Rivals 2 Patch Notes (No Balance changes)

[Ereson]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2217000/view/6563527986004361522

Just some QOL updates, and a new skin for Kragg. December 3rd is when the next balance patch is due to drop.

[Meat Man (Alfons)]

December 3rd. Your days are numbered, Kragg, Clairen and Ranno

[Plum]

Publicado originalmente por Meat Man (Alfons):

December 3rd. Your days are numbered, Kragg, Clairen and Ranno

Clairen isnt getting touched im pretty sure, fleet and kragg are getting the biggest hits (almost positive)

[Agreus]

When I saw that new skin I first thought "cool a slash reference" but now it kind of reminds me of Dr. Teeth from the electric mayham just less colorfull. Must be the beard.

[ShayZ]

If Clairen gets hit it will be in such a way that is a nerf to low level play and a buff to high level Clairen play. (Smaller tip but EVEN MORE stun or something.)

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Publicado originalmente por ShayZ:

If Clairen gets hit it will be in such a way that is a nerf to low level play and a buff to high level Clairen play. (Smaller tip but EVEN MORE stun or something.)

Could be bigger tip, less stun. Thats a buff to all levels and a nerf at the same time but I don't know if it would be good, I dont really play her.







Also, this Kragg skin is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fire. Idk if it makes sense to buy it pre Kragg nerf though lol

[Meat Man (Alfons)]

Publicado originalmente por Arxya:

Publicado originalmente por Meat Man (Alfons):

December 3rd. Your days are numbered, Kragg, Clairen and Ranno

Clairen isnt getting touched im pretty sure, fleet and kragg are getting the biggest hits (almost positive)

I doubt Fleet will get a bigger change. Many people rate her high midtier or lower hightier. Many people think she's obnoxious but she aint no Kragg and she aint no Ranno

Clairen is probably getting a change just because getting hit by the most nonsensical tipper hitboxes doesnt sit right lol, I look through recordings with matches againt Clairen and see a lot of stupid looking tippers that look like they're inside you, mostly from nair and backair. Many of which look like complete accidents

[Ereson]

Common consensus among pros is that Maypul, Kragg, and Wrastor are the most OP characters right now, so I imagine they will be toned down a bit. Then Loxodont is the only one that seems like he could use a few buffs.

I'm sure everyone will get small tweaks, but those are the ones that will probably receive the biggest changes.

[Meat Man (Alfons)]

Publicado originalmente por Ereson:

Common consensus among pros is that Maypul, Kragg, and Wrastor are the most OP characters right now, so I imagine they will be toned down a bit. Then Loxodont is the only one that seems like he could use a few buffs.

I'm sure everyone will get small tweaks, but those are the ones that will probably receive the biggest changes.

I swear Maypul has the most divisive rating because some rate her as good, other as the worst

[Ereson]

Publicado originalmente por Meat Man (Alfons):

I swear Maypul has the most divisive rating because some rate her as good, other as the worst

Yeah, because in the hands of a newcomer, she is incredibly bad. Recovery without her tether is pretty bad, she's fairly light, and her strong attacks can be hard to KO with. Once you learn to play her optimally, especially when you learn to properly return to stage with the tether, and killing with the tether, she's extremely broken.

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Publicado originalmente por Ereson:

Publicado originalmente por Meat Man (Alfons):

I swear Maypul has the most divisive rating because some rate her as good, other as the worst

Yeah, because in the hands of a newcomer, she is incredibly bad. Recovery without her tether is pretty bad, she's fairly light, and her strong attacks can be hard to KO with. Once you learn to play her optimally, especially when you learn to properly return to stage with the tether, and killing with the tether, she's extremely broken.

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You cant kill with tether in this game, which is why she is considered bad at the high level. You have to have terrible di to ever die from tether up air.

Lately most pros are rating maypul bottom 3, usually lower than lox btw (at least the high rated people I watch) also, you forgot ranno. Ranno, wrastor, kragg are who I see in peoples top 3

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Publicado originalmente por Meat Man (Alfons):

Publicado originalmente por Arxya:

Clairen isnt getting touched im pretty sure, fleet and kragg are getting the biggest hits (almost positive)

I doubt Fleet will get a bigger change. Many people rate her high midtier or lower hightier. Many people think she's obnoxious but she aint no Kragg and she aint no Ranno

Clairen is probably getting a change just because getting hit by the most nonsensical tipper hitboxes doesnt sit right lol, I look through recordings with matches againt Clairen and see a lot of stupid looking tippers that look like they're inside you, mostly from nair and backair. Many of which look like complete accidents

Fleet has won every major tournament in the last 2 weeks. We had 4 fleets in top 8 of dont park.

I dont think they are too insane, but they are essentially the heaviest character in the game due to floaty coding and are very campy/oppressive when whifff punishing.

Also I heard they might tweak recoveries/ledge this patch!

[Meat Man (Alfons)]

Publicado originalmente por Arxya:

Publicado originalmente por Meat Man (Alfons):

I doubt Fleet will get a bigger change. Many people rate her high midtier or lower hightier. Many people think she's obnoxious but she aint no Kragg and she aint no Ranno

Clairen is probably getting a change just because getting hit by the most nonsensical tipper hitboxes doesnt sit right lol, I look through recordings with matches againt Clairen and see a lot of stupid looking tippers that look like they're inside you, mostly from nair and backair. Many of which look like complete accidents

Fleet has won every major tournament in the last 2 weeks. We had 4 fleets in top 8 of dont park.

I dont think they are too insane, but they are essentially the heaviest character in the game due to floaty coding and are very campy/oppressive when whifff punishing.

I think CakeAssault (the fleet that wins everything in question) is just built different more so than Fleet is, and you can see even him struggle in the Clairen matchup (which is what stops Fleet from being perfectly solid imo). She's the second lightest character in the game so she explodes easily

Now when I think about it, a Clairen nerf would be a huge Fleet buff, and a recovery nerf would also buff Fleet more since her main schtick is edgeguarding

[Plum]

Publicado originalmente por Meat Man (Alfons):

Publicado originalmente por Arxya:

Fleet has won every major tournament in the last 2 weeks. We had 4 fleets in top 8 of dont park.

I dont think they are too insane, but they are essentially the heaviest character in the game due to floaty coding and are very campy/oppressive when whifff punishing.

I think CakeAssault (the fleet that wins everything in question) is just built different more so than Fleet is, and you can see even him struggle in the Clairen matchup (which is what stops Fleet from being perfectly solid imo). She's the second lightest character in the game so she explodes easily

Now when I think about it, a Clairen nerf would be a huge Fleet buff..

Fleet lives longer then any character in the game by a large margin, had a fleet live to 233% in top 8 of dont park just the other day.

And it isnt just cake, there were 4 fleets in top 8 of that major the other day, tells you something.

Floaties need a rework, they never die in this game :(

[Meat Man (Alfons)]

Publicado originalmente por Arxya:

Publicado originalmente por Meat Man (Alfons):

I think CakeAssault (the fleet that wins everything in question) is just built different more so than Fleet is, and you can see even him struggle in the Clairen matchup (which is what stops Fleet from being perfectly solid imo). She's the second lightest character in the game so she explodes easily

Now when I think about it, a Clairen nerf would be a huge Fleet buff..

Fleet lives longer then any character in the game by a large margin, had a fleet live to 233% in top 8 of dont park just the other day.

And it isnt just cake, there were 4 fleets in top 8 of that major the other day, tells you something.

I think this is another issue that might be addressed in the patch which is the almost universal Marthritis where you either get your 80% aerial kill confirm or they live up until 180% and can only be killed by your particular kill move since most of your aerials never kill, so they just keep on racking up percentage with the lead and keep winning harder

Things like Loxodont fair like never kills so it becomes a game of weaving in and out of his backair when you're at high %, and Fleet is very good at precisely bait and punish whereas she struggles when she has to approach

[Plum]

Publicado originalmente por Meat Man (Alfons):

Publicado originalmente por Arxya:

Fleet lives longer then any character in the game by a large margin, had a fleet live to 233% in top 8 of dont park just the other day.

And it isnt just cake, there were 4 fleets in top 8 of that major the other day, tells you something.

I think this is another issue that might be addressed in the patch which is the almost universal Marthritis where you either get your 80% aerial kill confirm or they live up until 180% and can only be killed by your particular kill move since most of your aerials never kill, so they just keep on racking up percentage with the lead and keep winning harder

Things like Loxodont fair like never kills so it becomes a game of weaving in and out of his backair when you're at high %, and Fleet is very good at precisely bait and punish whereas she struggles when she has to approach

Exactly, and this is really only an issue for floaties. Fast fallers if they dont die at 110, die at 130-150. Floaties if they dont die at 80, die at 180-200%. Raises fleet stocks a lot especially since she can recover better than anyone