Why doesn’t 3 have achievements?

[Richard I]

Not that it matters too much, but does make being a completionist a little more satisfying.

[NightmareGats]

imagine caring about worthless achievements

[Richard I]

Originally posted by NightmareGats:

imagine caring about worthless achievements

People enjoy games differently man.
On some games I like hunting down every achievement possible after I finish the story. Fallout is one of them.

[Darkside Hamster]

Originally posted by NightmareGats:

imagine caring about worthless achievements

Imagine thinking he cares about your disdain, anonymous internet person.

Originally posted by Farmer Ted's:

Not that it matters too much, but does make being a completionist a little more satisfying.

It's weird, because I own the Xbox 360 version and that has achievements. Usually the steam ones mirror the console achievements. I'm kind of surprised, myself.

[Vex Hilarius]

There's way more things to do in this game to be a completionist. The achievements just scratch the surface.

Bethesda took nearly a decade to patch out GFWL which is just like 1-2 lines of code. Expect achievements in 2035 the earliest.

[Unseen]

Originally posted by Darkside Hamster:

Originally posted by NightmareGats:

imagine caring about worthless achievements

Imagine thinking he cares about your disdain, anonymous internet person.

Originally posted by Farmer Ted's:

Not that it matters too much, but does make being a completionist a little more satisfying.

It's weird, because I own the Xbox 360 version and that has achievements. Usually the steam ones mirror the console achievements. I'm kind of surprised, myself.

PS3 also had trophies and they were fun.

Originally posted by NightmareGats:

imagine caring about worthless achievements

I do, offers fun gameplay objectives and give you goals to shoot for, no one cares if you unlock an achievement, its something people just like doing. Its like a badge it means nothing to anyone cept the person who experienced it.

Bought a lot of games just cause they were good and didn't need achs attached, but not against it either. Actually thought achs were a great idea ever since 360.

Hope to see the console achs added to this eventually please do it bethesda wouldn't hurt or help would just be a fun addition that we got on console. Oblivion also had achs on console that would also be nice.

[NuErOcHoSiS]

Imagine not learning things you never knew.

[Inaho]

Originally posted by Darkside Hamster:

It's weird, because I own the Xbox 360 version and that has achievements. Usually the steam ones mirror the console achievements. I'm kind of surprised, myself.

This game had achievements on GFWL but they didn't bring to Steam when they removed it.

[Aachen]

Originally posted by Inaho:

This game had achievements on GFWL but they didn't bring to Steam when they removed it.

We probably ought to blame the bean counters.

[NightmareGats]

Originally posted by Unseen:

Originally posted by Darkside Hamster:

Imagine thinking he cares about your disdain, anonymous internet person.


It's weird, because I own the Xbox 360 version and that has achievements. Usually the steam ones mirror the console achievements. I'm kind of surprised, myself.

PS3 also had trophies and they were fun.

Originally posted by NightmareGats:

imagine caring about worthless achievements

I do, offers fun gameplay objectives and give you goals to shoot for, no one cares if you unlock an achievement, its something people just like doing. Its like a badge it means nothing to anyone cept the person who experienced it.

Bought a lot of games just cause they were good and didn't need achs attached, but not against it either. Actually thought achs were a great idea ever since 360.

Hope to see the console achs added to this eventually please do it bethesda wouldn't hurt or help would just be a fun addition that we got on console. Oblivion also had achs on console that would also be nice.

so you can only play games if they have achievements? Are they your only objective when play games?
Where's the achievement in "do certain quest in the main story", "do the tutorial" and stuff like that?
Achievements dont add anything, you're the one who create your plays, achieves only add boring and meaningless stuff that you already do in a play through

[Richard I]

That’s the opposite of what he said. He said he bought a lot of games that didn’t have any achievements just because they’re good.

That doesn’t mean achievements don’t add a small layer of fun to the game.

Sometimes spend 10-30 hours after completely all gameplay trying to hunt the rest of the achievements.

I know on Saints Row, I played the game twice for fun, then did a third playthrough to complete every achievement just for the heck of it.

[NightmareGats]

Originally posted by Farmer Ted's:

That’s the opposite of what he said. He said he bought a lot of games that didn’t have any achievements just because they’re good.

That doesn’t mean achievements don’t add a small layer of fun to the game.

Sometimes spend 10-30 hours after completely all gameplay trying to hunt the rest of the achievements.

I know on Saints Row, I played the game twice for fun, then did a third playthrough to complete every achievement just for the heck of it.

still meaningless nonetheless

[Unseen]

Originally posted by Farmer Ted's:

That’s the opposite of what he said. He said he bought a lot of games that didn’t have any achievements just because they’re good.

That doesn’t mean achievements don’t add a small layer of fun to the game.

Sometimes spend 10-30 hours after completely all gameplay trying to hunt the rest of the achievements.

I know on Saints Row, I played the game twice for fun, then did a third playthrough to complete every achievement just for the heck of it.

That's kind of the thing I don't complete achievements unless its a fun game, or a good game I want to complete. And as far as actual 100% completion in games now, goodluck with that.

Reason I say that is the thing nightmare doesn't really get is that most modern games, or even games 20 years back (morrowind) could never be fully completed. Not every nuance and item. How would morrowind be completed anyway its an explorer hording sim, you could fill a house but it still wouldn't be enough.

My point is games are not like donkey kong country or zelda 64, not these days they don't just end abruptly. There's always something to do in most games now. If you are that driven and some games are built with that in mind such as mario 64, get all the stars right?

Its not so easy in a game like fallout3 or fallout nv. Hell I've given up the idea of ever getting all achs in new vegas. But FO3 actually had fun and possible achs, I think the worst one I remember on PS3 was gathering ingots.
So if a games got impossible not worth it achievements I'm not gonna bother, or I'll do as much as I can then retire it. Some frustrations are not worth it, such as darius burst I love the game, always have, but over a thousand levels of bullet hell frustration and impossible bosses yea no thanks. Those kind of games I just play and challenge myself on. But a game like FO3, that's fun and driven toward a major goal.. Why not get them all? Its not impossible, its not some frustrating waste of time... Its doing a lot of things that actually impact the character in the game. Achievements when they were introduced on 360 weren't some game breaking industry thing. They didn't make games bad or worse, I think they added more interactivity myself. Like how steam added the user percentage as well. What made gaming worse was overpriced hardware and flimsy fail happy consoles not achs.

Nightmare is welcome to his opinion, I have a good friend one of my best friends who plays a lot of rpgs and he doesn't care about achievements at all. That's great I can see the preference some people prefer games that don't have a title end on them. You just play them and get into them. But other games I think achievements work. For example darkwood, pathologic 1/2, final fantasy series (sp ones), cause you work toward an ultimate goal. Coupled with the fact that most modern games never end, and can go on forever with online play and other extra modes, for some an achievement, especially a completed list, is indication that you least got to an official end point.

Just how I feel, some games achievements are not fun and better off ignored or looked at as something you fought very hard for and won in an unusual way. That's another point I have for achievements. Some might be fun get em alls like FO3, others might just be incredibly hard goals you would think you can never get, then suddenly through skill and gameplay ding. These are probably the ones that represent actual real achievements.

Originally posted by NightmareGats:

Originally posted by Farmer Ted's:

That’s the opposite of what he said. He said he bought a lot of games that didn’t have any achievements just because they’re good.

That doesn’t mean achievements don’t add a small layer of fun to the game.

Sometimes spend 10-30 hours after completely all gameplay trying to hunt the rest of the achievements.

I know on Saints Row, I played the game twice for fun, then did a third playthrough to complete every achievement just for the heck of it.

still meaningless nonetheless

What meaning are you looking for in any videogame?

[Aachen]

All the official NV challenges aren’t that hard to clear; admittedly I did it on Steam after having played the game through a few times before, but it’s mostly choosing the right save points for doing the mutually-exclusive stuff.

[Richard I]

Originally posted by NightmareGats:

Originally posted by Farmer Ted's:

That’s the opposite of what he said. He said he bought a lot of games that didn’t have any achievements just because they’re good.

That doesn’t mean achievements don’t add a small layer of fun to the game.

Sometimes spend 10-30 hours after completely all gameplay trying to hunt the rest of the achievements.

I know on Saints Row, I played the game twice for fun, then did a third playthrough to complete every achievement just for the heck of it.

still meaningless nonetheless

The meaning of most video games are to have fun, so how is it meaningless if it helps fill the role a game is supposed to have?

[Unseen]

I mean honestly meaningless is in the eye of the beholder to me, depending on some ideals and beliefs life is either full of meaningful symbolism or a complete random spawned from some volatile singularity.

Originally posted by Aachen:

All the official NV challenges aren’t that hard to clear; admittedly I did it on Steam after having played the game through a few times before, but it’s mostly choosing the right save points for doing the mutually-exclusive stuff.

See the thing is, its actually the simple achs I'm having the most problems unlocking cause they are all glitched. Like level 20-30. I used some console commands on an old pc and messed them up years ago. Years later installed on a new pc, and its still acting like I used the console but I've played completely legit. I have no idea how to fix this, so the level achs are automatically locked out. And nobody will inform me of why they just tell me I'm a cheater then say how pointless achs are...