Fallout 3 - Game of the Year Edition

Fallout 3 - Game of the Year Edition

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xShapelessx Jan 5, 2016 @ 10:22am
Trying to mod my game to have Iron Sights - NOT WORKING
Ive spent the past 2 FREAKING hours attempting to get this simple ♥♥♥♥ing mod to work. I have followed ALL of the steps PERFECTLY, and it still does nothing. I get extra zoom, but no actual iron sights. Also, the textures of my gun are GONE, and its completely white/blue looking.

I have FOSE, I have that Archive thing, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS SO HARD.

Someone PLEASE help me I am beyond the point of irritated. I almost crushed my computer monitor. I have NO issues modding New Vegas, or any other of my games, including the Stalker series. So I'm not new to modding. This mod is just confusing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Last edited by xShapelessx; Jan 5, 2016 @ 10:22am
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There could be a possibility that the mod is affected by another.. But I wouldn't be able to know unless I knew what mods you had. Are you familiar with mods attempting to overwrite other mods?

If it is the case, all you have to do is figure out what mods it may be that are clashing, and perhaps alter the load order in your mod list so that the iron sights load after the other one that may be modifying weapons... Or remove the other mod.

That is probably the easy guess.. I hope you can figure it out :/
JtDarth Jan 5, 2016 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by KL Master Dan StormCats:
There could be a possibility that the mod is affected by another.. But I wouldn't be able to know unless I knew what mods you had. Are you familiar with mods attempting to overwrite other mods?

If it is the case, all you have to do is figure out what mods it may be that are clashing, and perhaps alter the load order in your mod list so that the iron sights load after the other one that may be modifying weapons... Or remove the other mod.

That is probably the easy guess.. I hope you can figure it out :/
It could also be that windows set his stuff to read only. Or that he should redownload RH-ironsights, to ensure that it wasn't a case of files getting corrupted during extraction.
It would truly help to know his load order/what other mods are in use as well. I can easily see something like one of the unofficial patches interfering.
xShapelessx Jan 5, 2016 @ 2:16pm 
I have no other mods. I literally installed this game with the intention of playing with iron sights. I uninstalled and deleted everything. I will try again...

Anyone have any good links to the exact downloads that were used and proven to be legit?

I just wanna follow the exact same steps someone else had. Im using windows 7 if that helps.
JtDarth Jan 5, 2016 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by Shapeless Abomination:
I have no other mods. I literally installed this game with the intention of playing with iron sights. I uninstalled and deleted everything. I will try again...

Anyone have any good links to the exact downloads that were used and proven to be legit?

I just wanna follow the exact same steps someone else had. Im using windows 7 if that helps.
Did you download directly from the nexus? what mod manager (if any) are you using? are you launching through FOSE_loader, or through steam?
xShapelessx Jan 5, 2016 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by DarthNachoz:
Originally posted by Shapeless Abomination:
I have no other mods. I literally installed this game with the intention of playing with iron sights. I uninstalled and deleted everything. I will try again...

Anyone have any good links to the exact downloads that were used and proven to be legit?

I just wanna follow the exact same steps someone else had. Im using windows 7 if that helps.
Did you download directly from the nexus? what mod manager (if any) are you using? are you launching through FOSE_loader, or through steam?

Im using Nexus mod manager and I got everything from NExus. The FOSE thing wasnt on NExus though so I had to get it from some website that the nexus page linked me to.
JtDarth Jan 5, 2016 @ 5:28pm 
Originally posted by Shapeless Abomination:
Originally posted by DarthNachoz:
Did you download directly from the nexus? what mod manager (if any) are you using? are you launching through FOSE_loader, or through steam?

Im using Nexus mod manager and I got everything from NExus. The FOSE thing wasnt on NExus though so I had to get it from some website that the nexus page linked me to.
Well, there is your problem. For the love of all that is holy, DO NOT use nexus mod manager for fallout 3, you are better off manually installing than trying to use NMM. If you have to use a mod manager (which you don't, if ironsights are all you want) than you would want to use FOMM(fallout mod manager). I'm pretty sure RHironsights doesn't have compatible format for automated install.
To install it properly, just extract the provided file (it probably requires 7-zip, which is an all around useful program anyway, as well as being a free program.), and then copy the data folder into your main fallout 3 directory (same one as where you copied FOSE to). Overwrite where asked, make sure the .esm and .esps associated with RHironsights are active, launch through the FOSE_loader and you should be good to go.
first you should tell us what mods you are using then we can help you find a problem

RH ironsight is easy to install especially with the help of Nexus mod manager
Originally posted by Shapeless Abomination:
Originally posted by DarthNachoz:
Did you download directly from the nexus? what mod manager (if any) are you using? are you launching through FOSE_loader, or through steam?

Im using Nexus mod manager and I got everything from NExus. The FOSE thing wasnt on NExus though so I had to get it from some website that the nexus page linked me to.


Oh there's your problems, launch the game with the FOSE launcher, not the icon in steam, in fact, add a non steam game and point it to that fose launcher if you want the steam overlay

if it still did not work, name the mods you are using, Mod conflict is a major problem
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JtDarth Jan 5, 2016 @ 5:58pm 
Originally posted by VN Michael Doan:
first you should tell us what mods you are using then we can help you find a problem

RH ironsight is easy to install especially with the help of Nexus mod manager

Originally posted by VN Michael Doan:
Originally posted by Shapeless Abomination:

Im using Nexus mod manager and I got everything from NExus. The FOSE thing wasnt on NExus though so I had to get it from some website that the nexus page linked me to.


Oh there's your problems, launch the game with the FOSE launcher, not the icon in steam, in fact, add a non steam game and point it to that fose launcher if you want the steam overlay

if it still did not work, name the mods you are using, Mod conflict is a major problem
I really hate it when people post in threads both without bothering to read them, and spreading lies like nexus mod manager being easy to use with fallout 3.
NMM is still incredibly unreliable when it comes to bethesda games other than skyrim, with some users having it work fine, and others having it completely bork the install, or just otherwise not work.
If you look a little earlier in thread, you'll see he already said he ONLY installed FOSE and RH_ironsights (which was apparently through nexus mod manager, which may be his entire problem, since he mentioned having no problems modding other games, including new vegas), as well as that I already mentioned making sure it's launching through FOSE and not steam.

xShapelessx Jan 5, 2016 @ 7:54pm 
Hmmm...I actually did not know I had to launch the game through FOSE. Thanks for the tips guys, I'll try that tomorrow morning and get back to the thread with the results. Until then I'm going to play the flawlessly running New Vegas in all of its modded glory.
It will say in the mod description how to run the game.

If you are going to mod a game, you MUST read the notes included in the mod's description- for ANY mod. The mod will indeed state how you will need to run the game, you'll be alright. I used that mod too by the way. I find games today need un-consolitis-retarding, so it's mods like this that I use.

If you are going to decide to install a modification program to your game it is wise to google for reviews and/or if possible, tutorials, on youtube, mostly, to get as much info as you can on that mod and how to use it, but more importantly, to see if anyone else can offer advice. Please please please continue with confidence, but with a little more common sense in future.

There can be people in the Steam community who may have advice also, but you will tend to annoy us if you didn't read anything beforehand.

Peace.
JtDarth Jan 6, 2016 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by KL Master Dan StormCats:
It will say in the mod description how to run the game.

If you are going to mod a game, you MUST read the notes included in the mod's description- for ANY mod. The mod will indeed state how you will need to run the game, you'll be alright. I used that mod too by the way. I find games today need un-consolitis-retarding, so it's mods like this that I use.

If you are going to decide to install a modification program to your game it is wise to google for reviews and/or if possible, tutorials, on youtube, mostly, to get as much info as you can on that mod and how to use it, but more importantly, to see if anyone else can offer advice. Please please please continue with confidence, but with a little more common sense in future.

There can be people in the Steam community who may have advice also, but you will tend to annoy us if you didn't read anything beforehand.

Peace.
Hey look, another person who posts without even reading the thread, or the OP for that matter. This isn't the OP's first rodeo, he's apparently modded new vegas without issues, and even things like stalker, which depending on the mod, can be insanely complicated to install properly.

That aside, you don't actaully need to read the readme for every mod for a bethesda game, as the majority say essentially the same things. Common sense and deductive skills are more than enough to point out that a mod may be causing conflict, and even what mod it's conflicting with.

Also, RH_ironsights being anti-consolitis? where on earth do you get that idea? Ironsights aren't in the game by default because bethesda decided not to put them in, not because the consoles couldnt handle it. Many of the great games of old didn't have ironsights. Doom, Quake, UT, Turok, Rainbow six 1 2 and 3, at least on pc didn't, even CS/CSGO doesn't have irons. The first few call of duty games had them, but they weren't actually necessary to complete the game, you could simply go around firing from the hip.
Originally posted by DarthNachoz:
Hey look, another person who posts without even reading the thread, or the OP for that matter. you don't actaully need to read the readme for every mod for a bethesda game, as the majority say essentially the same things. Common sense and deductive skills are more than enough <snip>

Unfortunately, you forgot to read the discussion, Darth. I started it. :steamfacepalm:
Try to read my post again regarding the mod. You have misunderstood what I said.

Oh, and;
To those new to modding/about to install another mod: Before installing a mod, ALWAYS read the description.
Last edited by 𝕊𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄-𝕂𝔸𝕋; Jan 6, 2016 @ 8:09am
xShapelessx Jan 6, 2016 @ 7:32am 
Yeah, i definitely read the description in detail. I'm really not new to this. I'm having problems, because this mod is insanely complicated for some reason. Ill try and re install today when I regain the patience lol.
Originally posted by Shapeless Abomination:
Yeah, i definitely read the description in detail. I'm really not new to this. I'm having problems, because this mod is insanely complicated for some reason. Ill try and re install today when I regain the patience lol.

Don't worry, no one is questioning your competence.. I have a funny feeling that you will figure it out. I, myself would come up against a dead end and once I re-traced my steps, I always found that I had missed something, or discovered an issue with the mods in the load order.

It happens mostly when installing manually. Typically, the mod will be at the end of the load order, and this, too must be managed with the list.
*Whatever appears after in the list overwrites any identical files in the previous mod, as you may know <wink>

The iron sights mod requires all the DLC. I wonder if this is causing a problem for you?

Gopher has been a very helpful member of the gaming community, for many games now. It is always a good idea to check out anything he posts about the mods he covers. Check out the iron sights review he made here. There is an installation tutorial within :)

Oh, I believe this is a part2 to the previous tutorial: sorry, it was same one lol.

I agree, it is very complicated, because a lot of mods include modifications to weapons and they themselves need to have certain files overwritten/deleted for your overall result to work. It's a simple case of load order, (the order in how your mods execute the over-writing of files),
and just follow Gopher's directions carefully. Maybe you have done already and I too have made mistakes or forgotten to do something in the past. Just re trace your modding steps and best of luck!
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