Fallout 3 GOTY crashes on the New/Load game loading screen after latest Windows update: "Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool for Windows 8, 8.1, 10 and Windows Server 2012, 2012 R2 x64 Edition - October 2016 (KB890830)"

[Geo]

Has anyone else encountered this issue? If so, has you found a solution?

[Geo]

I attempted to fix this issue in a number of ways, including:

Deleting all local content after backing up files and reinstalling
Changing compatability and running under admin privileges
Downloading and running Doolcookies' Windows 10 Fix
Reinstalling nVidia drivers

None have had an effect.

[Belanos]

You either need to roll back your video drivers or follow the instructions in this thread:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/22380/discussions/0/343786745995848552/

Don't worry that the thread is for New Vegas, it's the same problem for both games. If you're using an Nvidia card, the last version that still works is 368.81. I don't know about AMD, but people have reported problems with 16.9.2.

And yes, everyone who has an Nvidia card has had the problem. Some who use AMD as well.

[Geo]

You're amazing. Thanks for that.

Yeah, I did some fishing but couldn't find any up-to-date solution, obviously wasn't looking hard enough!

The game is working a treat again.

[GhostlyGainz]

Yeah I have an nvidia gtx 660, and I have the same crash when trying to load games or start a new one. Just stated happening, because a month ago I was playing the game like a charm. I tried every solution I could find on forums and guides and none of them worked. So I think the nvidia driver is probably the issue.

[Belanos]

Originally posted by ICoN:

So I think the nvidia driver is probably the issue.

It's a combination of the driver and the Windows 10 Anniversary update. Microsoft made a change to one of the shader protocols used by video cards, and any driver released that has that change in it will crash the game. Even some AMD cards are doing it.

[GhostlyGainz]

Originally posted by Belanos:

Originally posted by ICoN:

So I think the nvidia driver is probably the issue.

It's a combination of the driver and the Windows 10 Anniversary update. Microsoft made a change to one of the shader protocols used by video cards, and any driver released that has that change in it will crash the game. Even some AMD cards are doing it.

It's kinda rediculous, and since it seems to only be happening in fallout 3 and new vegas, I don't think they are gonna change it unless it becomes a problem in games that are played more often by players. I also don't really want to downgrade my drivers, because I play a lot of other newer games too, and having outdated drivers could effect performance. I hope they do change it though, because fallout is probably my favorite series next to the older splinter cell games.

[Belanos]

Originally posted by ICoN:

It's kinda rediculous, and since it seems to only be happening in fallout 3 and new vegas, I don't think they are gonna change it unless it becomes a problem in games that are played more often by players.

It's not just the Fallout games that are affected, apparently Oblivion is doing it too. And there could very well be other non-Bethesda titles that are having the issue as well. I don't hang out in that many game forums so I don't know which ones.

I also don't really want to downgrade my drivers, because I play a lot of other newer games too, and having outdated drivers could effect performance.

Well there is that thread I linked to that will provide you with another alternative. Some people have had graphics problems using it though, and it will break any ENB anyone tries to add to the game. But rolling back your drivers isn't your only option at least. It's probably the most stable one however.

[GhostlyGainz]

Well there is that thread I linked to that will provide you with another alternative. Some people have had graphics problems using it though, and it will break any ENB anyone tries to add to the game. But rolling back your drivers isn't your only option at least. It's probably the most stable one however.

Alright, I will check that out and see if it helps.

[GhostlyGainz]

Well there is that thread I linked to that will provide you with another alternative. Some people have had graphics problems using it though, and it will break any ENB anyone tries to add to the game. But rolling back your drivers isn't your only option at least. It's probably the most stable one however.

Ok, that definately worked. Thank you very much for helping me locate that fix.