Pirate attack frequency is just ridiculous

[markoman]

I'm feeling like there's a ten million peso bounty on my head the likes of which no other Storm Engine game had. I'm playing on Normal, Exploration Mode, and each time I'd sail out on the global map there's always, and I mean ALWAYS at least one pirate ship that'll fixate on and catch up to me and force me to combat.
I don't mind fighting but at this rate I'm burning ammo and repair funds and usually boarding isn't in my favor so I let cannons do the talking.
Is there a way to reduce this?

[titanopteryx]

there is but it requires a several skill point investment. If you learn all the navigation skills on your captain, he can then learn a skill that lets you avoid ship encounters.

[Kal]

The description of that skill says you avoid fleets, whether that counts as single ships or not, I have no idea but the pirate spam is indeed way too much.

[Peer1677]

Originally posted by Kal:

The description of that skill says you avoid fleets, whether that counts as single ships or not, I have no idea but the pirate spam is indeed way too much.

the way this skill works is: if you have a class 3+ ship Pirates will ignore/actively avoid you. You can still attack them, but they won't bother you anymore (it's well worth it). This does however not apply to patrols/fleets from other Nations or Bountyhunters.

[Nikola_PIRATE _Gamer]

I am the same as him, I cannot do missions, I am at the beginning, thanks to the continuous pirate attacks, I cannot finish any mission and that is why I am short of pesos and I have not paid my crew who mutiny and I have such a bad reputation that I cannot hire new crew

[Death]

Originally posted by Nikola_BCN_Gamer:

I am the same as him, I cannot do missions, I am at the beginning, thanks to the continuous pirate attacks, I cannot finish any mission and that is why I am short of pesos and I have not paid my crew who mutiny and I have such a bad reputation that I cannot hire new crew

Unfortunately you may have to start over, but if you can somehow get the money, you just have to pay your debt to stop the mutinies.

To OP. Pirate ships are my primary source of income. If you can whittle down their crew faster than they can whittle down yours and board them, you'll be rolling in the pesos before you know it.

[stretch]

Once you get the hang of things the start gets a lot easier. With no game knowledge it's pretty brutal. I can start a game and win every reasonable fight no worries but when I started I lost nearly everything and struggled too.
It's one of those games where you WILL stuff something up. It's almost inevitable. Be it earning a bounty for a mission the guide you followed said had no bounty or just picking the wrong officers and losing alignment with them because some of the ways you lose alignment are obscure and some just make no sense at all no matter how you look at them. Did you know you lose good alignment and favour with good officers if you hand in pirate captains to a towns Governor? That's silly.
I had to restart entirely, losing many hours effort before I finally had most things nutted out enough to go pretty well.

I think if new players went into it realising that you probably will have to restart once you play a game full of mistakes because it's just straight up easier than trying to recover from a bad situation. Like bounties. I had one for 10K but by the time I had sailed around trying to make the loot to pay it off it had blown out to 22k and now cost a squidrillion to buy out. Restart. Lost all my good alignment in one go handing in a heap of captured captains and every time I docked someone wanted to leave or be bribed to stay. Restart.

It sucks and sure some gurus out there will be good enough to ace everything, every time, all the time and will disagree with me but honestly even those types would have to admit that this game has a monstrous amount of exclusive peculiarities that not many people will see coming.

I was a bit sad initially feeling I had to restart but it's surprisingly easy once you manage a good start without screwing everything obtuse up. Really easy. You will be back where you were and in a better situation quite quickly because you aren't struggling anymore.

Just think about it anyway. A restart isn't as painful as it seems. There are ways built into the game to fix most things but once things start going pear shaped it does tend to snowball rather catastrophically.

[JamesFisher]

Yeah honestly id rather do something else then fight pirates, but im constantly forced to do it. I prefer a focus on more nation vs nation fighting. but i think have fought 1 Spanish for every 20 pirates at this point

[Nikola_PIRATE _Gamer]

Originally posted by Death:

Originally posted by Nikola_BCN_Gamer:

I am the same as him, I cannot do missions, I am at the beginning, thanks to the continuous pirate attacks, I cannot finish any mission and that is why I am short of pesos and I have not paid my crew who mutiny and I have such a bad reputation that I cannot hire new crew

Unfortunately you may have to start over, but if you can somehow get the money, you just have to pay your debt to stop the mutinies.

To OP. Pirate ships are my primary source of income. If you can whittle down their crew faster than they can whittle down yours and board them, you'll be rolling in the pesos before you know it.

Having made it clear from the beginning that I grew up with the Sea Dogs saga, what's more, I will also tell you that I just acquired this beast of a Steam Deck Oled and I play from it. I think attacking pirates if you can is great but I still have the Lugger that the prison brother gives you and restarting at these heights, I don't know how it would help me. It is very difficult to get anywhere with 2 pirate ships chasing you. The truth is that other dogs or other games from the company like Pirates of the Caribbean that are considered dogs 2 were not like that. So what should I do to restart?

[Nikola_PIRATE _Gamer]

Originally posted by JamesFisher:

Yeah honestly id rather do something else then fight pirates, but im constantly forced to do it. I prefer a focus on more nation vs nation fighting. but i think have fought 1 Spanish for every 20 pirates at this point

I'm exactly the same as you. I'm exactly the same as you

[Nikola_PIRATE _Gamer]

Originally posted by stretch:

Once you get the hang of things the start gets a lot easier. With no game knowledge it's pretty brutal. I can start a game and win every reasonable fight no worries but when I started I lost nearly everything and struggled too.
It's one of those games where you WILL stuff something up. It's almost inevitable. Be it earning a bounty for a mission the guide you followed said had no bounty or just picking the wrong officers and losing alignment with them because some of the ways you lose alignment are obscure and some just make no sense at all no matter how you look at them. Did you know you lose good alignment and favour with good officers if you hand in pirate captains to a towns Governor? That's silly.
I had to restart entirely, losing many hours effort before I finally had most things nutted out enough to go pretty well.

I think if new players went into it realising that you probably will have to restart once you play a game full of mistakes because it's just straight up easier than trying to recover from a bad situation. Like bounties. I had one for 10K but by the time I had sailed around trying to make the loot to pay it off it had blown out to 22k and now cost a squidrillion to buy out. Restart. Lost all my good alignment in one go handing in a heap of captured captains and every time I docked someone wanted to leave or be bribed to stay. Restart.

It sucks and sure some gurus out there will be good enough to ace everything, every time, all the time and will disagree with me but honestly even those types would have to admit that this game has a monstrous amount of exclusive peculiarities that not many people will see coming.

I was a bit sad initially feeling I had to restart but it's surprisingly easy once you manage a good start without screwing everything obtuse up. Really easy. You will be back where you were and in a better situation quite quickly because you aren't struggling anymore.

Just think about it anyway. A restart isn't as painful as it seems. There are ways built into the game to fix most things but once things start going pear shaped it does tend to snowball rather catastrophically.

I love the game, I return at 37 years old to a sea dogs but it is stressful. I also wanted to ask in Pirates lf the Caribbean- Sea Dogs 2 if you went to a lender and asked for money then you left the money in the drawer and came back they gave you more, it was a bug that the players took advantage of. I ask in this game can I do the same with lenders?

[titanopteryx]

Originally posted by Nikola_BCN_Gamer:

I am the same as him, I cannot do missions, I am at the beginning, thanks to the continuous pirate attacks, I cannot finish any mission and that is why I am short of pesos and I have not paid my crew who mutiny and I have such a bad reputation that I cannot hire new crew

You can make some money in town.

Save before going into the church and then talk to the priest. If he's panicking it means he was robbed and he'll give you a quest to retrieve the church money from robbers. You get a lot of money from the robber who ends up being in the jungle but you are supposed to give it back to the church. However the priest gives you a cut of it which is a few thousand pesos. This will require fighting on foot.

See if the shipwright has a quest to retrieve his missing tool. If he does you need to find it in town and when you return it he gives you thousands of pesos.

Check the various areas of the jungle to see if a native is wandering around. He might have gold nuggets, silver nuggets, or large or small pearls for sale for cheap. Then sell them to the banker in town for thousands in profit. If you find him continue checking the jungle areas because he might be in more areas with more for sale.

Check if the governor has a mission to go beat up robbers in the jungle. You can't save scum this mission it seems but he'll have a new one the next day assuming you save before talking to him and load after turning the mission down.

If there's a lighthouse with a lighthouse keeper on the island you're on, the lighthouse keeper buys bottles of rum for a lot. Buy them from the potion vendor in town and sell them to him. Also the lighthouse keeper sometimes has cheap trade goods for sale.

[titanopteryx]

Regarding hiring new crew there's a couple ways to get more if you can't hire in the tavern. Look around for a sailor wandering around town with a marker over his head. He might represent a group of sailors looking for work. You can hire a group there. Also in the jungle you might randomly come across escaped slaves. One option for dealing with them is inviting them to join your crew.

[zlozt]

There is an easy way to loose them. When pirates are approaching you, wait until you can start an encounter but still far away (ideally the moment when your spacebar action changes). Start an encounter, and you'll appear in the sea, but the fight won't start yet. Immediately press spacebar to get back to world map - and the pirates will disappear. I always do that when I'm on timed mission.

[Nikola_PIRATE _Gamer]

Originally posted by zlozt:

There is an easy way to loose them. When pirates are approaching you, wait until you can start an encounter but still far away (ideally the moment when your spacebar action changes). Start an encounter, and you'll appear in the sea, but the fight won't start yet. Immediately press spacebar to get back to world map - and the pirates will disappear. I always do that when I'm on timed mission.

I haven't understood the trick very much but I have to try it, thank you very much

[Nikola_PIRATE _Gamer]

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

Originally posted by Nikola_BCN_Gamer:

I am the same as him, I cannot do missions, I am at the beginning, thanks to the continuous pirate attacks, I cannot finish any mission and that is why I am short of pesos and I have not paid my crew who mutiny and I have such a bad reputation that I cannot hire new crew

You can make some money in town.

Save before going into the church and then talk to the priest. If he's panicking it means he was robbed and he'll give you a quest to retrieve the church money from robbers. You get a lot of money from the robber who ends up being in the jungle but you are supposed to give it back to the church. However the priest gives you a cut of it which is a few thousand pesos. This will require fighting on foot.

See if the shipwright has a quest to retrieve his missing tool. If he does you need to find it in town and when you return it he gives you thousands of pesos.

Check the various areas of the jungle to see if a native is wandering around. He might have gold nuggets, silver nuggets, or large or small pearls for sale for cheap. Then sell them to the banker in town for thousands in profit. If you find him continue checking the jungle areas because he might be in more areas with more for sale.

Check if the governor has a mission to go beat up robbers in the jungle. You can't save scum this mission it seems but he'll have a new one the next day assuming you save before talking to him and load after turning the mission down.

If there's a lighthouse with a lighthouse keeper on the island you're on, the lighthouse keeper buys bottles of rum for a lot. Buy them from the potion vendor in town and sell them to him. Also the lighthouse keeper sometimes has cheap trade goods for sale.

With so many pesos, what can you buy a better boat?