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ViewtifulGene Mar 26, 2024 @ 10:26pm
(When) is Sage Mark useful?
I don't get this thing. It seems like a horribly impractical mark for its unlock requirements. In what circumstance would anyone meet both of these conditions?

1. One knows enough about the game / have enough metaprogression to finish one of the hardest unlock quests

AND

2. One would consciously pick the Sage mark for a character over easier unlocks like Archer or Warlock.

Here's my holdup- the mark removes troll RNG from scroll pickups, but It's already easy enough to manage this. Unless you're leveling 6 abilities at once, chances are you can get what you want just from reroll potions.

Where would this thing actually be useful?
Originally posted by 🌺💗Tazzamorous💗🌺:
Unless you are allergic to even small RNG you don't take Sage mark for the scroll ability.You take it for one of two reasons:

Primarily 1) Pickup Range. It is the only place you can get bsae pickup range, and it's in Dedication to boot. It's amazing. If you are doing anything in your build that revolves around pickup range then it's amazing (Blazing Shell, Broker's Cape etc).

Secondary 2) The Weapon and Stance traits that affect ALL abilities. e.g. Base Dmg +10 (Weap II) doesn't seem like much... But if you are stacking low dmg, high speed abilities this is INCREDIBLE (Phantom Needles, Astro Orbs, Arcane Splinters, Transfixion, Spirit Warrior etc). The same is true for the various stance traits. e.g. +50% crit chance is HUGE if you are using abilities that have big crit bonus but lower crit chance.

There is little other reason to take the Sage mark. However, if you are doing a build that might benefit from one of these two things... Sage (mark) is VERY strong.
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Unless you are allergic to even small RNG you don't take Sage mark for the scroll ability.You take it for one of two reasons:

Primarily 1) Pickup Range. It is the only place you can get bsae pickup range, and it's in Dedication to boot. It's amazing. If you are doing anything in your build that revolves around pickup range then it's amazing (Blazing Shell, Broker's Cape etc).

Secondary 2) The Weapon and Stance traits that affect ALL abilities. e.g. Base Dmg +10 (Weap II) doesn't seem like much... But if you are stacking low dmg, high speed abilities this is INCREDIBLE (Phantom Needles, Astro Orbs, Arcane Splinters, Transfixion, Spirit Warrior etc). The same is true for the various stance traits. e.g. +50% crit chance is HUGE if you are using abilities that have big crit bonus but lower crit chance.

There is little other reason to take the Sage mark. However, if you are doing a build that might benefit from one of these two things... Sage (mark) is VERY strong.
peremptor Mar 26, 2024 @ 10:55pm 
WTF is the sage mark... haven't played in a while :)
ViewtifulGene Mar 27, 2024 @ 5:11am 
Originally posted by peremptor:
WTF is the sage mark... haven't played in a while :)

The last update added a 5th Hall with two new characters- Sage and Landsknecht. They also have class marks.
peremptor Mar 28, 2024 @ 1:56am 
Yeah just got him... very cool.
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Date Posted: Mar 26, 2024 @ 10:26pm
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