Dismantle everything I come across?

[Fizzie]

Just started recently in immersive mode. From my understanding, the only guns I have "unlocked" and can equip in bivoucs are those that I have blueprints for. I come across crates with guns while exploring. Should I just dismantle them for parts since I would lose them permanently if I switch them out? For example, I was using an mp5 bp gun and switched to a ump from crate.... I probably should have just dismantled the ump since I will eventually find a bp for it...

[Oby47]

I always dismantle unless I want to start using that gun. You will come across the same guns with frequency anyway from crates and dead bodies.

[Fizzie]

Originally posted by RMJ:

I just bought the TAC 50- best SNR. And the VHSD2- best ASR. With G money and bought a minibird chopper with rockets. As I replay the game alot after I finish it. This way I have The best stuff When I restart. I never dismantle weapons. As I have all that I need. Oh I did buy parts for my ASR also. Grenade launcher and laser optic. So all I need to buy from store in game is Optics for ASR. As I ran out of G money. Never waste G money on outfits!!!!!!

Those are the same guns im using haha. But ya, im pretty much just dismantling anything I come across. They dont give much but better than equipping it temporarily.

[BlueLightning]

Originally posted by Fizzie:

Originally posted by RMJ:

I just bought the TAC 50- best SNR. And the VHSD2- best ASR. With G money and bought a minibird chopper with rockets. As I replay the game alot after I finish it. This way I have The best stuff When I restart. I never dismantle weapons. As I have all that I need. Oh I did buy parts for my ASR also. Grenade launcher and laser optic. So all I need to buy from store in game is Optics for ASR. As I ran out of G money. Never waste G money on outfits!!!!!!

Those are the same guns im using haha. But ya, im pretty much just dismantling anything I come across. They dont give much but better than equipping it temporarily.

VSDH2 and TAC-50 is the best newbie starter kit. VHSD2 is the pvp meta, or maybe used to, while TAC-50 is newbie friendly sniper rifle. However, as the game progresses, there's a few gun that tops these two. Idk why RMJ keep saying that they are the best guns ALL over the threads, but here, this is the comprehensive list.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2231380/discussions/0/3787002916502253901/?tscn=1678506340#c3787002916508960298

For dismantling weapons (you don't use) in both looter and immersive, yes. You need weapon parts to upgrade guns. In immersive, picking non permanent weapon is useless unless you are OUT of ammo and have to pick enemy guns.

Remember that you cannot equip attachment to "temporary guns", so making them weaker than the original blueprint counterpart in immersive. When you decided on a weapon for long time, or even, as your go-to weapon, start upgrading the weapons to mk3.

If you have too many skell cred and less material (and doesn't have any use for the money), temporarily activate gear score, buy weapons from the weapon shop and mass dismantle them for materials, before you go back to gear score off again. While weapon materials are easily procured with elite mission, it really helps by going to the shop. However, i only recommend you to do so after you bought everything you want to buy with skell cred.

[BlueLightning]

Originally posted by RMJ:

Originally posted by BlueLightning:

VSDH2 and TAC-50 is the best newbie starter kit. VHSD2 is the pvp meta, or maybe used to, while TAC-50 is newbie friendly sniper rifle. However, as the game progresses, there's a few gun that tops these two. Idk why RMJ keep saying that they are the best guns ALL over the threads, but here, this is the comprehensive list.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2231380/discussions/0/3787002916502253901/?tscn=1678506340#c3787002916508960298

For dismantling weapons (you don't use) in both looter and immersive, yes. You need weapon parts to upgrade guns. In immersive, picking non permanent weapon is useless unless you are OUT of ammo and have to pick enemy guns.

Remember that you cannot equip attachment to "temporary guns", so making them weaker than the original blueprint counterpart in immersive. When you decided on a weapon for long time, or even, as your go-to weapon, start upgrading the weapons to mk3.

If you have too many skell cred and less material (and doesn't have any use for the money), temporarily activate gear score, buy weapons from the weapon shop and mass dismantle them for materials, before you go back to gear score off again. While weapon materials are easily procured with elite mission, it really helps by going to the shop. However, i only recommend you to do so after you bought everything you want to buy with skell cred.

When you spend as many hours as I have testing every weapon in the game. You would understand. The VHS has range and perfect vertical lift so at range you aim at chest and 2 or 3 round is a head shot. Only others this accurate are the shorter bullpups. As for the Tac 50 it has one of the longest ranges, it also uses a screw bolt system so reload is extreamly fast.It is a rather new design. And it don't kick like a mule like the Barrett. SO you can take another before they alert. What I find just stupid in the game is all so called 50's are actually .338's Why in the hell do we have so called 50's The round is near 3 times as big as a 338. So why is the clip so big? I will not go into the nonsense of penetration of a real 50 even a .338.As it is not even close to real in game.

arrit

Same case as ARX200, it has more kicks by default, but once fully upgraded with correct attachment, perk, and using assault class (level 6 at least), it has low recoil enough that you can just burst 3 and forget, having nearly 0 recoil for 3 round burst (and guaranteed to kill). Don't get me wrong, I spent hours and hours testing guns too, I have all the guns at mk3 including raid ones as well. On other hand, VSHD2 is a RNG for 3 shot rule, it's vertical sure can lead to a headshot, but it's a gamble if it kills with 3 shot, or 4 shots instead on the bodies. Since VHSD2 has lower ROF than ARX anyway, ARX gets faster TTK (Time To Kill) while having exactly same accuracy, with even slightly more range thanks to it's Bipod with almost the same amount of recoil in non-noticeable margin in short burst. The only time when the recoil becomes noticeable for me is when i fire at least 15 rounds in a row, which can be mitigated with perks, mastery, and so on. Not only that, but a magazine of 30 of ARX200 in immersive, if fired properly, explode a minitank from 100% health to 0%. VHSD2 will forced to reload, and it can kill you. Both VHSD2 and ARX200 has vertical kick recoil pattern (ARX200 has slightly more if fully upgraded). Let's not mention that if you use weapon mastery on ASR, you can boost more accuracy and handling even more, rendering the differences to close to NILL. 27 DMG vs 37 DMG with the RPM differences is quite huge. Again, TTK.

TAC-50 sure, it is bolt system and reload is fast, but can you say the same for m93 and m82 cerberus? TAC-50 doesn't have that much dps. M93 kills a juggernaut in the helmet in one shot. Sure, it's loud you say, but i usually use pistol to stealth anyway, and that helmet kill can be life and death when you got spotted in harder diff. M82 cerberus in other hand, has exactly same range, same accuracy like tac-50, has higher damage and worse recoil, but fire much faster. If i can fire 2 bullets with tac-50, i can emptied the whole M82-Cerb mag, which makes two tapping with Cerb that explode technicals and helicopters alike useful than just having a tac 50 with slow firing. It also can be surpressed as well rendering TAC-50 it's inferior compared to it. Sure, TAC-50 has lower recoil, but if you are got used to M82-Cerb with two magnifier (for ex, that scope that can toggle between 1x and 6x), you can fire a follow up shot after 2 sec and it will guarantee to blow the enemy technical or helicopter before they get close to you. TAC 50 would take 4 seconds at least to blow a vehicle up, but M82-Cerb takes around 2 seconds. Let's not forget heavy helicopters that takes 3-4 shots from M82-Cerb (about 6-8 seconds), it takes 4-5 shots for TAC-50 (about 12-15 seconds), and you have to survive rocket and minigun fired at you at same time.

As I said, it's a good newbie starting weapons, but it's not the best. Maybe, VHSD2 is the pvp gun that I used to know to be META, but in term of best ASR in PVE, ARX200 wins against VHSD2 hands down. The only one that ARX200 can be compared with is Koblin with it's 800 RPM, very low recoil but has smg ish accuracy (pretty much like other ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ASR acc)

Here's the rank in nutshell, if you don't want to bother looking at my comment in other thread.
ASR:
1st place: ARX200
2nd place: Koblin (Raid, Gargoyle boss (2nd) )
3rd place: VHSD2

Sniper:
1st Place: M82-Cerberus (Critical Raid, Cerberus boss (4th/last))
2nd Place: Zastava M93 (Rosebud)
3rd Place: TAC-50

Pistol:
1st place: Maxim-9
2nd place: SC IS
3rd place: MK. 23

[Fizzie]

While VSH and ARX are best statwise, ive been using m416 just bc of the aesthetic. When guns pretty much one shot headshot across the board and i usually stealth so tap firing... aesthetic is what ill prioritize

[M.D Geist]

I used to, and now I want to accumulate money so I sell as many guns that I don't want at the shop, it's not a ton of money but it adds up.

[Fizzie]

Originally posted by Yourebuying:

I used to, and now I want to accumulate money so I sell as many guns that I don't want at the shop, it's not a ton of money but it adds up.

Didnt know I could sell guns. Is this in looter mode? Ive only played immersive so far

[M.D Geist]

Originally posted by Fizzie:

Originally posted by Yourebuying:

I used to, and now I want to accumulate money so I sell as many guns that I don't want at the shop, it's not a ton of money but it adds up.

Didnt know I could sell guns. Is this in looter mode? Ive only played immersive so far

I think you should be able to but I don't know, I did one playthrough in immersive and then realized as a former ARMA player that I was being wayyy too uptight about gear score mode and that gear score mode is actually fun and adds to the game.

You might not however, what you CAN do, if not in immersive is quickly switch to gear score mode with zero penalties, and sell your ♥♥♥♥ and then go back to immersive, you're not forced to pick one or another and anything that was acquired in immersive will not be given gear score values or anything.

The system is quite forgiving, and you will need to do this in order to upgrade your grenade launchers because grenade launcher parts are very few and far between in immersive mode.

[Fizzie]

Originally posted by Yourebuying:

Originally posted by Fizzie:

Didnt know I could sell guns. Is this in looter mode? Ive only played immersive so far

I think you should be able to but I don't know, I did one playthrough in immersive and then realized as a former ARMA player that I was being wayyy too uptight about gear score mode and that gear score mode is actually fun and adds to the game.

You might not however, what you CAN do, if not in immersive is quickly switch to gear score mode with zero penalties, and sell your ♥♥♥♥ and then go back to immersive, you're not forced to pick one or another and anything that was acquired in immersive will not be given gear score values or anything.

The system is quite forgiving, and you will need to do this in order to upgrade your grenade launchers because grenade launcher parts are very few and far between in immersive mode.

Ive started playing more in looter mode to (i think) speed up gear level progress (want access to raids). Im not hurting on skell creds so it seems like i can return to shop every so often to upgrade a little bit. Im not able to carry anything beyond whats currently on me in immersive but can hold additional guns while in looter. Its a bit interesting and ill learn more as i try it. Encourages me to try different guns i come across atleast. I think lootable gear is scaled off average of currently equiped loadout? So I wanna prioritize equipping higher gear score items over what the item actually is?

[M.D Geist]

Originally posted by Fizzie:

Originally posted by Yourebuying:

I think you should be able to but I don't know, I did one playthrough in immersive and then realized as a former ARMA player that I was being wayyy too uptight about gear score mode and that gear score mode is actually fun and adds to the game.

You might not however, what you CAN do, if not in immersive is quickly switch to gear score mode with zero penalties, and sell your ♥♥♥♥ and then go back to immersive, you're not forced to pick one or another and anything that was acquired in immersive will not be given gear score values or anything.

The system is quite forgiving, and you will need to do this in order to upgrade your grenade launchers because grenade launcher parts are very few and far between in immersive mode.

Ive started playing more in looter mode to (i think) speed up gear level progress (want access to raids). Im not hurting on skell creds so it seems like i can return to shop every so often to upgrade a little bit. Im not able to carry anything beyond whats currently on me in immersive but can hold additional guns while in looter. Its a bit interesting and ill learn more as i try it. Encourages me to try different guns i come across atleast. I think lootable gear is scaled off average of currently equiped loadout? So I wanna prioritize equipping higher gear score items over what the item actually is?

I'm not hurting on skell creds either, I'm level 97 working toward getting max level and challenging myself to get to 1m sk.

I'm at about 750k rn, so it shouldn't be too too long.

If you are looking to min/max gear score mode, for assault rifles, if you can get a gold AR (any AR) with a handling/recoil buff, you will have a lead laser with nearly any gun.

The 4AC or the K1A are great guns to have these buffs with. Handling mitigates weapon sway and recoil mitigates recoil obviously.

Handling overall is a great buff to have with exception to sniper rifles and single shot DMRs as it doesn't accomplish as much.

Reload speed is also a very useful buff for some weapons.