Is Fallout 3 the best Fallout game?

[woody]

In my opinion, I think it is. The world and atmosphere are so good, and the side quests are fun but the main story and combat could've been better. I am interested to know what Fallout game everyone else thinks is the best.

[Kyrth]

I enjoy fallout 1 and new vegas the most.

Since fallout 2 appears to be a way more detailed & content packed upgrade to fallout 1, that's probably your best bet.

[Kick_McCan]

IMO FO3 is the best of the bethesda fallouts, tied closely with NV. It's a sandbox where the game really couldn't care less if you follow the main story or not. In fact after all this time I'm not sure what the FO3 story actually is. NV scores slightly less because the story has some pants on head idiotic elements (you got shot in the head but are perfectly fine wtf) and caesar/ncr are both unappealing (leaving house as the best option). F04 has a dorky story which is difficult to ignore as the game really wants you to pursue it, and introduces crafting which I'm not sure who, among the legions of fans that have played the games, was asking for. Sure crafting/building makes a certain sense from a gameplay perspective but makes no sense in terms of the classic fallout universe which is about wandering and having adventures.

[Včelí medvídek]

引用自 Kick_McCann：

I in terms of the classic fallout universe which is about wandering and having adventures.

In terms of exploring and enjoying the world FO4 beats all its predecessors by miles and offer best Fallout experience - in particular in combination with Survival mode.

And as in all Bethesda games the main story is total crap you can pretty much ignore form beginning (or proceed toward BOS arrival to unlock access to all factions and companions)

[Kick_McCan]

引用自 Včelí medvídek：

引用自 Kick_McCann：

I in terms of the classic fallout universe which is about wandering and having adventures.

In terms of exploring and enjoying the world FO4 beats all its predecessors by miles and offer best Fallout experience - in particular in combination with Survival mode.

And as in all Bethesda games the main story is total crap you can pretty much ignore form beginning (or proceed toward BOS arrival to unlock access to all factions and companions)

Agree with your point re the main story of the bethesda fallouts. Ref your first point, I've thought a lot about this. The city environments are great but for some reason the whole package fails to grab me. Not sure why that is, but I think I've only ever managed to get 100+ hours out of FO4 before I lose interest. I keep reinstalling and trying again but the story is annoying, the crafting is annoying (everyone is sitting around waiting for *you* to do it), the early escort quest is a slog, at diamond city the game reaaaaaaly wants you to go talk to nick about the main quest......etc......

[Včelí medvídek]

引用自 Kick_McCann：

引用自 Včelí medvídek：

In terms of exploring and enjoying the world FO4 beats all its predecessors by miles and offer best Fallout experience - in particular in combination with Survival mode.

And as in all Bethesda games the main story is total crap you can pretty much ignore form beginning (or proceed toward BOS arrival to unlock access to all factions and companions)

Agree with your point re the main story of the bethesda fallouts. Ref your first point, I've thought a lot about this. The city environments are great but for some reason the whole package fails to grab me. Not sure why that is, but I think I've only ever managed to get 100+ hours out of FO4 before I lose interest. I keep reinstalling and trying again but the story is annoying, the crafting is annoying (everyone is sitting around waiting for *you* to do it), the early escort quest is a slog, at diamond city the game reaaaaaaly wants you to go talk to nick about the main quest......etc......

Try survival mode - than you focus on making your personal story that involve secure new perimeters and beds, you set you personal targets for the day (like explore this small area, secure new route..). Absence of fast travel change the experience a lot too, encourage you explore the land properly and find all that small but very well done details (like found abandoned shopping bin or meat by fire is excellent and satisfying when you need this.. same as spot with sleeping bag for mark new savespot). Or jsut enjhoy desperate run through city building looking for antibiotics with infection killing you.- Some year or two ago I have added "Damn apocalypse" mod that empower all aspects of Survival mode (in particular make all loot much more scarce, ammo is rare and radiation deadly... you learn to fear of random radiation rains and need to know land for seek the cover..). I played all Fallout games and in particular 1+2 many times but no match the time and world experience FO4 has and I sunk over 2k hours there..

You really dont need follow the main quest at all, I often end it at Museum until I decide what I want do in particular game. Suprisingly game is ready for this and trying either prevent you to screw the line or even offer new experience (eg. if you viisit Memory Den prior Nick and Kellrog you ahve completely unique quest and memory experience of your own)


As for the settlement building I like this part too - but (/beside building own vault) I like just use some presets instead do everything myself piece by piece. There are good mods for that (even Damn apocalypse has it) - Sim settlements raise it to completely new level too where settlements grow independently if you wish to..

And as far as the main story "quality" - this pays for most Beth. games as far as I am concerned - only I liked was Morrowind (but not even sure why.. what I still remember though how I progressed through ranks of Noble houses and made grown up Telvanni tower stronghold..:p

[Coalheart]

Fo3 is my favorite, but then again, I love Morrowind, Gothic 3 and Deus Ex: Invisible War. (meaning that I tend to love the games that most think are the weakest in a series).

[Kuma]

引用自 ureaditwrong：

引用自 Bodean Abernathy II：

This has to be bait. Everything you said is an opinion EXCEPT for it being the most broken. That goes to fallout 76 since it's beginning no ifs ands or buts about it.

well I guess if we're counting the spinoffs, yeah F3 doesn't seem so bad. But F3 still has nothing on FNV, F4 or the interplay games.

And F3 is indeed even more broken than 76. It doesn't even RUN without mods these days, and to make it playable. I'd say you need at least 7 more mods and even then, there will STILL be game breaking bugs like NPCs disappearing, requiring the use of console commands. It's kinda hilarious how broken F3 actually is.

I'm literally doing a fallout 3 unmodded run and haven't run into any glitches or crashes all the way up to rivet city.

mind, I'm doing a new vegas run as well, and definitely think New Vegas is by far the better game.

But the games run perfectly fine.

[-={LG}=-]

I think it was the best just based on the quality of the storyline ... plus the character creation sequence was inspired, but it's grown pretty old now so it's hard to replay it. Too primitive compared to Fallout 4.

[hatta]

Fallout 3 is by far the best Fallout game.
And in general the best computer game from "Bethesda Softworks", their peak in terms of craftsmanship.

Point:
Still timeless and great today.

I played F3 in year 2022 for the first time, and I think it's better than for example, Red Dead Redemption 2 (2018) or The Last of Us Part 2 (2020), etc. because I love this retro (quake engine -esque, such as: Gothic2, Shadow Man, half-Life 1)
F3 doesn't need a remaster (just a patch for the inventory).
F3 you want to enjoy 16 hours of flow all day long.

Fallout New Vegas I don't want to play today without a remake.

Fallout4 needs a remake-reboot in all aspects: story, graphics, gameplay, user interface, etc.

Point:
Is a legacy and a serious and working end result.

I had nightmares after a 16 hour season.
The motivation of the raiders can also be found in the anime Cyberpunk Edgerunners.

Fallout4 is cozy and ridiculous.
The Gothic genre is cozy and horror at the same time.
F4 is ridiculously cozy though, so needs a remake reboot, isn't a legacy, just an editor for Starfield.

Point:
All criticism is ridiculous and embarrassing.

See Video:
so the example: 3-33 "the map is completely inaccurate, all the real world locations are completely inaccurate"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltS9g1NvNys&ab_channel=DegenerateJay
The map in F3 is something like the games "Gameboy Pokemon Yellow", or Gothic2. So you want to have seen everything, you want to have played through everything 100%. You go to the forum at the end to clarify whether you have overlooked anything.

In Fallout4 I find the map completely uninteresting. A remake reboot can also make the map completely different, making vehicles possible, or allowing gameplay like Days Gone.
F3 is for pedestrian walker wanderer = art design.
F4 is for car bike drivers and Capricorns or horses = real world accurate (But don't compare with: Liberty City GTA 4, Los Santos GTA5).

In New Vegas the map doesn't work for me at all. without remake reboot the walking is a red flag for me. In New Vegas the map feels like a mincraft world desert biome only, flat biome only.

BUT:
I accept if someone doesn't find F3 the most interesting Fallout thematically.
Fallout1 and New Vegas have better themes, at least I saw them in the Lets Play and "Lore Core Videos" at:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqrlZQ40f79yogeO9xT7abkplpML_O7OI

[NightmareGats]

引用自 totto：

Wall of nonsense

Just imagine, having a brain that thinks like this person lmao
I cant even find any logic in your thoughts
Asking for reboots, remakes for FNV and FO4, but FO3 doesnt need one. Asking for working vehicles in Fallout world.

Bugthesda best game was TES IV and still remains the best, peak bugthesda.
Comparing FO3 to TLOU 2 lol
What a ♥♥♥♥ taste you have, the funniest part is the "cant play game cause no reboot/remake" lmao
your reviews must be so funny, i wonder how fun theyd be in english. Must be full of nonsense.

[Graceful Jabberwocky]

引用自 totto：

Fallout 3 is by far the best Fallout game.
And in general the best computer game from "Bethesda Softworks", their peak in terms of craftsmanship.

Point:
Still timeless and great today.

I played F3 in year 2022 for the first time, and I think it's better than for example, Red Dead Redemption 2 (2018) or The Last of Us Part 2 (2020), etc. because I love this retro (quake engine -esque, such as: Gothic2, Shadow Man, half-Life 1)
F3 doesn't need a remaster (just a patch for the inventory).
F3 you want to enjoy 16 hours of flow all day long.

Fallout New Vegas I don't want to play today without a remake.

Fallout4 needs a remake-reboot in all aspects: story, graphics, gameplay, user interface, etc.

Point:
Is a legacy and a serious and working end result.

I had nightmares after a 16 hour season.
The motivation of the raiders can also be found in the anime Cyberpunk Edgerunners.

Fallout4 is cozy and ridiculous.
The Gothic genre is cozy and horror at the same time.
F4 is ridiculously cozy though, so needs a remake reboot, isn't a legacy, just an editor for Starfield.

Point:
All criticism is ridiculous and embarrassing.

See Video:
so the example: 3-33 "the map is completely inaccurate, all the real world locations are completely inaccurate"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltS9g1NvNys&ab_channel=DegenerateJay
The map in F3 is something like the games "Gameboy Pokemon Yellow", or Gothic2. So you want to have seen everything, you want to have played through everything 100%. You go to the forum at the end to clarify whether you have overlooked anything.

In Fallout4 I find the map completely uninteresting. A remake reboot can also make the map completely different, making vehicles possible, or allowing gameplay like Days Gone.
F3 is for pedestrian walker wanderer = art design.
F4 is for car bike drivers and Capricorns or horses = real world accurate (But don't compare with: Liberty City GTA 4, Los Santos GTA5).

In New Vegas the map doesn't work for me at all. without remake reboot the walking is a red flag for me. In New Vegas the map feels like a mincraft world desert biome only, flat biome only.

BUT:
I accept if someone doesn't find F3 the most interesting Fallout thematically.
Fallout1 and New Vegas have better themes, at least I saw them in the Lets Play and "Lore Core Videos" at:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqrlZQ40f79yogeO9xT7abkplpML_O7OI

[grepScotch]

its a matter of taste. I find the fallout 3 story and the layout of the map to be the best of all the fallout games.

[hatta]

引用自 NightmareGats：

Just imagine, having a brain that thinks like this person lmao
I cant even find any logic in your thoughts
What a ♥♥♥♥ taste you have.

Sorry I disregarded STEAM.
yes, the "best" way to play video games is:
"Brain interfaces instead of VIRTUAL REALITY: Valve's Gabe Newell believes games will one day read emotions"
And with Source Engine 2 we can then play "Black Mesa" with IT
IT in South Park - Season 5, Ep. 11 - The Entity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGKR1Z1lRik&ab_channel=vuduegg

Half Life 3 will never appear like Half Life 1, as an announcement: Valve can make computer games.
Half Life 3 will never be like Half Life 1, a game of the Quake Engine -esque retro genre.

引用自 NightmareGats：

your reviews must be so funny, i wonder how fun theyd be in english. Must be full of nonsense.

I will never review games like Fallout3, Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver 1, Gothic 2, Total War Shogun 2, Days Gone, Minecraft, ...
Because I've played these games for more than 500 hours, and discussed them in community forums for the same amount of time, they worked for me as a drug that I'm overwhelmed to do an objective review.

[Niall]

Fallout 1 and 2 are turn based. No thanks garbage boring game play. I'm sure it is fun for some. Fallout 3 is my fav too. The quests and atmosphere are great. I'm playing it again on an APU and it runs great.

[SpartanBR300]

Well, it is the one that I play the most.
Point of Lookout is one of the best Fallout DLCs ever.
The mood of FO3 is just phenomenal and exploring those underground tunnels was an unforgetable experience.