped 3 trees, 2 rocks, broken. Freezing all the time even if you sit near the fire. Day-night circle terribly short. Deers run away, does not matter if you crouch or do not. They only can be killed if you shoot to the neck.

Personage needs eat and sleep constantly. Most of time I spent on chopping trees and rocks.

I made tribal pants but I did not get them. Supposedly picked them on workbench but they were not in inventory.

I reached to the mission My traders. Went there, too cold and died. Another main quest "Meet people ... ", escaped from bear and died again because was too cold. How suppose to do these quests ? Not sure if there was a way around to get to the traders. I gave up. Already was too tired of dying and chopping the trees.

I constructed the shelter. No way to enter fine through the door, jumping, jumping as rabbit at the entrance...well, finally got inside. The base foundation was not high of course. OMG.
You can not make campfire on the snow, you must make the base of wood first.
Also I thought that the dog will be the companion. But not, he does not follow. What the point then ? Just to use his backpack as storage ?

[fry]

Originally posted by rontonik:

Originally posted by SwordsOfTheSouth:

You can pick up the backpack in the location you died.

I did not see that in a single game. Today I tried multiplayer alone. And there were deers which I did not see in single player either and I saw the sign to backpack.

Thx for reply. I hate this mechanic in games. This type of games is not for my taste. The items got broken too fast, chopped 3 trees, 2 rocks, broken. Freezing all the time even if you sit near the fire. Day-night circle terribly short. Deers run away, does not matter if you crouch or do not. They only can be killed if you shoot to the neck.

Personage needs eat and sleep constantly. Most of time I spent on chopping trees and rocks.

I made tribal pants but I did not get them. Supposedly picked them on workbench but they were not in inventory.

I reached to the mission My traders. Went there, too cold and died. Another main quest "Meet people ... ", escaped from bear and died again because was too cold. How suppose to do these quests ? Not sure if there was a way around to get to the traders. I gave up. Already was too tired of dying and chopping the trees.

I constructed the shelter. No way to enter fine through the door, jumping, jumping as rabbit at the entrance...well, finally got inside. The base foundation was not high of course. OMG.
You can not make campfire on the snow, you must make the base of wood first.
Also I thought that the dog will be the companion. But not, he does not follow. What the point then ? Just to use his backpack as storage ?

I did exactly the same as you, but I didn't have any problems.
On the contrary, everything worked wonderfully.

I'm sure you were just too tired, as you wrote yourself.

About the game:
RSS are used up too quickly (wood in the fire), objects break too quickly.
The camera in buildings is very confusing.

Otherwise, great graphics and good gameplay.
Great, keep it up

Even though it's a demo, it's a real shame that there's no save point. :-(
I played it for 2 hours and won't continue playing now because i can't save.

[Ketchupking]

If I had known before starting the game that there was no way to save your progress, I wouldn't have invested a minute!
You write that you only had the choice of a demo without savegame or no demo. Really? No demo then - or is this decision a foretaste of bad development?
Don't get me wrong - I really liked the gameplay - but there is NOTHING to justify such a decision!

Maybe they will take the comments of potential customers seriously and allow saving in the demo?

Let's wait for the release... and hope for the best.