Your Empire

[ElSinManos]

First: sorry for my english.
Hi, i want to buy this game, but, in order to do that, i need to know... ¿it is possible to capture islands, forts or citys for you player? meaning this, i want to capture and conquer every single corner of the game (for example, Mount & Blade Warband allow you to do that). I've been played sea dogs, sea dogs 2 "pirates of the caribbean", but these games don't let you capture and keep for you own towns, islands or forts.
Thanks, and again, sorry for my english, all i know in english is for playing MMORPG games and its not my nature language.

[Cpt Fracasse]

It is the same in SD - TEHO TheLostInWar, you can capture and conquer but you won't keep towns for yourself. And you won't manage them
Did you try POTC New Horizons Mod ( Pirates Ahoy) - There you can keep the towns and manage them with an officer.

[Shenji]

Originally posted by Sir Henry Morgan:

In "Age of Pirates 2 City of Abandoned Ships" you can do it as well. You can still find it at Amazon or Ebay if you want to buy it. Before "Sea Dogs: To Each His Own" i played it for years and still prefer it because it´s a real Open World Role Playing Game. "Sea Dogs: To Each His Own" isn´t!

Couldn't agree more.
Actually after years of playing, I'm still miss a lot of major quests in CoAS. Hope they add it to GOG soon.

[LHookins]

Amazon: "1 used from $199.99"

The videos I've seen of the game look interesting enough, but I have a question. How is CoAS an open world game that Sea Dogs isn't?

[Shao9th]

No, you can't. Try "Age of Pirates 2 City of Abandoned Ships", that game similar to this, but allows you to do that. (but only if you complete quests for nations(France, Spain etc))
And if you know russian language, try addon "Корсары Проклятые Судьбой" It allows you to build your own colony.
P.s. and yeah, sorry for my english too X)

[Shenji]

Originally posted by LHookins:

Amazon: "1 used from $199.99"

I saw that too...

Originally posted by LHookins:

The videos I've seen of the game look interesting enough, but I have a question. How is CoAS an open world game that Sea Dogs isn't?

Imo,
You can choose from three characters, you can choose their nationality and something others. Only one of them have a so called tutorial(yet also quite annoying but not too much), but choosing other 2 characters makes no impact on game play(except their nationality, and you can change it). There are no 'main quest' but some major quest. You can start them whenever you want and can. The random missions were not too various, but trading and smuggling were more profitable. There are a lot of undead creatures, quite challenging, and you can 'trigger' them, simply whenever you want to. You can just do whatever you want in this game, unless you got a little bored and decided to begin a major quest. I've played CoAS for years before I lost the disc, and still didn't finish half of the major quests, though I did get a divorce(in game of course).
It's some kind of that experience: you don't too appreciated when you playing it, but when you have no choices but stuck in Teho, you badly missed CoAS. Imo
But the one thing CoAS was obvious superior than TEHO is: No gold Dumb-Loons there.
And I miss my pump action shotgun...

[LHookins]

Thanks, Shenji.

From what I could see from the videos, the Captain Blood storyline was just about as bad as the TEHO tutorial. Nice of them to give you a couple of open play characters.

OK, aside from having only the one character and nationality in TEHO, they sound pretty similar. After doing the TEHO tutorial stuff and talking to the brother a second time, which opens the sandbox part of the game, you can ignore the entire story line if you want. If you decide to do it later on in the game, you can but are restricted to the main Dutch Gambit. I bought a trading license early on and had no problems with anyone except pirates, so nationality didn't matter that much.

I found trading to be quite profitable, but only after I found a good purser with all three trade perks. This can take a month of game time, but by the three month point you can easily have 3-5 million.

How was the sailing model? Was it reasonably realistic, or like TEHO where it would seem more realistic and make more sense if you simply turned the wind direction pointer in the opposite direction for many ships? I'm going to guess that you were forced to go to the world map to sail between islands.

TEHO does a lot of stuff right, and it has considerable depth, and a number of features I like, but there's a lot of stuff in Pirates of the Caribbean with the New Horizons build mod that I prefer.

Hook

[Shenji]

Yes I also joined the petition on GOG about the PotC, because of the New Horizon.

[LHookins]

Thanks, Morgan, that's very useful.

My next question is, what will I get from COAS that I'm not already getting from Potc New Horizons?

Is the source code available like it is with PotC? Where is the modding community? And again, what is the sailing model like?

As far as I know, New Horizons is the only mod that allows you to sail between islands without going to the world map. You never have to leave the deck of your ship. In fact, one of the difficulty levels removes the world map and all sail-to options.

If I hadn't gotten back into PotC I'd have bought COAS without question. Now that I've had 70 hours to get used to it, I don't think I could leave PotC. I'm not saying it will never happen, just that I'll need a really good reason. Keep in mind that for me, the game is a sailing simulator, with missions available in the game to give you a reason to sail somewhere.

Now that I know COAS is still available new, I'll do more research.

Hook

[LHookins]

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I'll assume you meant that for other people looking for information on COAS.

It looks like COAS and TEHO are both using the same map. The map is better than New Horizons.

[LHookins]

I just realized what it was in your post that annoyed me.

All your questions AND MOD REQUESTS can be fulfilled here:

I don't request mods. I make them.

Of course, there's no way for you to have known that.

As for questions, I'll research answers myself. If I ask a question here, it's to get the opinions of people who play TEHO and to get comparisons. You only have to read their forums to find out how little people there know about TEHO. Which is OK, they have a different focus. In this forum we have some actual experts in the game.

Hook

[Shenji]

Originally posted by Sir Henry Morgan:

Originally posted by Shenji:

I saw that too...

Look at Ebay for less and all of them have english language:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=Age+of+Pirates+2+City+of+Abandoned+Ships&_sacat=0

Thanks for the info. Since I don't have DVD-Rom installed, I will wait for a digitize :)

[LHookins]

Ouch, Shenji! I can't imagine not having a DVD-Rom, but then, at one time I couldn't imagine not having a 5 1/4" floppy drive either. And this was after no one sold software on that size disk.

If for some reason I needed one today, I'd be looking at an external one. It would be more expensive than an internal drive, because it needs an enclosure and power supply, and if you don't already have SATA ports you'll need to install a card with that as well, or facing slow loading times over USB, assuming that option is available.

Depending on how badly you want this game, you might look at getting the drive. If it's going to be anything like PotC, there's no guarantee that COAS will ever be available in a digital version. Of course, a digital version would solve everyone's problem.

Hook

[Shenji]

Actually I deliberately removed internal DVD ROM when built this PC, just trying to find out if I can live without it(guess it's some kind of 'temporary' PTSD thing after I lost all my disc-collection), and the answer is quite obvious to me. But since you mentioned an external one, I remembered I did get one, for precautions, and this thing is just sitting in front of me, under a pile of books, for years :D
Maybe I'll get this DVD from eBay one day, but after TEHO, I'm not too eager now, even if it goes digitized... But I'll definitely try New Horizon of PotC when possible, after I read something about it on pirates-ahoy in past several days.

[Mirsaneli]

Originally posted by LHookins:

Thanks, Morgan, that's very useful.

My next question is, what will I get from COAS that I'm not already getting from Potc New Horizons?

Is the source code available like it is with PotC? Where is the modding community? And again, what is the sailing model like?

As far as I know, New Horizons is the only mod that allows you to sail between islands without going to the world map. You never have to leave the deck of your ship. In fact, one of the difficulty levels removes the world map and all sail-to options.

If I hadn't gotten back into PotC I'd have bought COAS without question. Now that I've had 70 hours to get used to it, I don't think I could leave PotC. I'm not saying it will never happen, just that I'll need a really good reason. Keep in mind that for me, the game is a sailing simulator, with missions available in the game to give you a reason to sail somewhere.

Now that I know COAS is still available new, I'll do more research.

Hook

You can sail from from one island to another in 3D sailing mode if you use Historical Eras Mod for COAS... I have tried it and it works :)

[LHookins]

Thanks, Mirsaneli!

If it's got directsail, I'll probably give it a try. The graphics are probably an upgrade from New Horizons at least.

I'm assuming the source code and resources are in the download. Modding the game is half the fun. :)

Hook