Fleet is not fun to fight against

[Horseman]

Almost all characters have a mixture of enjoyment for the player, and the opponent. When I play against Fleet, I just find myself wanting to go play a different game altogether

[Agreus]

What specific problem do you have with her ? Maybe I or someone else can help.
I will admit beforehand that fleet is one of the more annoying enemys together with clairen.

[Gray Grim]

Fleet feels like she plays her own game. She has one of the best specials in the entire game and seems to be effective at any range. She seems to be the character I play against the most, and my games seems to slow down when matched against her. It seems like the only way to counter her completely is to have a mastery of parry.

[ZooL]

fleet is actually one of the few chars in the roster with distinct strengths and weaknesses in the game. where as other chars like ranno, zetter etc are just good at everything. So in order to beat fleet you actually need to learn the match up instead of just playing like you usually do. i think thats just hard for new players to understand and apply.

[Gray Grim]

Publicado originalmente por ZooL:

fleet is actually one of the few chars in the roster with distinct strengths and weaknesses in the game. where as other chars like ranno, zetter etc are just good at everything. So in order to beat fleet you actually need to learn the match up instead of just playing like you usually do. i think thats just hard for new players to understand and apply.

I have no idea what these strengths and weaknesses you are referring to. I had no idea how Fleet worked until after watching the character video. Even then it's not something I can just easily pick up on when playing a match. She's just super frustrating to play against. She's not even close to broken. Fleet's tools are just flat out annoying to play against compared to the rest of the cast which was OP's main point.

[Arc]

Publicado originalmente por ZooL:

fleet is actually one of the few chars in the roster with distinct strengths and weaknesses in the game. where as other chars like ranno, zetter etc are just good at everything. So in order to beat fleet you actually need to learn the match up instead of just playing like you usually do. i think thats just hard for new players to understand and apply.

No one said she's hard.
They said she's annoying.

[Many-Named]

come on man are you really gonna complain about the character without even tellings us what the matchup is?

[ZooL]

Publicado originalmente por Arc:

Publicado originalmente por ZooL:

fleet is actually one of the few chars in the roster with distinct strengths and weaknesses in the game. where as other chars like ranno, zetter etc are just good at everything. So in order to beat fleet you actually need to learn the match up instead of just playing like you usually do. i think thats just hard for new players to understand and apply.

No one said she's hard.
They said she's annoying.

i would argue every char is annoying to fight against depending on the play style. i have seen wrastors camp half the time, whenever their slip stream was on cool down because they missed. i have seen zetters only spam fire balls and retreat when it missed until the time runs out etc.

[Gray Grim]

Publicado originalmente por ZooL:

Publicado originalmente por Arc:

No one said she's hard.
They said she's annoying.

i would argue every char is annoying to fight against depending on the play style. i have seen wrastors camp half the time, whenever their slip stream was on cool down because they missed. i have seen zetters only spam fire balls and retreat when it missed until the time runs out etc.

I can't argue with that. Any character can technically be pretty obnoxious.

[Gray Grim]

Publicado originalmente por Many-Named:

come on man are you really gonna complain about the character without even tellings us what the matchup is?

Why does that matter? You can still have a advantageous matchup and still find something annoying. I'm allowed to not like fighting the character. And the same can be said about the rest of the roster depending on who you ask.

[Horseman]

Publicado originalmente por Gray Grim:

Publicado originalmente por Many-Named:

come on man are you really gonna complain about the character without even tellings us what the matchup is?

Why does that matter? You can still have a advantageous matchup and still find something annoying. I'm allowed to not like fighting the character. And the same can be said about the rest of the roster depending on who you ask.

Finally someone who can comprehend a difference between "this is too easy/hard" and "This is just annoying"

[ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2]

Publicado originalmente por ZooL:

fleet is actually one of the few chars in the roster with distinct strengths and weaknesses in the game. where as other chars like ranno, zetter etc are just good at everything. So in order to beat fleet you actually need to learn the match up instead of just playing like you usually do. i think thats just hard for new players to understand and apply.

I think having to switch up your playstyle to do something you find unfun is always annoying. It’s the main reason I absolutely hated kragg in roa1. Sure I could’ve easily one if I just waited a ledge and maybe parried, but that’s boring, I want to do funny off stage things. Kragg didn’t let me do that, so I didn’t like him. Same applies to fleet here

[ZooL]

Publicado originalmente por ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

Publicado originalmente por ZooL:

fleet is actually one of the few chars in the roster with distinct strengths and weaknesses in the game. where as other chars like ranno, zetter etc are just good at everything. So in order to beat fleet you actually need to learn the match up instead of just playing like you usually do. i think thats just hard for new players to understand and apply.

I think having to switch up your playstyle to do something you find unfun is always annoying. It’s the main reason I absolutely hated kragg in roa1. Sure I could’ve easily one if I just waited a ledge and maybe parried, but that’s boring, I want to do funny off stage things. Kragg didn’t let me do that, so I didn’t like him. Same applies to fleet here

then you should not play fighting games xD
they are all about adapting to the match up and the habits of your opponent.

[ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2]

Publicado originalmente por ZooL:

Publicado originalmente por ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

I think having to switch up your playstyle to do something you find unfun is always annoying. It’s the main reason I absolutely hated kragg in roa1. Sure I could’ve easily one if I just waited a ledge and maybe parried, but that’s boring, I want to do funny off stage things. Kragg didn’t let me do that, so I didn’t like him. Same applies to fleet here

then you should not play fighting games xD
they are all about adapting to the match up and the habits of your opponent.

They’re all about having fun. If a character in a fighting game isn’t fun to fight against, they aren’t a well designed character.

[Feritas]

Well, Clairen is never fun to fight against with this incomprehensible tipper that hits whenever it really shouldnt.

[epic gamer]

my aim is true