AI Skirmishes

[Mr More Dakka]

So I already know from records I've heard from the console version that Brutal Legend does have an 'AI practice mode.' However, to my knowledge that only allows for 1v1 matches. (Unless I'm mistaken >_> )

Any chance that'll be changed in the PC version? (Up to 4v4 offline matches/letting AI fill in empty-slots for LAN play?)

I know- I've also heard the AI isn't that good, but again- I'm emphasising LAN here. :P (I'm of course hoping the online play itself will be good as well)

So any changes on that front, or is my info on how Brutal Legend handles AI completely wrong? Cause I've heard its relatively limited. :(
(And/or am I completely off-base assuming this'll have LAN at all? :P )

[Son of Riggnarok]

on pc and consoles if you have 4 people in your lobby during AI you will fight 4 AI and there is no lan :C you might have to beg for it I want it XD

[Juke Nukem]

I don't know about them being ineffective, the Drowning Doom simply kicks my ass every-single-time, even on just normal difficulty settings... :) (And I don't suck that bad.)

[Sopp]

Very well said, Mr. More Dakka. It mirrors my own attitudes almost perfectly. I wrote a post on it in this thread:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/225260/discussions/0/846945411123962059/

I think one of the most mind-boggling aspects of this whole issue; is that from what I understand, you already have all the required elements in place.

The player(s) can have AI fill in for for absent players, meaning that you must already have a fully functioning AI for all different factions and maps, both in a one-on-one and a team-based environment. So then why in the blue Hell restrict the player from setting up a "Practice Mode"-match with a full set of AIs? It's just such a pointless, fundamentally nonsensical arbitrary restriction.

It just makes no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense, and I can't seem to wrap my head around it.

I mean; if you didn't already have an AI designed for multiplayer-play and couldn't be bothered to cook one up just for the "Practice Mode", I'd understand your point. I'd quite disagree and think it was a huge wasted potential and a damn shame, but I'd understand it. This just seems completely meaningless. You have the AI there, you just force me to only be able to play with several at once if I also have other players present. Why? Why?! Why would you possibly do that?! What exact reasoning were you working from? It's just a meaningless, repressive, nonsensical restriction that has no business being in the game to begin with.

Was designing the "Practice Mode"-menu UI to allow for this a really big task, for some reason? I'm not even really angry, I'm just completely bloody mystified and genuinely curious.

Please remove this arbitrary, meaningless restriction and allow for us to play "Practice Match" with a full compliment of AIs like we should have been able to do in the first place, seeing as you (apparently) already have all or most of the things needed in place.

Please.

Please.

[scarab123321]

Is there going to be some sort of matchmaking? Like me by myself wanting to join a 4v4 match without inviting 3 friends

[Eight Faced Wolf]

yes do this you silly fools dont gimp us to make the lems n cows feel valued.

[Sopp]

yes do this you silly fools dont gimp us to make the lems n cows feel valued.

True. I know it might sound offensively conspiracy-theorist, but part of me is almost tempted to fear it's a deliberate choice by DF in order to force single-player fans to play online if they want a good gameplay experience, by deliberately gimping them and giving them an inferior alternative although they have the means to give them something better. All to try and keep the multiplayer-servers populated.

In fairness, though, it doesn't exactly help that DFNathan has been... suspiciously absent from the thread in question after the suggestion was made.