Shield Sucks + Why Is Clairen Like This

[Kenn]

Master Clairen in Rivals 1 here to say they ruined her and i cant comprehend why

all of her normals hitboxes with the exception of seemingly dsmash and usmash have hitboxes that are smaller than her sword that makes moves go through people constantly (especially her fsmash), her up air is just bad now. Her grab special as well has been gutted by virtue of it being turned into a grab special, combo routes are all worse, ok at low to mid percent and useless at high percents it seems, and obviously it cant be done in the air; she never had Marth syndrome in rivals 1 but now she has it in this game for days. Meanwhile all the returning characters are just as good as they used to be more or less. Pls fix

also loxidont is cringe

PS: i feel the same as a lot of people, shield is very frustrating and in my opinion, moves rivals away from what made it special in the first place, and makes it feel more like smash

[Artawi]

i hate her dash attack so much, like if i accidently dash attack it just goes through people because its such a speciifc hit box but i feel like no other characters have this issue, her dash attack i think is just the worst in the game

[ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2]

I believe that Clairen could have used some sort of range nerf but making hit boxes dishonest is not the way to go. Just make the sword shorter or give her some weaker tools. Shields are something im not really used to so I can’t say if they’re objectively good or bad. But I can say that rivals 1’s grounded combo game has been butchered because now people can shield out of hitstun and counter attack, which sucks because I always played with a roll-read playstyle, but now no one has a reason to roll.

[Kenn]

Originally posted by ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

I believe that Clairen could have used some sort of range nerf but making hit boxes dishonest is not the way to go. Just make the sword shorter or give her some weaker tools. Shields are something im not really used to so I can’t say if they’re objectively good or bad. But I can say that rivals 1’s grounded combo game has been butchered because now people can shield out of hitstun and counter attack, which sucks because I always played with a roll-read playstyle, but now no one has a reason to roll.

this ones definitely a me problem but i keep trying to tech roll in the same situations as ROA1 and it doesnt work a lot of the time and its been messing me up lol

[Lungs]

Originally posted by Artawi:

i hate her dash attack so much, like if i accidently dash attack it just goes through people because its such a speciifc hit box but i feel like no other characters have this issue, her dash attack i think is just the worst in the game

is it just her? Im not a huge fan of how easy it is to do dash attacks on accident. iIve been learning how to dash jab and dash d-tilt as well as use her dash attack, but id rather not have to yknow? I feel as though if i am not currently pressing a left or right, it should just do the attack as fast as the animations allow.

[Lungs]

ill say im fairly early into the game and couldnt jive with Rivals 1, but the shields seem fine to me. Ive been using them to pretty good effect, other than standing still when im trying to grab cause im not used to the buttons yet.


Ive basically only played Clairen but Im really enjoying her. She's not exactly Ult Roy but shes got enough that Im satisfied with her. I like her drag down fast Nair into reads. Though I should mention, Im not really a fan of true combos being the "end all be all" (my FGC journey has been a STRUGGLE) in general so reading their movements, covering options, and punishing predictability is well aligned with how I like to play.

[Artawi]

Originally posted by Lungs:

Originally posted by Artawi:

i hate her dash attack so much, like if i accidently dash attack it just goes through people because its such a speciifc hit box but i feel like no other characters have this issue, her dash attack i think is just the worst in the game

is it just her? Im not a huge fan of how easy it is to do dash attacks on accident. iIve been learning how to dash jab and dash d-tilt as well as use her dash attack, but id rather not have to yknow? I feel as though if i am not currently pressing a left or right, it should just do the attack as fast as the animations allow.

what i meant is that the dash attack on her kinda just sucks compared to everyone else, its such a whiff dash attack thats so devastating if you do it by accident instead of a tilt

[No Fox Given]

Lox is based. Clairen is cringe.

[Goblin]

The hit box is dishonest. I'd rather then sword be shorter and accurate. So I actually know what I'm working with. Or the same length it was in rivals one