Ursprünglich geschrieben von JediMaster:

I dunno, because programming takes time and estimating just how long it will take is like estimating what you will want for dinner 3 weeks from now?

Its called Project Management. They know exactly where they are and where they should be.

Being 6 months behind is a concern.

But i love DCS so much. BBBRRRRRRRRRTTTTT

Ursprünglich geschrieben von jalsina:

These WWII airplanes are not there, maybe due to a lack of suitable maps?
Unless they convert Caucasus to WWII, of course. But I understand this would be a complex task, due mostly to old tech used in that map.

There is a couple of planes in this game that doesn't have a suitable map for them. For example, MiG-15 and F-86F. There is even a campaign for F-86F about korean war Hunters over the Yalu that is made on Caucasus map. The map doesn't matter much. Even some regions of Normandy 1944 map can be used to simulate other regions of the world. Until there wasn't Syria map, some people were using the Persian gulf map to simulate the Syria environment.

Anyway, if there will be a propper plane, the map will come as well, but currently we have 2 US planes (P-51D and P-47D), 2 UK planes (Mosquito FB VI and Spitfire LF Mk. IX) and 3 german planes (Fw 190 A-8, Bf 109 K-4 Kurfürst and Fw 190 D-9 Dora). The only soviet plane I-16 is not in their category at all. So even in WW II environment, the soviet side have a huge disatvantage in this game. I can understand why Eagle dynamics can't create a modern Russian jet plane, but why they are not creating a high fidelity soviet proppeler planes? I guess that the info about them can be found in museums and archives and this info is not cassified. So why they are focusing on EU and US planes only?

I-16 by the way, don't have a propper map too, but I have seen videos on youtube where people flying it, some where flying over Caucasus, some where flying over Normandy 1944, so again, the map doesn't matter much.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sizigmund:

I'm not so interested in WW II planes. But I'm just curious. Why there is no planes like IL-2, MiG-1, LA-5, YAK-1, YAK-9, PE-2, IL-4? They are not classified anymore, but there is just an absence of soviet ground strike, bomber and fighters planes of WW II period. The only WW II soviet plane that is presented in this game is I-16. But this plane was very fast replaced by much modern planes after the first encounter with german planes.

There is US and EU WW II planes but no Soviet planes except of I-16. Not fair at all. I can understand why there is no Su-30SM, MiG-29SMT, MiG-29K, e.t.c. in this game. But why there is no soviet WW II planes is beyound my understanding.

One of the reasons why there are no WWII planes you mentioned is that nobody made them yet. DCS came to existence in 2008, since then passed full 13 years and ED released 7 WWII modules. With knowledge like that we could guess that developing another WWII module could take around 2 years (but usually more). Implementing everything you've just mentioned could take another ~13 years. Everything takes time and as a dev team you need to choose wisely on what to spend it.

Also, I-16 was made by 3rd party developer who's now seem to be working on La-7.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Quetzalkoatl:

One of the reasons why there are no WWII planes you mentioned is that nobody made them yet. DCS came to existence in 2008, since then passed full 13 years and ED released 7 WWII modules. With knowledge like that we could guess that developing another WWII module could take around 2 years (but usually more). Implementing everything you've just mentioned could take another ~13 years. Everything takes time and as a dev team you need to choose wisely on what to spend it.

Also, I-16 was made by 3rd party developer who's now seem to be working on La-7.

I understand that everything takes time, but there is no anouncements about soviet proppeler planes at all. Good to know that somebody working on La-7.

I want MW50 boost for FW-190 A-8.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sizigmund:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Quetzalkoatl:

One of the reasons why there are no WWII planes you mentioned is that nobody made them yet. DCS came to existence in 2008, since then passed full 13 years and ED released 7 WWII modules. With knowledge like that we could guess that developing another WWII module could take around 2 years (but usually more). Implementing everything you've just mentioned could take another ~13 years. Everything takes time and as a dev team you need to choose wisely on what to spend it.

Also, I-16 was made by 3rd party developer who's now seem to be working on La-7.

I understand that everything takes time, but there is no anouncements about soviet proppeler planes at all. Good to know that somebody working on La-7.

I mean, even for planes I personally am interested in, I scrounge the internet for any articles or forum updates. The F-4U Corsair and F-8 Crusader have been under dev from a 3rd party for the past at least 2-3 years, with ED recently including updates about just the Corsair. The F-4 Phantom has been speculated for the past 4, and we finally got an update. The Kiowa was supposed to launch last year, and we went a pretty good while before we were informed "why" when they didn't have to at all.

If you've been here long enough, you'll also remember that there wasn't a huge push for WWII until these past few years. It also makes sense since they started with modern aircraft, they continue to make modern aircraft. There are other sims that are WWII specific, but those WWII sims don't have a fraction of the systems offered in DCS. It's kind of cool that they would even put company time on WWII modules when they could be doing other cool stuff, like multithreading or getting in with Nvidia for that sweet sweet DLSS or RayTracing.

To pass the time, I'd recommend searching for mods of the aircraft you want. VSN has a bunch of stuff, but it won't be to the quality you're looking for. Maybe figure out the A-10 II, it probably flies just as fast. Or, if you wanna see how much time it would really take, try it yourself?

Sure, nobody wants to wait, but even the 3rd party devs who are completely separate teams, take years to bring a functioning module to Early Access. This is how the world works. You wait

Yeah! arma VIBE

why are these planes so exspensive ? i would love the game but i cant afford to pay 50-90 dollar for 1 plane or helicopter thats for rich people only so why is this ? i dont get it thanks

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GrumpyDumpy:

why are these planes so exspensive ? i would love the game but i cant afford to pay 50-90 dollar for 1 plane or helicopter thats for rich people only so why is this ? i dont get it thanks

Because each plane / helicopter in this game is a separate simulator game. Each plane / helicopter have a high in-depth simulation level that requires you to actually learn it like the real pilots do. Buying just a single plane will bring you a several years of gameplay until you learn and master it. So you are actually paying 50$ - 90$ for a 4+ years of gameplay. The base game is free and it have 2 planes and a pack of modern ground units. It also have a pack of all kind of AI planes that you can use as additional friendly groups or enemy groups, you can't fly them though, you can fly only the planes that you own. The base game also comes with 2 maps "Caucasus" and "Marianas". "Marianas" is a free DLC that you don't have to install if you don't want to. And of course you can fly in multiplayer.

If you want to try any high fidelity plane for free. Create an acoount on DCS site, download a standalone version of the game and you'll be able to try any module for free, during 14 days period. So you can actually check if this game is for you and if it is worth for you to buy these planes. But keep in mind, that this is not "Ace combat", "Warthunder", "World of warplanes", "ARMA3" or even "IL-2". The simulation level of military aircrafts in this game much higher than in any other game.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GrumpyDumpy:

why are these planes so exspensive ? i would love the game but i cant afford to pay 50-90 dollar for 1 plane or helicopter thats for rich people only so why is this ? i dont get it thanks

Actually it´s not only the modules. The entire sim is designed for people with money to spare. To play this game with "luxury" you need to spend money for a more than a fair rig, a great graphics card, an expensive HOTAS and the modules (maps, modules, campaigns).

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GrumpyDumpy:

why are these planes so exspensive ? i would love the game but i cant afford to pay 50-90 dollar for 1 plane or helicopter thats for rich people only so why is this ? i dont get it thanks

DCS World is free to use.

you get two free aircraft, and two free terrains.
The core of DCS is free, the editor, multiplayer, many missions, training and campaigns.

There are also free community mods made by talented community members that can be used.

DCS World also has paid content which are optional, modules, assets and campaigns.
You do not need to own them, but if you want to make a purchase and learn the indepth modules the option is there.

We feel for the time and effort we put into our work the prices are fair, we also have many sales, but if you do not have the spare cash you dont and should not spend it. Enjoy the free content.

Or switch to stand alone and take advantage of the free trials we offer.

Our trial system allows you evaluate all of our modules (aircraft and maps) for 14 days.

You can play each module sequentially for 14 days or any number of them at a time. Once you have ‘consumed’ the 14 days, you will be given another 14 day free trial period for all modules six months later. Enjoy the offer and please tell your friends!

Trial and 50% details here
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/faq/Discount/

access the free trial here
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/personal/licensing/trial/

Not available for steam sorry, you will need to use the stand alone version for this free trial

Link your steam account here
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/personal/profile/
Download standalone here
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/world/

Thanks
Bignewy
Associate producer
Eagle Dynamics

GrumpyDumpy as bignewy suggested, switch to the standalone version of the game and get a trial of a paid module, like the Harrier, F-18 or Ka-50, Mil helis. You will be mind blown at the level of simulation and fidelity of content in this game. It will become perfectly clear to you why the modules are as expensive as they are. And then again you can get stuff at pretty good discounts every now and then, so there is that, too.

OMG...f...ng

will there ever be wing canons for the 109?