why is the assault rifle a g3

[Wenda]

i never understood why they made it that

[Yzal]

Because it was designed in the 50s, and Bethesda seems to think that gun design froze around that time in the Fallout universe.
So does what would eventually evolve into the m16, but i guess it's looks too "space age" for them.

[Mennan]

It also looks pretty close to the F1/2 Assault rifle so they could of just picked the closest rifle that looks like that.

[LiL blade]

because a g3 look cool,as do most guns

[talemore]

M15 is space tech in fallout
In New Vegas the only way to find is by grave digging Vaults. Space age tech has parts replaced with wood stocks and harder is to find armor who hasn't lost it protectiveness. For that reason the brotherhood of steel armor was invented after the war and ghouls are told to been people left on the outside but most likely they were canaria birds to vaults sent out to survive the fallout and since they returned deformed they were hunted on spot. In fact there are vaults where mutant humans were created as the vaults weren't completely protective to radiations.

[Doctor Go-Go]

Maybe because the FN FAL, HK91, Mini 14, SKS and AK47 were and are very common here in the United States since they're surplus gun (which means civilians tend to have them because they're CHEAP compared to others) and maybe it's implied they have modified civilian firearms?

Maybe it's implied the Germans which is why German rifles are so common?

But since this all take place after the war and several years after growing up in a vault how could you say the technology they created in the wasteland couldn't have been invented by someone else. After all the furniture of the gun is what gives it the look, that's what MOST people recognize when they look at gun, the furniture, not the receiver.

ALSO! Just like the M14 derives from the M1 Garand rifle and M1 Carbine the German HK 90 series derives from old german technology, so there's no way you could say or assume where those rifles came from. Firearms are engineered a decade or decades before ever being officially put into production (manufactured) and adopted by a military.

So maybe the Germans were already there and already had HK90 series rifles all ready to go, maybe it was time to put their prototype into production earlier than intended. Maybe the Germans gave the guns to the Chinese :)

So when SKS and AK Rifles are so common in the U.S and they're Russian rifles, The FN FAL is common and that's British and the M14 is American and these people are scavenging weapons from a wasteland that has been invaded who could say would be commonly found out there? It makes sense that they have 1940's thru 50's German technology.

If you want to assume they should have more accurate weapons... then ask why their Pistol is not the most common of their time? Which would have been the 1911 and which also happens to be just as common to our present day. And Why is it 10MM, a cartridge that was released during the early 1980's?

Why is their assault rifle .308 Winchester or 7.62 NATO when it happens to be a German Rifle? .30 06 and 8mm Mauser would be more accurate to World War. And Yes I know it's not exactly 8mm.

[LiL blade]

Originally posted by Doctor Go-Go:

Maybe because the FN FAL, HK91, Mini 14, SKS and AK47 were and are very common here in the United States since they're surplus gun (which means civilians tend to have them because they're CHEAP compared to others) and maybe it's implied they have modified civilian firearms?

Maybe it's implied the Germans which is why German rifles are so common?

But since this all take place after the war and several years after growing up in a vault how could you say the technology they created in the wasteland couldn't have been invented by someone else. After all the furniture of the gun is what gives it the look, that's what MOST people recognize when they look at gun, the furniture, not the receiver.

ALSO! Just like the M14 derives from the M1 Garand rifle and M1 Carbine the German HK 90 series derives from old german technology, so there's no way you could say or assume where those rifles came from. Firearms are engineered a decade or decades before ever being officially put into production (manufactured) and adopted by a military.

So maybe the Germans were already there and already had HK90 series rifles all ready to go, maybe it was time to put their prototype into production earlier than intended. Maybe the Germans gave the guns to the Chinese :)

So when SKS and AK Rifles are so common in the U.S and they're Russian rifles, The FN FAL is common and that's British and the M14 is American and these people are scavenging weapons from a wasteland that has been invaded who could say would be commonly found out there? It makes sense that they have 1940's thru 50's German technology.

If you want to assume they should have more accurate weapons... then ask why their Pistol is not the most common of their time? Which would have been the 1911 and which also happens to be just as common to our present day. And Why is it 10MM, a cartridge that was released during the early 1980's?

Why is their assault rifle .308 Winchester or 7.62 NATO when it happens to be a German Rifle? .30 06 and 8mm Mauser would be more accurate to World War. And Yes I know it's not exactly 8mm.

wow i learned quite a bit from this, i didnt know about the FN FAL being made by britain,thats pretty neat

[Löthar Storm]

country of origin was Belgium, those folks don't always just make waffles.

[Doctor Go-Go]

Originally posted by LiL blade:

Originally posted by Doctor Go-Go:

Maybe because the FN FAL, HK91, Mini 14, SKS and AK47 were and are very common here in the United States since they're surplus gun (which means civilians tend to have them because they're CHEAP compared to others) and maybe it's implied they have modified civilian firearms?

Maybe it's implied the Germans which is why German rifles are so common?

But since this all take place after the war and several years after growing up in a vault how could you say the technology they created in the wasteland couldn't have been invented by someone else. After all the furniture of the gun is what gives it the look, that's what MOST people recognize when they look at gun, the furniture, not the receiver.

ALSO! Just like the M14 derives from the M1 Garand rifle and M1 Carbine the German HK 90 series derives from old german technology, so there's no way you could say or assume where those rifles came from. Firearms are engineered a decade or decades before ever being officially put into production (manufactured) and adopted by a military.

So maybe the Germans were already there and already had HK90 series rifles all ready to go, maybe it was time to put their prototype into production earlier than intended. Maybe the Germans gave the guns to the Chinese :)

So when SKS and AK Rifles are so common in the U.S and they're Russian rifles, The FN FAL is common and that's British and the M14 is American and these people are scavenging weapons from a wasteland that has been invaded who could say would be commonly found out there? It makes sense that they have 1940's thru 50's German technology.

If you want to assume they should have more accurate weapons... then ask why their Pistol is not the most common of their time? Which would have been the 1911 and which also happens to be just as common to our present day. And Why is it 10MM, a cartridge that was released during the early 1980's?

Why is their assault rifle .308 Winchester or 7.62 NATO when it happens to be a German Rifle? .30 06 and 8mm Mauser would be more accurate to World War. And Yes I know it's not exactly 8mm.

wow i learned quite a bit from this, i didnt know about the FN FAL being made by britain,thats pretty neat

Sarcasm doesn't help "Sarcasm is anger's ugly cousin" and "Misery loves company"

My mistake, I don't remember who initially drew up the specs for it and everyone who was fully involved with the engineering and FN manufactured a lot of guns for different contractors and countries based off of the specs sent to them from whoever they made them for. I know during a time the British had them, been so long it's becoming trivial to me. As for who had the initial blue prints for it, who had engineered it and who did some 3rd party engineering over the years, I don't know, I'd assume ALL of the 3rd party engineering was by FN.

FN made A LOT of guns, assemblies and parts. Just like dozens of gun companies make the receivers, assemblies, barrels and other parts, trade it then assemble rifles and put their names on them, which is why today you see 1911's and AR15's with SO MANY different names on them.

Yeah, FN is Belgian, I know, but I recall the British having FALs, out of any major militia or military the Brits had FALs for a very long time. Belgian, Britain oops, obvious mistake.

FN made guns you don't know exist because you've never seen them. I've seen 1911 slides and AR15 receivers Stamped FN which is why those receivers and slide were so valuable, collectors wanted them.

To keep it simple, you could design a gun, send it to FN and contract them to make it if they accept and will invest in it. It would be Stamped FN, you would get your cut and no one would ever know who really designed it because most would never care :D

So was the FAL originally designed by a British engineer and sold to FN or did a Belgian fully engineer it? Who really knows? and Wiki is not a reliable source for information.

[Doctor Go-Go]

Originally posted by Unholy Elvis Decanter:

country of origin was Belgium, those folks don't always just make waffles.

Yes, a brain fart, I know FN is Belgian but I remember the British being the large fighting force that carried the FAL so... Belgian British :P Woops.

Fabrique Nationale, the manufacturer is Belgian, that doesn't mean FN engineered it. Many guns, assemblies and slides were made by Fabrique Nationale. A whole lot of them were third party contracts, not their engineering, they've done more manufacturing than engineering.

I think Browning did most of the engineering and once he died FN went to mostly manufacturing for 3rd party contractors, which included the U.S One manufacturer couldn't have made ALL of those M1 Garands, M14'S M4 Carbines and M16's alone. Which is why you see AR15's and parts from a few dozen manufacturers now ;)

The parts don't have any markings until they leave the factory and or are assembled as a complete assembly or complete firearm therefore you really have no idea how old the parts are that were used to make your AR15 nor when they were made and which gun manufacturer they came from, you just assume ALL of it was made a month ago :) Yes gun manufacturers buy parts and assemblies from each other, it's not a <insert brand name> until they assemble serialize and engrave their name into it ;)

So when you see a gun manufacturer NOW making some gun that some other manufacturer made 10, 20, 30 years ago, most of the parts and assemblies came from the old manufacturer. The New company puts their name it and sells as NEW and it's NEW to most people therefore they'll never know how old it actually is :D Most of them will think it was JUST invented last week :P and that's all they would ever care to know. Which is why you'll see them for a few years and they stop making them. ALL of the parts are gone and they never fabricated them to begin with.