Fallout 3 - Game of the Year Edition

Fallout 3 - Game of the Year Edition

Hazzerone 2015 年 10 月 14 日 下午 3:08
Framerate drops in the wasteland and choppy, non-fluid gameplay?
Hey guys,

Ever since Fallout 3 was released in 2008 I have not been able to enjoy this game. When I had it on PS3 the framerate was horrible and it was clearly so.

Now it's 2015 and here are my (important) system specs:

Windows 8.1
i5 4690k
Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X
2x1TB 7200RPM Seagate HDD in a RAID0 array (where the game is installed)
2x4GB RAM

I can get stable 60fps in Megaton...in buildings...in Vault 101...but as I go deeper into the wasteland if I look in certain directions my framerate will fall to like 39 (but this 39 does NOT feel smooth...all animations look and feel slow...the game generally feels choppy...and I simply cannot play a game which feels this way).

As far as mods installed and fixes I've tried here goes:

FOSE
Windows 7/8 fix.
.ini tweaks (iNumHWThreads and bUseThreadedAI)
Stutter Remover (including removing FPS cap entirely, trying to cap at 60, and trying to cap at 30 - capping at 30 works in the sense that I can maintain 30fps but the 30fps which is maintained does not feel fluid even though there are no framerate drops).
Unofficial FO3 Patch
Large Address Aware Enabler for FO3
Borderless Windowed Mode
Forcing on V-synch through AMD Catalyst Control Center
Downloaded K-Lite Codec pack
FOSE set to launch with admin rights
XP SP3 compatibility mode.

NMC Texture Pack (Performance Pack...although the EXACT same thing is happening even without any texture packs installed).

It's been 7 years since this game was released and I still can't maintain a stable 60fps at all times? Let's say this is an engine issue and not a hardware issue...how the HELL do people regard this game so highly if this is the case? Do they not FEEL this choppy gameplay? For me this game right now is like a 1/10. I can't stomach even 2 minutes of it in this current state!

I would really appreciate some help! Any ideas?
最後修改者:Hazzerone; 2015 年 10 月 14 日 下午 7:43
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Hazzerone 2015 年 10 月 15 日 下午 1:41 
EDIT: Figured out my own issue.
最後修改者:Hazzerone; 2015 年 10 月 15 日 下午 1:46
Hazzerone 2015 年 10 月 15 日 下午 3:45 
Failed at the first hurdle trying to optimize textures using DDSopt... does anyone here have experience in following the DDSopt guide?
最後修改者:Hazzerone; 2015 年 10 月 15 日 下午 4:14
Prpich25 2015 年 10 月 15 日 下午 6:00 
Well i hope you can get it to work.

I mean, hate to say it but...You're playing a game thats 7 years old. The game is just not optimized on a lot of levels for you. From your OS, to CPU and GPU/Grahpic's card.
Big Dumb Object 2015 年 10 月 15 日 下午 7:19 
引用自 Hazzerone
Failed at the first hurdle trying to optimize textures using DDSopt... does anyone here have experience in following the DDSopt guide?

DDSopt is really confusing to use. I don't know much about it--but I do know a little bit about the STEP guides. Are you using the batch files that are linked at the very top of the DDSopt guide?What issues are you having?

Are you otherwise having success running a stable FO3? I assume that, since you are on to texture optimization, you've had luck with the rest of the guide?
Belanos 2015 年 10 月 15 日 下午 7:30 
引用自 Hazzerone
Failed at the first hurdle trying to optimize textures using DDSopt... does anyone here have experience in following the DDSopt guide?

I wouldn't bother with optimizing textures if I were you. Any performance improvement, if any, is going to be so negligible that you'll probably not even notice it. It's really not worth wasting your time on.
Hazzerone 2015 年 10 月 16 日 上午 4:25 
Right. I'll ignore DDSopt for now then.

And no, DDSopt was literally the first program listed in the guide so I thought I'll get that sorted first.

Tried to follow the guide again and another instant crash when loading FO3/FOSE.

Back to uninstalling again.

I think the problem was with "Cleaning Bethesda ESMs" my files were main.bsas not .esms...

Here is my issue right now:

"Start Mod Organizer.
Select "FO3Edit" from the drop down above the right pane and click [Run].
Right-click inside the file listing and select "None".
Check the box adjacent to Anchorage.esm and click [OK]. Wait for the message "Background Loader: finished" to appear in the right pane.
Right-click Anchorage.esm and select "Apply Filter For Cleaning". Wait for the message "[Filtering Done]" to appear in the right pane.
Right-click Anchorage.esm and select "Remove Identical To Master Records". Wait for the message "[Removing Identical to Master records done]".
Right-click Anchorage.esm and select "Undelete and Disable References". Wait for the message "[Undeleting and Disabling References done]".
Click the [X] on the title bar to close FO3Edit.
Verify the box adjacent to Anchorage.esm is checked and also that "Backup Plugins" is checked then click [OK].
Repeat the process above for "BrokenSteel.esm", "PointLookout.esm", "ThePitt.esm", and "Zeta.esm". Selecting only one at a time. Do NOT attempt to clean Fallout3.esm itself.

Normally, when a file is cleaned through FO3Edit using Mod Organizer it is automatically moved back to its original mod folder and any generated files are moved to Mod Organizer Path\overwrite. In the case of the base Bethesda ESM files there is no source mod and so post cleaning the cleaned ESMs are left in the Fallout3/Data folder while the backups are moved to the overwrite folder. The cleaned files should be moved to their own mod folder to preserve a clean Fallout 3 GOTY\Data folder and the backups restored from the FO3Edit Backup folder in overwrite. To resolve this problem, perform the following:

Close Mod Organizer.
Navigate to Fallout 3 GOTY\Data and move the newly cleaned Bethesda ESM files"

Well here's what my FO3 GOTY\Data folder looks like after cleaning those ESMs: https://gyazo.com/360ab7ef031d23e846c104fb67f02b7e

Yep, all of my DLC .esms are gone and I only have Fallout3.esm remaining (this one wasn't cleaned).

Not having these 5 .esms for the DLC in my \Data folder is causing a crash on each launch.
最後修改者:Hazzerone; 2015 年 10 月 16 日 上午 5:22
Belanos 2015 年 10 月 16 日 上午 9:33 
引用自 Hazzerone
Right-click Anchorage.esm and select "Remove Identical To Master Records". Wait for the message "[Removing Identical to Master records done]".

No don't do this. I tried it once with Broken Steel and a number of things in the game got screwed up as a result. The only thing you should be selecting is "Undelete and Disable" not "Remove Identical to Master" That's fine with ordinary mods but it should not be done on the DLCs. And don't ever, ever clean the Fallout.esm file.

Cleaning your mods is a minor issue really, you normally don't have to bother with it. The importance of doing it has been way overblown as far as I'm concerned. I've played the game for years without ever bothering, and my games have always been more or less stable.
最後修改者:Belanos; 2015 年 10 月 16 日 上午 9:33
Hazzerone 2015 年 10 月 17 日 上午 3:14 
Alright well I've finally got this game running at a stable 60fps with no stutters or slowdowns at ANY point so far, although I have had a few crashes...

My solution was to stop following that guide, uninstall MO and all associated mods, fresh install FO3, install NMM and I got these mods for stability:

FOSE
Large Address Aware Enabler
One Tweak
Fallout Stutter Remover
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch
GFWL Disabler
New Vegas Anti-Crash (changed for use with FO3)
AutoAim Fix (not really for stability but you know...)

It's pretty much the same exact thing as I had in my previous installation with the choppy gameplay and framerate drops, but this time I haven't messed around with the .ini so much or installed Windows 7/8 fix. Maybe I really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ stuff up by following what some other people had said.
最後修改者:Hazzerone; 2015 年 10 月 17 日 上午 3:15
Belanos 2015 年 10 月 17 日 上午 9:08 
引用自 Hazzerone
Alright well I've finally got this game running at a stable 60fps with no stutters or slowdowns at ANY point so far, although I have had a few crashes...

The odd crash is to be expected with any Bethesda game, they aren't exactly rock solid to begin with. As long as you can get in a few hours before it happens you're doing fine. Fortunately in my latest set up, after installing Windows 10, I have yet to have the game crash on me even after several days of playing it. It's definitely a record for me.
Hypnomez 2015 年 10 月 17 日 下午 8:57 
I have the exact same problem. It's weird because it feels like a slow-motion drop. The FPS drops but it slows the whole game down. I actually tried to play it in 30fps (like on a console) to see if it would at least be playable and the game is unplayable: it feels like I'm playing in slow-motion all the time. What the heck?

So I can't cap the fps to 30, I can't run it in 60fps because it keeps dropping...

FX-8350
R9 270x
970a-g43
8gb ram
Windows 7

I really wanna play this game and I've been searching for a fix for a while and couldn't find anything... seems my Fallout Anthology wasn't that good of a deal.
White Rabbit 2015 年 10 月 18 日 上午 3:25 
Man what a lot of hassle! I have done none of that in win7x64 and the game runs fine with all settings on max, no framerate issues or crashes.
All i have done is this http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-1328904.html
I hope that helps 'cos the game is great.
Good luck

single R9290X, i7
Hazzerone 2015 年 10 月 18 日 上午 4:42 
引用自 White Rabbit
Man what a lot of hassle! I have done none of that in win7x64 and the game runs fine with all settings on max, no framerate issues or crashes.
All i have done is this http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-1328904.html
I hope that helps 'cos the game is great.
Good luck

single R9290X, i7

Yeh what a lot of hassle indeed!

Well now I'm running around with a flashy new adjustable UI, me and NPCs run 25% faster (I did not like the default running speed), my scope has no wobble when sniping (what a pain in the ass that is), My computer terminal minigames only show 1 word answers now (breaks so much immersion to save your game, fail, load game...etc...just to successfully complete a minigame), I've got craftable weapon and armour repair kits which repair by 25% upon use (recipe for weapon is 1 wrench, 1 wonder glue and 1 scrap metal, recipe for armour is 1 hammer, 1 wonder glue, 1 scrap metal), I've got weapon mod kits (can add laser sights...scopes...extended magazines...silencers to certain guns and these mods are found as random drops or by purchase from NPCs and then used by activating a workbench), I've got a follower XP fix (no longer competing with my companions to deal 40% of the damage to an enemy before receiving XP...something which was fixed in New Vegas anyway), and then I've got iron sights for guns which is quite simply awesome!

All of this while keeping a steady 60fps at all times with ultra settings and NMCs Performance Pack textures (a little increase over the Ultra gfx settings).

I wish I could say "it was worth the hassle" although to be honest it is absolutely ridiculous how much effort was put in to ensure this game runs smoothly. I've never had to mess around with a game so much to achieve a proper gameplay experience and it's mindblowing to me that this had to be done for a AAA game which was also Game of the Year.

At the end of it though I'm left with something which I appreciate: http://imgur.com/xcX03c4

Despite all of this though the game is still hilariously goofy in parts. Can we please take a moment to appreciate this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bRZ4SDEw88
最後修改者:Hazzerone; 2015 年 10 月 18 日 上午 5:20
Mr. Hamburgers 2022 年 12 月 2 日 上午 10:07 
Yo can you please tell me what the issue was? I'm having the same exact problem with frame drops
Yoda 2022 年 12 月 5 日 上午 6:50 
Try G 0 g their fallout 3 isn't as broken.
AJ 2022 年 12 月 6 日 上午 1:39 
引用自 Saint Jugs
Try G 0 g their fallout 3 isn't as broken.
You're replying to a 7 year old thread.
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