Is it really safe to eat?

[Hjelpmooglene]

So out of curiosity, I looked up on the USA emergency supply website. Some of the shelf life of food items in the game would only last 1-5 years. However, you never know how sterile the food would be after being irradiated. So what are your guys opinions on eating 200 year old food?

[WickedRequiem]

Well, there are some food that's safe to eat after 200 years (such as honey). But the stuff in FO3? I doubt it... unless it was made with SCIENCE! instead of real world technology.

[maninredagain]

Are the laser guns safe to work, too? We don't have any yet. Or maybe it's a science fiction part of the game that stuff like this (still) works.
Also, no it's not safe, it's irradiated already. But it's there, so it will be eaten.

[Incunabulum]

its not just about bacterial growth, components of the food will seperate out and coagulate/metamorph over time.

In the *real* world, most pre-packaged food - even irradated foods - would be inedible within a decade and nothing would be edible two centuries later.

Its one of the lore/store points that people have been complaining about, about Bethesda's Fallout.

its *marginally* acceptable that this stuff would be edible - because in FO they don't worry about long term effects of Science! - due to massive amounts of preservatives 80 years later and in FO2, you rarely see pre-war food, its mostly new stuff.

[Incunabulum]

maninredagain a écrit :

Are the laser guns safe to work, too? We don't have any yet. Or maybe it's a science fiction part of the game that stuff like this (still) works.
Also, no it's not safe, it's irradiated already. But it's there, so it will be eaten.

irradiated doesn't make it unsafe automatically - there's lots of foods that are irradiated as part of the preservation process.

But they're irradiated with *X-rays*.

Bomb radiation is some fraction neutrons and you have to worry about neutron activation in the food (and everything else in the affected zone).

OTOH - not all the food was subject to a nuke blast and its 200 years later so most of the highly radioactive isotopes would have decayed.

[maninredagain]

Well, the in-game food adds RAD to your RAD score which is considered to be harmful. That's what I tried to get at.

[A7Ranger]

There has been a topic similiar to this, but long unbumped (and probably deleted) for the rest of of its time, it shows that whether or not has bullets been expired to rust and rubble as well.

[Mr.Gibson]

SaveTheKupo a écrit :

So out of curiosity, I looked up on the USA emergency supply website. Some of the shelf life of food items in the game would only last 1-5 years. However, you never how sterile the food would be after being irradiated. So what are your guys opinions on eating 200 year old food?

If you die here is something everyone needs to know.
#BlameObama and #BlameObamaCare

[EolSunder]

My opinion on eating 200 year old VIDEO GAME food? perfectly fine and healthy, in fact they probably added video game preservation ingredients to make it extra tasty after 200 years, kinda of like fine wine that ages.

[Hjelpmooglene]

I created this topic to create discussion so that people could discuss things other than the game not working. So if there are any other topics you want to bring up, go right ahead.

Considering that the technology in the fallout universe is more advanced than ours, it would make sense if they had better food preservation. So I guess the answer is SCIENCE!

☣Aquillius☣ a écrit :

There has been a topic similiar to this, but long unbumped (and probably deleted) for the rest of of its time, it shows that whether or not has bullets been expired to rust and rubble as well.

You can actually make your own bullets, but that wouldn't explain why ammo is so numerous. Unless you have gunsmiths all over the place. The first thing that comes to mind is that they used nonreactive metals for the casing. As for the bullet itself, lead is pretty nonreactive but you never know with 200 years gone by.

maninredagain a écrit :

Well, the in-game food adds RAD to your RAD score which is considered to be harmful. That's what I tried to get at.

There's a theory out there that small amounts of radiation can help build the cell's defense against DNA damage. However it is still a theory and we still are unsure on the long term effects of radiation to the environment.

[KW17]

Actually, we are surrounded by all kinds of radiation 24/7, it's in our radios, the Sun, TVs, lightbulbs, and plenty of others. It's only when its in high amounts that it is actually dangerous. Without radiation, life on Earth would be physically impossible.

[Von Faustien]

Incunabulum a écrit :

its not just about bacterial growth, components of the food will seperate out and coagulate/metamorph over time.

In the *real* world, most pre-packaged food - even irradated foods - would be inedible within a decade and nothing would be edible two centuries later.

Its one of the lore/store points that people have been complaining about, about Bethesda's Fallout.

its *marginally* acceptable that this stuff would be edible - because in FO they don't worry about long term effects of Science! - due to massive amounts of preservatives 80 years later and in FO2, you rarely see pre-war food, its mostly new stuff.

right betesdas fallout because the old didnt have prewar food at all i must have imagined the chess puffs you could fead the giant hyper smart rat bent on world domination liveing under the geko reactor...

[Cyborgt]

These kinds of discussions in relation to the fallout universe are always kinda pointless. The entire point of the fallout universe is that none of it makes sense given what we know about the actual affect a nuclear apocalypse would have on the planet. It's all designed to be a stereotypical 50s view on what this kind of world might be with an amusingly dark twist in the form of the vaults.

People in the 50s almost certainly would have assumed that by the year 2077 (when everything goes to hell in the FO universe) we would effectively be able to perform any number of near magical feats through advanced technology. So yes, the answer to all these questions is always SCIENCE! That's the entire point of this universe.

[Daddy Shark]

The same scientific breakthrough that allows nuclear fusion reactions to be contained within a D-cell sized battery also had the nifty side-effect of locking food products into an unalterable quantum state while still in the wrapper.

[EolSunder]

or the nuclear fallout had a unpridicted and strange side effect of actually increasing the shelf life of food by having it irridiated by plutonium/uranium isotopes, causing the food to take into effect the same half-life duration as the affecting radiation, thus causing it to last for many many years even centuries as the same radioactive isotopes would last until their atoms stabilize.

So basically we get irridiated food that the actual radiation that effected it has the side effect of prolonging its edibility due to that exact same radiation.

ok im bored its really early haha

[Incunabulum]

jrr101 a écrit :

Incunabulum a écrit :

its not just about bacterial growth, components of the food will seperate out and coagulate/metamorph over time.

In the *real* world, most pre-packaged food - even irradated foods - would be inedible within a decade and nothing would be edible two centuries later.

Its one of the lore/store points that people have been complaining about, about Bethesda's Fallout.

its *marginally* acceptable that this stuff would be edible - because in FO they don't worry about long term effects of Science! - due to massive amounts of preservatives 80 years later and in FO2, you rarely see pre-war food, its mostly new stuff.

right betesdas fallout because the old didnt have prewar food at all i must have imagined the chess puffs you could fead the giant hyper smart rat bent on world domination liveing under the geko reactor...

Incunabulum a écrit :

. . . and in FO2, you rarely see pre-war food, its mostly new stuff.

Incunabulum a écrit :

. . . and in FO2, you rarely see pre-war food, its mostly new stuff.

Incunabulum a écrit :

. . . and in FO2, you rarely see pre-war food, its mostly new stuff.