why didnt the fallout series use russia?

[Eve]

i know its based off late 1950's- early 60's interpretation of a post apocalyptic future but im not entirely sure what was going on at the time. im not sure if it was the cold war era because i dont think china was THAT heavily involved. but why didnt they use russia? was it because russia was still a communist country at the time of the games development?
correct me if im wrong.

[Dadelus]

Go read about the process of collectivism (Agrarian Reform Law) and the Great Leap Forward that began in China shortly after the second world war. Then look at what was hapening in Asia (ie: the Korean War). China was a part of the great "Red Scare" that existed in the USA during the period and while everyone sort of focused on Russia, both China and Russia had huge armies and were doing things to increase their hold on large parts of the world.

FallOut seems to take the failure of collectivism in China (as well as other issues) and Russia as a reason why they attacked the western world (ie: there was the Resource Wars prior to the Great War in FallOut).

In FallOut the war involved China, Russia and a number of other countries, but China and Russia both were involved as aggressors.

[Incunabulum]

Dr.Killswitch の投稿を引用：

i know its based off late 1950's- early 60's interpretation of a post apocalyptic future but im not entirely sure what was going on at the time. im not sure if it was the cold war era because i dont think china was THAT heavily involved. but why didnt they use russia? was it because russia was still a communist country at the time of the games development?
correct me if im wrong.

Russia was not a communist state by the time *Fallout* came around (1997 - fall of the Soviet Union happened at the end of 1991) and the CIS (the SU's successor state) was not (and has not been) a serious geopolitical player for a long time by FO3's release.

But China is communist (officially, unofficially their some wierd hybrid of fascist cronyism) and was (and still is) making loud noises as the feel their way into the top of the second tier world powers list.

In addition, *currently* China is the 'yellow menace' du jour, since Japan's collapse in the '90's (after everyone spent the '80's wetting their pants over MITI) [as an aside, China's heading the same way - central planning of large economies simply does not work, as every centrally planned economy in existence is ♥♥♥♥♥].

So, Russia was yesterday's news, China's in today's headlines - make the American's antagonist Chinese instead of Russian, <sarc>brilliant masterstroke, literary genuis!</sarc>

[Incunabulum]

Though, thinking about it, you have to kinda wonder how the Chinese got to the *Eeast Ccoast* of the US in the first place without traveling from the west.

'Cause that implies moving a landing force through the Panama Canal (right smack inthe middle of the US's military sphere) or a Suez/Cape of Good Hope transit - with the attendent logistical difficulties of managing and supplying an invasion force capable of striking, literally, on the other side of the world from home during a time of major resource scarcity.

[House Middle Finger]

thye didn't use russians cuz enclave and brother hood have a war and why would russians be in D.C and legoins are farts

[Vyvyvn]

I forget which of the games touched on it, But wasn't Russia the first country nuked by both China and the US?

As to how a chinese force managed to infiltrate the eastern side of the continent, It's not too hard to imagine with all the books and guides you read about it, That the US was spread entirely too thin to deal with its own ♥♥♥♥ (Revolutionaries, Famines, Shortages, Misapporpriation of funds, Shadow government factions, The annexation of canada as a desparate ploy to reinforce that weak link of Alaska and for raw materials and food for their struggling nation. Well before the great war, The US was already groaning under its own weight.

[Eve]

スーパー・ビビン・クラックス の投稿を引用：

I forget which of the games touched on it, But wasn't Russia the first country nuked by both China and the US?

you mean in the game or in real life... i think the only country we've ever dropped a bomb on is japan unless theres some i dont know about

[Softspokenman]

its not that its Russia there was a war on communism in the US at that time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War
it was a propaganda war so worst stereotypes where used

[SXX]

For anyone who looking for an answer Scott Campbell (one of original Fallout developers) has answered this in The Origins of Fallout[www.nma-fallout.com].

We got nuked by China?

The nuclear Armageddon in the back-story was between the US and China. After shipping several people asked me why China and not the old standby, the Soviet Union. I made the choice when I remembered experiences with Oleg, a Moscow developer I worked with months before when I was assistant-producing a typing game. Once, in the middle of a phone conversation, I heard some muffled bangs, and the phone went quiet. When I asked him what the noise was, he replied, “Oh, it was just the Russian mob firing their guns in the street.” I thought he was joking – he wasn’t. After that, I had a really hard time believing that the once mighty USSR would be in a position to threaten the world any time soon. So I turned to the next major communist country that typifies “the East”: China.