They need to fix camping, defense is op and some stages are massive.

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Orcane, zetter, forsburn, elephant all can just refuse to approach only trying to punish your end lag while constantly dealing damage the entire time.

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Messaggio originale di ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

Messaggio originale di Arxya:

Disagree, havent met anyone other then you say they arent too big. You can fit at minimum 4 small stages on some of these large "1v1" stages.

Stages are a part of the gameplay, they help dictate the pace.

we were literally both talking in a discussion thread titled "Why are all the stages so small?" earlier today

Stages, not all stages, you're missing the fact that it is only 3-4 massive stages and 6 ish normal stages (ie small)

[Umbreon™]

Messaggio originale di ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

Messaggio originale di Arxya:

Disagree, havent met anyone other then you say they arent too big. You can fit at minimum 4 small stages on some of these large "1v1" stages.

Stages are a part of the gameplay, they help dictate the pace.

also just hosted a little poll in the roa2 discord server asking if the stages were too big or too small. 82% sided with me

discord regulars are generally not the kind of people you want to rely on to validate opinions. It really doesn't make yours more valid

[ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2]

Messaggio originale di Umbreon™:

Messaggio originale di ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

also just hosted a little poll in the roa2 discord server asking if the stages were too big or too small. 82% sided with me

discord regulars are generally not the kind of people you want to rely on to validate opinions. It really doesn't make yours more valid

Any amount of evidence is better than no evidence at all

[SneakySpooks]

Messaggio originale di ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

Messaggio originale di Arxya:

We have 3-4 small stages out of how many? We have some massive stages that are 3-4 times the size of the smaller stages.

Nah dude the stages aren’t the issue. The stages in roa1 were twice as big and the matches were still fast and interesting. The game is campy, but its the fault of the general slowness of the game, not the stages.

The game isn't slow or campy. Watch any high level gameplay and that'll become immediately apparent. At a lower level, defensive play may be more common and you need to learn how to counter it. That's not the game's fault, it's just a skill issue.

[ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2]

Messaggio originale di SneakySpooks:

Messaggio originale di ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

Nah dude the stages aren’t the issue. The stages in roa1 were twice as big and the matches were still fast and interesting. The game is campy, but its the fault of the general slowness of the game, not the stages.

The game isn't slow or campy. Watch any high level gameplay and that'll become immediately apparent. At a lower level, defensive play may be more common and you need to learn how to counter it. That's not the game's fault, it's just a skill issue.

And then compare that to even mid level gameplay from the first game and the issue becomes immediately apparent. The game is just slower than the first and by quite a fair margin

[Umbreon™]

Messaggio originale di ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

Messaggio originale di Umbreon™:

discord regulars are generally not the kind of people you want to rely on to validate opinions. It really doesn't make yours more valid

Any amount of evidence is better than no evidence at all

it's highly biased though. Literally manufactured at that point

[ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2]

Messaggio originale di Umbreon™:

Messaggio originale di ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

Any amount of evidence is better than no evidence at all

it's highly biased though. Literally manufactured at that point

how so? I asked in the general roa2 discussion server "are the stages in rivals 2 too big or too small", no context, no nothing. Where's the bias? Is it because its a group of people who are big enough fans of the game to join the server and discuss? Is it because they know what they're talking about even ever so slightly more than a new player? Trust me, some of the people in that server are really really bad, and some are really good. It was as diverse of a poll you were going to find for how easy and quick it was.
82% voted no, 18% said yes.
Is there a chance that some thought the stages were just right but were more inclined to vote small because they thought it leaned more than way than too big, sure, but the argument being made by them is that the stages are too big, and mine is that they're too small, so meeting in the middle helps to prove neither argument. They said they've met nobody who's said the stages aren't to big, and this evidence helps to prove that incorrect by saying that 82% of players are more inclined to say they are too small than agree with them. What else do you want from me? To have me individually ask every single roa2 player their thoughts?
You gotta understand not all evidence comes from in depth research and articles.

[Agreus]

Messaggio originale di ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

Messaggio originale di Umbreon™:

it's highly biased though. Literally manufactured at that point

how so? I asked in the general roa2 discussion server "are the stages in rivals 2 too big or too small", no context, no nothing. Where's the bias? Is it because its a group of people who are big enough fans of the game to join the server and discuss? Is it because they know what they're talking about even ever so slightly more than a new player? Trust me, some of the people in that server are really really bad, and some are really good. It was as diverse of a poll you were going to find for how easy and quick it was.
82% voted no, 18% said yes.
Is there a chance that some thought the stages were just right but were more inclined to vote small because they thought it leaned more than way than too big, sure, but the argument being made by them is that the stages are too big, and mine is that they're too small, so meeting in the middle helps to prove neither argument. They said they've met nobody who's said the stages aren't to big, and this evidence helps to prove that incorrect by saying that 82% of players are more inclined to say they are too small than agree with them. What else do you want from me? To have me individually ask every single roa2 player their thoughts?
You gotta understand not all evidence comes from in depth research and articles.

Besides all that where else should you ask ?
Reddit ? I dont know about the rivals reddit but in generall reddit is known to be an echo-chamber.
Steam forum ? lol.... I think I dont have to tell anyone here why thats a bad idear.

In the end it would need to be some place where people play the game so it has to be a site where the community is active.
The only question is which place attracts what part of the community.
I would say the discord is the most reliable when you want a pure gameplay perspective and even if not its as valid as any place.