Modded FALLOUT 3 Crashing all of the time. Load order problem?

[DoyleDeth]

Hello, I have F3 GOTY edition. I use BOSS, FOMM and NMM. I use the NMC Maximum pack and the 4GB enabler. Here are my specs...

XFX Double D R9-280A-TDFD Radeon R9 280 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 VIDEO CARD
8GB DDR ram
AMD Phenom II x4 955 core processor ( Yes I use the INUM/Threaded) ini tweak
Game is installed on a 120 GB SSD

Here is my load order....

Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
iHUD.esm
CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
Project Beauty.esm
EVE.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
BetterGamePerformance.esp
DarNifiedUIF3.esp
Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
GNR Enhanced.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp
lessviewdistance.esp
Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.esp
FO3_WRP.esp
Flora Overhaul.esp
FogRemover.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I don't think it's the Texture pack ,because I experience no l;ag, only slightly when turning. Please give me some suggestions. Oh and also, my manual load order keeps changing. I have to redo it every time I use Boss.

[DoyleDeth]

Oh, I also use REALISM ENB.

[BenWah]

try disable fog remover and "better game performance"

[DoyleDeth]

I actually was crashing before I downloaded those mods. That's what made me get them. I may have solved it though. For DarnUI I totally forgot to edit the fonts section in the ini file. I did just that and I played for an hour earlier. Never played for that long recently. Any idea how to decrease mouse lag? I get it while turning. Most of the time it's slight, but annoying. In certain areas it can be heavy turn lag, like in Megaton.

[DoyleDeth]

Nope, just crashed again. GDI

[R5CYA]

if it was crashing before the mods, you need to go through the setup guide and fix it before adding mods.

[DoyleDeth]

It wasn't crashing before mods.

[R5CYA]

sorry. i misunderstood. didn't realize you only meant it crashing before adding the last two. you don't have too many mods. i'd go back and re-read the authors notes and make sure they are all compatible, first. while i was at it, i'd check dates and see which ones have been abandoned by the author and which are still being updated. i don't like old mods. they allways seem to give me troubles.
someone with more exp than me may come along and see something obviously wrong there, but i don't know. the guy who wrote the book on fo3 and how to fix it already had a look at it and he didn't say anything was obvious.

[DoyleDeth]

This is infuriating. I can get NV to work just fine with mods, but F3 has to be a huge pain in the as*.

[R5CYA]

Originally posted by Doyledeth:

This is infuriating. I can get NV to work just fine with mods, but F3 has to be a huge pain in the as*.

did you read the mod section of the setup guide? maybe there's something there that will help you.
i've had no problems with mods on this game as long as i follow the old rule. add one thing at a time and then test.
is that how you did it?

[[D]Mit.]

Create a merged patch with FO3 edit.
You have some big mods there so a merged patch can help with some potential problems.

Also mess around with this :
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/6769/?tab=3&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Ffallout3%2Fajax%2Fmodimages%2F%3Fuser%3D0%26id%3D6769

After changing certain settings i noticed a major FPS boost and a lot more stability.
For the mouse lag try this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdjRCEK9PSM

To ensure it's not a save game problem start a new game and play for 1-2 hours without stopping.

Get any patches you may need from here :
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/18173/?tab=2&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Ffallout3%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D18173&pUp=1

And last but not least check this out : http://www.tweakguides.com/Fallout3_10.html
Particularly the Memory part. ( in combination with the 1st link )

[BenWah]

A lot of the mods that remove lots of objects from the game (like "better game performance") conflict badly with other mods and can cause crashes. That's why I suggested disabling it.
I'm surprised it didn't help to disable it but it was a pretty good guess. Same possible issue with your fog remover....
I never heard of that view distance reducer either.

[Vigo the Carpathian]

Question: Why are you using FOMM and NMM?

[DoyleDeth]

I just use NMM for some texture mods. Thanks guys, I'll test all of this out tomorrow.