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It sounds like more then just a simple CPU and GPU limitter fix. Random-Intermittant crashes could be caused be a few things.
1) Recent update to Windows 10 (Which is always fun, still better then XP)
2) Direct X access error
3) Mods conflicting with each other
4) Mod Loaders (as they sometimes over write the ini file)
5) Games for WIndows Live error
6) .NET/Visual C Runtime error
(1) Try using it in compatability mode (- Windows 7, uncheck the high DPI behaviour and let application do the work, if installed in default Program Files location, also try running as admin)
(2) Copy the DirectX DLL files to your game directory. As 64Bit registry access is different to 32Bit (Common knowledge these days). d3dx9_??.dll
(3) Try and see if it can organise your load order. Nexus Mod Manager has that option.
(4) Again, don't know to much outside of the possability of them doing so.
(5) Look for a xlive.dll replacer. Shouldn't get in to trouble as Fallout still needs Steam Client to run. Becareful though, as most of the site that say they have one, wont, and you'll need to make sure your anti virus software is on guard.
(6) Go to the game installed location, there should be a Redist (or such named) folder. There should be the runtime installs there. See which ones they are and download the updated version through the microsoft web site.
Fallout 3 is a good game, and it sad that Bethesda (or even steam) have not done anything to repack/wrap the .exe file to comply with Windows 10, and remove that dam dependecy of Xlive with is no longer active anymore.
** If using Windows 8/8.1 **
GFWL will install but not run. You'll need to install .Net Runtime 2.0 3.0 3.5 package from microsoft to get it to kick over. Yes, I know the native GFWL installer says its installing it, but it will miss required files during the installation.
** GFWL Disabler **
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/1086/
This will disable GFWL, don't use it myself, but may help others. Again, this will not bypass requiring Steam in order to play it. Who would want to anyway, you'll miss out on your achivements etc....
How didn't it work? All it does it put in place the blocks to stop the programme from going into infinity mode with the CPU and GPU. And writes out the INI files that sometimes don't get written when you go to launch through stream. And provides web links to Microsoft to download the latest possible downloadable version of GFWL, plus the .net 2.0 3.0 3.5 package that is required for Windows 8/8.1 users to kick over GFWL.
It doesn't have a xlive or steam client crack/wrapper. It is all done with the legal software. I have noticed myself, since the last update of Windows a couple of weeks ago. My other GFWL programmes have stopped functing correctly once installed again. I have spent some time surfing the net looking for the actual xlive last update (that you normal recieve when you have logged into your GFWL account the first time on Windows 8/10). But are unable to find it. It looks like Microsoft has taken down the links, and it can only be obtained through GFWL clien overlay updating process.
Including a xlive wrapper to bypass the GFWL will make my little application naughty. And since I use sourceforge to host my patch. It also goes against their rules as well.
Since there are a lot of people who like to steal other peoples information, Microsoft does actually have a legal and moral obligation to keep their current operating systems up to date with secruity fixs(patches). These would of course limit access to some defuncted services.
Also if you are running mods. Again, I have not included support for mods. It shouldn't need it. Unless your mod organise uses custom ini files for different mod and game setups. Then you need to make sure through the person(s) who wrote the mod manager that they are including the CPU and GPU limiter fix. They also may provide you with a location where you could obtain a xlive wrapper. But be aware xlive wrapper will be flagged as viruses through most antivirus software.
1 to add in the properties of all executable files:
Compatibility with XP SP3 \ W7 \ Vista
Run as Administrator
"Scaling by app"
2 Enable .Net 2.x 3.x and DirectPlay in Windows Components
3 Run the game (in fact - launcher) from the client(it install all addons from CommonRedist), configure the parameters
(W Compatibility Assistant will suggest DL and install Xlive for Win Store - ignore this BS, it useless)
4 start the game - it closes
5 run the utility, generate the ini file
6 start the game
7 PROFIT!
if you have two games F3 and NV, patch them separately - if you press both buttons, the second game will not be patched really(idk why) - you need to close the utility and the client, and repeat again for the second game
As far as I understood from the source code of the utility, it simply generates ini with "safe" parameters, allowing you to run the game
it would be nice if the author simply post the ini file template and the configuration instruction - especially for paranoids, since antiviruses are being warn against from time to time on the executable (I do not know, because of the packer, the lack of a valid certificate, or by behavior analyzer)
I have not had that issue with the programme, having to close it down and restart it to patch NV/FO3. I'll look into it. It doesn't add any "safe mode" parameters, just the ones to limit the CPU and GPU infinity bug that comes with processors with more then 4 cores, and GPU with the modern extras. It doesn't put into safe mode.
The parameters that it adds can be simply googled. Just google for CPU Infinity fix ini and follow the instructions. This simply just automates the process so you don't have to do it yourself. If you go looking at the code, you'll see that if the ini files already exist, it will scan to see if these lines are there, and if not it will add it. Otherwise it will not. It will not overwrite any pre-existing settings that maybe there already.
As per sourceforge agreement, there is no nasties in the programme. Yes, I understand it flags as weird by Windows. I've downloaded it a couple of times myself to use after I have done a clean install of my system.
Again, not tested for use with mods. There is a general GFWL error as of Jan/Feb with the new Windows 10 update, that cause GFWL to function incorrectly. This I can not fix. As I have advised other to source a xlive replacement. But be advised these can and probably will contain viruses.
Are you on meth? Seriously, you'd have to be on meth to not know how Sourceforge works. One, they don't have reviews, and two, no one one has a review for Sourceforge itself, because that's not how reviews work. :)
Also, are you on crack? You do know this thread is 3 years old, right? Do you even have the functional brain power to even understand how it would be literally impossible for someone in 3 years to not figure out if something was wrong?
You also have no excuse for not at least reading something, like I don't know, the first freaking page!
I mean, you have failed at all possible counts.
There is no possible way you could have dropped the ball this badly.
Thank you for the outstanding review. And if you bothered to pull your head out your a***. You would see that sourceforge does have reviews. You just have to be a member of sourceforge to leave a review. 3 years, yes I know its been that long. And, oh, not everyone system is the same. If you bothered to read some of the posts you would see that one person had their antivirus up which stopped it access the My Document section of the file system. You, know, that little setting that says protected files and folders. Or unless you are one of those people who like to go unprotected........
Again, thank you for your constructive feed back. We will review and get back you in due course. If you think you can do better then by all means go right ahead.
bUseThreadedAI=1
iNumHWThreads=2
Methought there were still some other parameters changing...
Or it will be full filled file, with all the parameters? i.e. take old file and edit or take template file from game folder, copy it to documents\games\%game%\ , check lines, run
It's just that the people panic by checking the program on VT: noname BS AV detect something - OMG! we are doomed! Boo! Runaway! :)) people do not know that half of the "detects" is just a message, about using the packer, and it means nothing
And most don't know that sourceforge change owner 2 year ago - old team embed adware in installers without authors's permissions - new team try restore confidence to sf
But reputation, such a thing, which is lost in a second, but restored for years.
https://meta.slashdot.org/story/16/01/29/0247219/slashdot-and-sourceforge-sold-now-under-new-management
https://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-acquisition-and-future-plans/
It would be best if Valve \ Bethethda added the appropriate functionality to install.vdf
I'm not a programmer, and I do not know the script language used by Valve - otherwise I would try to write the code and bombard the support of both companies so that they add this code...
Because it's not a service: pay for the game and look for third-party solutions - because the most pirated versions does not have this problem: download, click install - launch and play.
But I am on your side! I was quoting the guy who was insulting and mocking you.
Why are you mad at me?!
I'm sorry I didn't know reviews were a thing on Sourecforge, but again, I'm on your side!
I've been on your side since the beginning!
I'm sorry, I should have made sure things were better connected.
But I was just defending this program against that guy, GuyDodge.
I'm really sorry about all of this.
Gotta love when steam steps in, I was in a rush and was just checking my Accounts before I headed out the door.
I know my poor little programme is of fair age. And with the recent updates to Windows, fallout 3 and NV will fallover for some users.
Cheers for sticking up for my little programme
Didn't see the post, steam's automatic I guess. Sorry for the spray. Again I didn't see the post. My bad.
Again sorry Dude or dudette.
I'm glad everything got resolved though.
No worries, cheers. It would be good if Microsoft came to the table with their own xlive replacement. It's not like any of these old games have servers up anymore. And the ones that do have to have a 3rd party mod installed with a xlive wrapper anyway. Can't be too hard for them as they have been making xbox 360 games port over to the Xbox One. Even playstation is doing it lol.
Thanks again to you and everyone else that has stuck up for my little programme.