!!!! OMG!!! Was this on Steam the whole time?!?!

[=CrimsoN=]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥! Are you serious?!?! There is a Sea Dogs game on Steam?!?! One of the very first Xbox games I played was Pirates of the Carribbean (aka the original Sea Dogs 2). That game was an absolute gem on the old Xbox. Think Morrowind but with Pirates. Actually published by Bethesda too while being developed by Akella. Absolutely fell in love with that game.

Little while back I bought it again for PC through Amazon because Steam didn't have it. Still $30 because its so rare. The PC version is even better because you have the New Horizons mod which basically makes the game a better version of Sid Mierers Pirates! (yeah, never thought that was possible).

And now I find out that there are other Sea Dogs games on GOG.com (which I just bought) AND this gem on Steam?!?! HOLY NUTS. It's like Christmas morning!

Here's to hoping Pirates of the Caribbean (Sea Dogs 2) ends up on Steam as well, although I highly doubt it, since there was a conflict between Bethesda and Akella or something. So now every copy of that gem of a game are super rare....not Elder Scrolls Redguard rare, but..well...I highly suggest anyone buying this game to also get that one and the New Horizons mod.

Would I like this game though, if I played Pirates of the Caribbean? I know I won't have the New Horizons mod, but even the vanilla game was fun with all its flaws.

[LHookins]

New Horizons might be the better game, with all the content, but To Each His Own is very good and more modern besides. I love the side quests in TEHO.

City of Abandoned Ships on GOG is the same game as TEHO with different content. TEHO has more and it's better, and you can tell TEHO is the more refined game. I'm playing COAS because I can mod it, although I do not care for the available mods.

I've played all three and enjoyed them. I doubt you can go wrong. :) Each has its benefits.

TEHO has a long tutorial at the beginning, and it will take a few hours of play before you get your ship. You can use a walkthrough from the forums here to help you though it. It's actually fun when you know what you're doing, and aren't in a hurry to go sailing.

There are still some translation issues, but I don't find them too bad.

I prefer the sailing model in COAS to the one in TEHO. It's ok for square riggers though.

Hook

[LHookins]

Oh, and don't worry about the translations. Most of the game is fine, some places might have some odd usage, about like talking to anyone whose native language wasn't your own. There are a couple of places that were still Russian, and only one where it looked like they'd run it through Google Translate from Russian to French, then to Japanese, and then to English. But if you've ever spent time on a foreign language forum and had to use a translator, you won't have any problems.

Hook

[=CrimsoN=]

Ah, you saw my response to a review? Yeah. I heard the combat system is just as clunky as POTC was and I've long since gotten used to that type of system...actually its really not that bad. Not sure why so many complain about it. It's difficult, but sword fighting isnt exactly supposed to be easy. so meh

Not too good at the ship combat though until I get my hands on a Corvette-class. Then Im pretty much just unstoppable at sea. :D

Good to see Im not the only one who played POTC though! and holy crap! you have so many hours on this game! Can't believe Im just learning about this game now. Kind of debating about dropping the money on it, when I already just bought the entire Sea Dogs collection ;-;

[LHookins]

Hehe! 806 hours and almost none of it in the storyline. I've been playing sandbox exclusively and loving it. If you like a story driven game, you'll probably love the Dutch Gambit.

As for ships, the starting ship isn't all that bad, but I avoided combat in it. I usually upgrade to a sloop when the storekeeper says my ship isn't big enough for his cargo hauling quest. The best small ship is a xebec, and I really like the polacre, basically a bigger xebec. I liked the brigantine until I got a polacre.

The last game I started I traded *down* to a courier lugger and did mostly courier missions for the harbormaster. I made nearly as much money as I did doing merchant trading, and was leveling and gaining skills faster.

Most of my time is spent sailing between islands on the deck of my ship, going to the world map only to cross island region boundaries, so I can easily cut a voyage time to 1/2 or 1/3 of what it would take on the world map. It means that at least half my game time has been spent watching the waves from the deck of my ship. :)

The land combat system is a lot more involved than the one from New Horizons. Naval combat is about the same, I think. I much prefer the controls in TEHO, where almost everything can be done with the mouse.

TEHO is cheap enough, but if you'd rather wait you may prefer to spend some time in COAS... without mods. Just so you can see the difference between COAS and TEHO clearly.

Hook

[Multigun]

I was in your boat like a month ago. I didn't even know Sea Dogs existed, but I was a huge fan of POTC (and didn't know that was essentally Sea Dogs 2). I have purchased this game, but am still in the middle of a play through using the AMAZING New Horizons community mod. If you can get your hands on a copy of POTC (ebay? sometimes can find used copies cheapish), it is extremely worth playing with the New Horizons mod.

[=CrimsoN=]

引用自 Multigun：

I was in your boat like a month ago. I didn't even know Sea Dogs existed, but I was a huge fan of POTC (and didn't know that was essentally Sea Dogs 2). I have purchased this game, but am still in the middle of a play through using the AMAZING New Horizons community mod. If you can get your hands on a copy of POTC (ebay? sometimes can find used copies cheapish), it is extremely worth playing with the New Horizons mod.

Yeah its crazy how expensive a new copy of POTC is at the moment...its not "Elder Scrolls Redguard new CD" expensive yet, but if things don't change between Bethesda and Akella to resolve whatever conflict they are having that is preventing digital distribution....well POTC could very well reach the point of extreme rarity.

I'm glad that I was able to get a copy of POTC on Amazon for $30....looking at it now, and the price has skyrocketed to $80!!! Thats insane! But yeah...the vanilla game is in the "okay" area, but New Horizons turns that game into the greatest naval combat/Pirate RPG in existence. Easily beating out the original game....New Horizons should probably be an entirely new game itself.

But I had no idea that there were other Sea Dogs games. Im definitely going to be getting Sea Dogs: To Each His Own! ;D

https://www.amazon.com/Pirates-Caribbean-PC/dp/B00009YUGP/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1484204913&sr=8-4-fkmr1&keywords=Pirates+of+the+Caribbean+video+game+akella

[Emperor Zombie]

I'm also a big fan of morrowind and Sea Dogs 2:PotC too.

$80 for Sea Dogs 2:PotC is a bit high but it looks like other sellers or offering it new for the $30 to $40 price range.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00009YUGP

[=CrimsoN=]

引用自 Emperor Zombie：

I'm also a big fan of morrowind and Sea Dogs 2:PotC too.

$80 for Sea Dogs 2:PotC is a bit high but it looks like other sellers or offering it new for the $30 to $40 price range.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00009YUGP

I only see "used"

[Anderson]

I think better wait to see the events with Diney unfold and let them publish Potc officially. It should happen eventually.
I'm not sure if Dinsey owns it, or Akella or Bethesda. There's quite a mess there with publishers honestly.

[=CrimsoN=]

引用自 Anderson：

I think better wait to see the events with Diney unfold and let them publish Potc officially. It should happen eventually.
I'm not sure if Dinsey owns it, or Akella or Bethesda. There's quite a mess there with publishers honestly.

Oh yeah, technically it belongs to Disney (even if only like 5% of the game has anything to do with the POTC movie).

I still love it that the Black Pearl is captained by "Barbarasso" but is just a generic pirate, and there is no Jack Sparrow. Nor does the Aztec Coin storyline make any sense

Man, I love that game :D

[Reaper]

POTC is the best game ever made, i put some serious hours into that game.