Crashes on startup when i use EVE, FWE, and MMM mods together

[Anchor]

this gets very annoying and i really wanna use these mods to make my experience of fallout 3 to the best of my use.

[DZMaven]

Such crashes usually have to do with some kind of plugin conflict with the mods.
The easist method to check for conflict is use BOSS and have it sort your plugins. It should tell you which plugins needs to be activated as i know not all of them have to be for those mods. http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/10193/?

[Anchor]

Originally posted by DZMaven:

Such crashes usually have to do with some kind of plugin conflict with the mods.
The easist method to check for conflict is use BOSS and have it sort your plugins. It should tell you which plugins needs to be activated as i know not all of them have to be for those mods. http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/10193/?

I have Boss but still cant get it to work

[The Amish Heater]

I have this same problem, no fixes?

[BenWah]

The guide in the pinned thread teaches you how to get these working together well.

I can fix all your problems with these 3 mods!

1) Add all 3 mods as specified in my setup guide.
I have instructions for all 3!
Except I updated the installer for EVE so a hamster can do it now.
It used to be tricky.
Note there are special instructions for FWE if you are using NMM due to a bug with NMM!

Manually download: part 1,2 & hotfix.
Must turn these 3 archives into 1 Before adding & activating:
Extract all 3 into a new folder called Data, being careful with overwriting order (hotfix last).
Right click folder to create an archive from it, and add via NMM clicking "add mod from file".

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=149946772

2) activate the mods in your mod manager in this order:
FWE, [DarnUI, FWE support for DarnUI, Immersive HUD], MMM, EVE,
<All Other Mods>

(ignore the stuff about the UI mods if you aren't using them)
You can deactivate all mods and reactivate them in this order to be sure.

3) add the corresponding Blackened file. In this case you need the one for FWE-EVE-MMM.
And you're in luck! Blackened was just updated to version 2.0 only a few days ago!
What is blackened? Blackened is a special mod that resolves conflicts between FWE=EVE-MMM (& PB too)

4) use boss

5) done

If you're still stuck post your load order and maybe your mistake will be obvious

[Draescan]

I'm having a similar issue and for some reason despite spending quite a bit of time working on it, I'm unable to locate the issue. I'm POSITIVE it's staring me in the face and I'm fairly certain it has to do with MMM and/or EVE, however I need someone else to look at this as well. One of those, " can't see your own typo " sort of thing. Sorry the log is a BOSS log so my apologies there. Also please note this is not the order I placed them in, simply the order BOSS places them in which still results in a CTD.






Fallout3.esm Active
Anchorage.esm Active
ThePitt.esm Active
StreetLights.esm Active
Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.
BrokenSteel.esm Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Relev}}
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Zeta.esm Active
aHUD.esm Active
iHUD.esm Active
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AWorldOfPainFO3.esm Active
Advanced Recon Tech.esm Active
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Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, Invent, Sound, Scripts}}
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Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.Stats, Deflst, Delev, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Stats}}
Note: Suggested to remove the names tag if using MMM
Requires: CRAFT.esm
Requires: CALIBR.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm Version 2 Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Invent, Names, Relations, Scripts}}
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm Version 2.9.1 Active
Incompatible with: DCInteriors components.
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Detect Traps.esm Active
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RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp Active
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UPP - Beverage Perks.esp Active
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Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.Stats, Deflst, Delev, Destructible, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}
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Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}
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FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp Version 6.0+ Active
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp Version 6.0+
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Requires: CALIBR.esm
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Requires: FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
WeaponModKits.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData, Delev, Invent, Names, Relev}}
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Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Deflst, Relev, Names}}
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Requires: ThePitt.ESM
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Requires: BrokenSteel.ESM
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Requires: PointLookout.ESM
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Requires: Zeta.ESM
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Advanced Recon Gear.esp Active
Advanced Recon Tech.esp Active
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Echo_UseBothGloves.esp Active
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Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Graphics, Invent, Stats, Sound}}
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Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, Sound}}
EVE - FWE Master Release (pulse fix).esp
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Graphics, Invent, Stats, Stats}}
Requires: CALIBR.esm
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Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, Sound}}
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Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, Sound}}
RH_EVE_Bridge.esp Active
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Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Requires: Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
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Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Scripts}}
Requires: Anchorage.ESM
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Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Scripts}}
Requires: ThePitt.ESM
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Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Scripts}}
Requires: BrokenSteel.ESM
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Scripts}}
Requires: PointLookout.ESM
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Scripts}}
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Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp Active
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Invent, Relations, Scripts}}
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Requires: BrokenSteel.esm
Requires: FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp Version 2.72+ Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NPC.Race, NpcFaces, NoMerge}}
Action_Boy_hacking.esp
Easier_hacking_5_8.esp Active
Note: Choose only one of Easier_hacking_5_8.esp or Lucky_hacking_5.esp, not both
Lucky_hacking_5.esp
Note: Choose only one of Easier_hacking_5_8.esp or Lucky_hacking_5.esp, not both
F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp Active

[BenWah]

Your game is locking on start cause you're using the foip patch with EVE.

It even warns you against that in the description of the EVE download.
As well as the mod instructions in the guide posted above.
You should be using blackened instead of FOIP!!!

By adding the single Blackened plugin, you will be able to disable all these plugins:

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp
EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
EVE - FWE Master Release (pulse fix).esp
EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp Active
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp

I also recommend installing the updated Paradox version of RH Ironsights which I put up last month, by installing its single plugin you will be able to disable all of these:

RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp Active
RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp Active
RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp Active
RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp Active
RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp Active
RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp Active
RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp Active
RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp Active
RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp Active

There I just reduced your plugin count by 17, got your game working much better with blackened and stopped it from crashing LOL

[Jolland]

I have mine all working together fine. They didn't work until I installed the corrosponding blackened patches though.