Demo looks and plays better

[CompleteGeorge]

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[Liamtui]

there's a demo?

[Dr.Disaster]

Do you have screenshots that verify this "looks better" claim?

I just checked out some old 1080 HD video's back from the game's release date, compared them with the actual game and i can't make out a difference.

[CompleteGeorge]

Dr.Disaster původně napsal:

Do you have screenshots that verify this "looks better" claim?

I just checked out some old 1080 HD video's back from the game's release date, compared them with the actual game and i can't make out a difference.

you really cat caputure quality whit pic and vids it always gets downgraded looking from source always better just dl the demo on the store page

[Dr.Disaster]

Sure you can capture pic/vid at the same quality as the source. Otherwise any capture software would be pointless.

CompleteGeorge původně napsal:

just dl the demo on the store page

I can't. Steam does not download the demo for me because i already owe the full game.

[CompleteGeorge]

Dr.Disaster původně napsal:

Sure you can capture pic/vid at the same quality as the source. Otherwise any capture software would be pointless.

CompleteGeorge původně napsal:

just dl the demo on the store page

I can't. Steam does not download the demo for me because i already owe the full game.

I record gameplay bro it dont look the same.yeah i try to dl demo lol just dls the full.
Did you play it before this patch i read some post saying this last patch is the one that mest up how the game just to look.and it makes sence kuz demo was the original version idk idc il play ect but still kinda mest up how they mest up a game by updating it lol

[Dr.Disaster]

Never had the demo. I got the game two months ago and it was already at patch 1.1.2 by then. No problems of any kind with the game, no hickups, no lag, nothing, running with this config.ini since day 1:

width=1920
height=1080
bits_per_pixel=32
refresh_rate=60
fullscreen=true
vsync=true
shader_quality=high
particle_quality=full_resolution
distortion=true
shadows=true
antialiasing=true
selected_dx=dx11
num_adapter=0
use_primary_device=true

[CompleteGeorge]

Dr.Disaster původně napsal:

Never had the demo. I got the game two months ago and it was already at patch 1.1.2 by then. No problems of any kind with the game, no hickups, no lag, nothing, running with this config.ini since day 1:

width=1920
height=1080
bits_per_pixel=32
refresh_rate=60
fullscreen=true
vsync=true
shader_quality=high
particle_quality=full_resolution
distortion=true
shadows=true
antialiasing=true
selected_dx=dx11
num_adapter=0
use_primary_device=true

yup same i dont have major lag it was just that time and sometimes when i move the right stick to look ahead but suppostly it was before 1.1.2 so the only way you wouldve notice if you played demo before buying it or before that patch

[JaredX7]

My old high-quality video encodes/recordings made for that Gem Guide even look better than 1.1.2 in-game (before uploading to YouTube)...(ok I might be stressing or whatever a bit too much over that but eh...)

http://users.on.net/~gozzys/2560x1440-EmeraldCliffs_Version_1_0_2_VideoRecording.png

Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams - Version 1.1.2
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=188254263

Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams - Version 1.0.2 (DRM-Free)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=188252372

Despite loosing some quality due to Steam, see if you can tell the difference between the two versions anyway. I can already tell that 1.0.2 is clearer.

[Dr.Disaster]

Those two screenshots told me what the "problem" is.

Your 1.1.2 screenshot shows that there is some kind of smoothing effect active, notable at edges but in the 1.0.2 screenshot it's not present so the later appears clearer.

Such smoothing effects can be caused by quick'n'dirty antialias features like nVidia FXAA. Make sure inside your gfx driver that any such features and other "optimiziation" stuff is disabled!

Due to this my 1.1.2 looks exactly like your 1.0.2:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=191936053
Any difference left might be caused by different resolutions. Mine is 1920x1080 while yours is 1920x1152.

[CompleteGeorge]

Dr.Disaster původně napsal:

Those two screenshots show me what the "problem" is.

Your 1.1.2 screenshot shows that there is some kind of smoothing effect active, notable at edges but in the 1.0.2 screenshot it's not present so the later appears clearer.

Such smoothing effects can be caused by quick'n'dirty antialias features as nVidia FXAA provide them. Make sure inside your gfx driver that any such features and other "optimiziation" stuff is disabled!

Due to this my 1.1.2 looks exactly like your 1.0.2:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=191936053
Any difference left might be caused different resolutions. Mine is 1920x1080 while yours is 1920x1152.

Im using amd card whit no force aa just the game engine aa..so..i want it to look pretty too...i hope trine devs finish there new game they know how to make a game and not mess it up lol

[Dr.Disaster]

Can't speak for AMD's CCC but there sure is something similar to nVidia's FXAA.

[CompleteGeorge]

Dr.Disaster původně napsal:

Can't speak for AMD's CCC but there sure is something similar to nVidia's FXAA.

nevermind about the trine dev there new game is splot and it looks like an ipad game that i wont be intristed in lol
Back to teh subject idc anymore like i said before il just play as is im just disapointed to see devs like this that give up on there own game insted of releasing a halloween special release a fix a rollback something

[JaredX7]

@Disaster who made a Disaster Comment: I ALWAYS have Antialiasing Forced OFF in ANY Game and/or Application. I have never even been a FAN of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ blurry FXAA and is ALSO disabled in everything. I have EVEN made a nvidia profile for GSTD as well.

So really the game has FXAA enabled regardless of Nvidia Profile Settings and what is set in the Launcher.

And no, your 1.1.2 screenshot does NOT look exactly like the 1.0.2 screenshot.
My resolution is also NOT 1920x1152, it's 2560x1440



... Yeah, "FXAA= Disallowed" for everything and 1.1.2 still doesn't look right.

[Dr.Disaster]

NoVa původně napsal:

So really the game has FXAA enabled regardless of Nvidia Profile Settings and what is set in the Launcher.

For reasons unknown to me it seems so.

Now while i disabled FXAA globaly and do not use profiles at all i allow any application the use of their regular antialias settings IF they offer AA. Maybe this makes the difference?

NoVa původně napsal:

And no, your 1.1.2 screenshot does NOT look exactly like the 1.0.2 screenshot.
My resolution is also NOT 1920x1152, it's 2560x1440

You're right about the point that i missed Steam resizing your screenshots for me and me failing to note it first. Yet according to a note at the top of the image when shown fullscreen after the resizes are made from 2048x1152 to 1920x1152. That the original is in fact 2560x1440 Steam does not tell when you click the picture. One needs to follow the link given with the picture to get to it or via your profile for the original, otherwise the Steam client interferes .. grrr ..

If i could run the game in 2560x1440 i would try and check further but my display does not support such resolutions.

[Garlboh]

CompleteGeorge původně napsal:

Dr.Disaster původně napsal:

Sure you can capture pic/vid at the same quality as the source. Otherwise any capture software would be pointless.


I can't. Steam does not download the demo for me because i already owe the full game.

I record gameplay bro it dont look the same.yeah i try to dl demo lol just dls the full.
Did you play it before this patch i read some post saying this last patch is the one that mest up how the game just to look.and it makes sence kuz demo was the original version idk idc il play ect but still kinda mest up how they mest up a game by updating it lol

If you can't get the end result to look like what you're playing, you're either doing it wrong or have a cheap-ish video card.

I have the game in my inventory, I'll check the demo out later today, then I'll install the full game and see if your claims are right.
I doubt it.