About Helen and Mary. (spoiler alert)

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I have a small question, Can you choose to either pick Helen or Mary at the end of the Pirate Saga quest after doing the things necessary to romance them both like in To Each His Own or do I have to decide which sequence of events should I do to romance one of them from the start? also I heard Helen has some extra content, Do I need the Black Mark DLC for that or is it added in the base game?

[StormRangerX]

You can pick Mary as long as you reject Helen at the end, though you have to do a lot to romance Helen and it's very easy to mess up.

[titanopteryx]

Helen ends up owning an island. I don't know the related laws but it might be its own country. Mary owns a room in a partially sunken ship. It's very weird to me why people would pick Mary.

The extra content for Helen is you can play sandbox as Helen and when she captures the Pink from the Black Mark DLC she has extra dialogue and gets a special achievement. She also starts in sandbox using the war schooner Rainbow which was mentioned during the Pirate Saga and there's another achievement for fully upgrading it.

[original shyster]

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

Helen ends up owning an island. I don't know the related laws but it might be its own country. Mary owns a room in a partially sunken ship. It's very weird to me why people would pick Mary.

The extra content for Helen is you can play sandbox as Helen and when she captures the Pink from the Black Mark DLC she has extra dialogue and gets a special achievement. She also starts in sandbox using the war schooner Rainbow which was mentioned during the Pirate Saga and there's another achievement for fully upgrading it.

With the updates, which has more content? Or I guess in your opinion, who did you pick and why?

[GqM]

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

Helen ends up owning an island. I don't know the related laws but it might be its own country. Mary owns a room in a partially sunken ship. It's very weird to me why people would pick Mary.

The extra content for Helen is you can play sandbox as Helen and when she captures the Pink from the Black Mark DLC she has extra dialogue and gets a special achievement. She also starts in sandbox using the war schooner Rainbow which was mentioned during the Pirate Saga and there's another achievement for fully upgrading it.

Some people pick Mary because they pity her. As you said, Helen owns a whole island, while Mary lives in a small, disgusting cabin of a rotting ship. Given the opportunity, shouldn't you rescue her from the horrible place that is 'Justice' Island?



I still prefer Helen though.

[GqM]

Originally posted by original shyster:

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

Helen ends up owning an island. I don't know the related laws but it might be its own country. Mary owns a room in a partially sunken ship. It's very weird to me why people would pick Mary.

The extra content for Helen is you can play sandbox as Helen and when she captures the Pink from the Black Mark DLC she has extra dialogue and gets a special achievement. She also starts in sandbox using the war schooner Rainbow which was mentioned during the Pirate Saga and there's another achievement for fully upgrading it.

With the updates, which has more content? Or I guess in your opinion, who did you pick and why?

v1.3 introduced new scenes for both girls in Longway's quest.
Helen has a whole quest whilst Mary is tied to the Justice Island quests.
Mary as a girlfriend is a brilliant fighting officer.
Helen provides you with a full ship upgrade that costs thousands of doubloons, but you don't need to provide any strategic goods. She can also start off with 90 navigation, 75 accuracy and cannons which is pretty valuable unless you have been spending too much time on freeplay and have officers that are better.


Since I play story mode on the highest difficulty, I pick Helen because XP gain is so slow.

[StormRangerX]

I prefer Mary because Helen had 0 personality in TEHO and basically just used you to get an island. They've expanded her character since but I haven't played it yet.

Also Mary is the best Vanguard in the game.

[Black Pastor]

Originally posted by GqM:

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

Helen ends up owning an island. I don't know the related laws but it might be its own country. Mary owns a room in a partially sunken ship. It's very weird to me why people would pick Mary.

The extra content for Helen is you can play sandbox as Helen and when she captures the Pink from the Black Mark DLC she has extra dialogue and gets a special achievement. She also starts in sandbox using the war schooner Rainbow which was mentioned during the Pirate Saga and there's another achievement for fully upgrading it.

Some people pick Mary because they pity her. As you said, Helen owns a whole island, while Mary lives in a small, disgusting cabin of a rotting ship. Given the opportunity, shouldn't you rescue her from the horrible place that is 'Justice' Island?



I still prefer Helen though.

That's not fair! Who doesn't love the nympho perfect waifu Mary? (I guess all the hype for her died with TEHO)

[titanopteryx]

Originally posted by Black Pastor:

Originally posted by GqM:

Some people pick Mary because they pity her. As you said, Helen owns a whole island, while Mary lives in a small, disgusting cabin of a rotting ship. Given the opportunity, shouldn't you rescue her from the horrible place that is 'Justice' Island?



I still prefer Helen though.

That's not fair! Who doesn't love the nympho perfect waifu Mary? (I guess all the hype for her died with TEHO) :bartax:

Beauty fades. Owning a private island lasts forever.

[GqM]

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

Originally posted by Black Pastor:

That's not fair! Who doesn't love the nympho perfect waifu Mary? (I guess all the hype for her died with TEHO) :bartax:

Beauty fades. Owning a private island lasts forever.

Wrong. Nothing lasts forever.

[Henry]

Am i missing something? Owning the Island got me no money, no benefits from the Island shops ship yard or store and generated no revenue. You can't even store a ship there. So no noticed difference in not owning it.

[StormRangerX]

It's a bit, you don't get anything from Helen's island.

[titanopteryx]

Originally posted by Henry:

Am i missing something? Owning the Island got me no money, no benefits from the Island shops ship yard or store and generated no revenue. You can't even store a ship there. So no noticed difference in not owning it.

Well the island is Helen's. The governor, if Helen stays with you on your ship, sends her rent money but that doesn't go to you. It's moreso I was saying Helen is the better pick because of social climbing. She's a land owner.

[GqM]

Shark is the one who runs the island anyway, not Helen.
Helen's name is just being used for the Brethren to continue their ownership of the island.
If you pick Helen, nothing special happens, but if you pick Mary over Helen (meaning you still have to fulfill the prophecy), Helen will stand in the residential room and will stare at you and Mary as you walk around.

[Dixi]

It is the same as the Triss or Yennefer question... For me it is Triss and Mary always. Yeah, I love red-heads, also both have the kinder personality, so I love kind red-heads.

But in any case, I would always just pick who feels right for me (not Charles, me).

[CloudKira]

Originally posted by StormRangerX:

You can pick Mary as long as you reject Helen at the end, though you have to do a lot to romance Helen and it's very easy to mess up.

In order to romance Mary all one has to do is to love her and not to cheat on her. And save her life like a gallant hero. You get a lovey dovey kickass vanguard who will NOT let Charless get cold at night. Plus you won't look like a gold digger and Jessica will bless this relationship:)

In order to romance Helen one needs to suck up to her like a natural simp, as doing any less than perfectly reading her mind and fulfilling her every wish immediately ends the relationship. And even a successful relationship is borderline sexless as Helen will blueball Charles quite often. :P