Coins pretty stingy?

[Wizzle]

I'm like over 4 hours in and barely have 3.5k coins earned; barely enough for an icon. Is it all rewarded in ranked or something? I play primarily in private or casual lobbies, so that could be a factor, but still ~20 hours of playing for a color variant (not even a skin) seems pretty annoying.

[JC a bomb :O]

引用自 Agreus：

引用自 ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2：

Ik you’ve probably have seen me make this argument before, but imo if it was free in the first game it should be free here. Take palettes from the shop and remove the coin shop rotation and it’s already improved so much. It could definitely be so much worse than how it is, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be better.

Word of mouth sales is an interesting point I haven’t seen before, and I definitely know in my case that I’m never spending money on this game in my life, and that the shop system was one of the main reasons I didn’t advertise the game to friends

I know and I respect you for staying friendly to people in contrast to some others we could witness the last week or two but I think we will still disagree on that point.

My biggest problem in this case is simply that people pretend that they have to have whatever is in the shop, that they are entiteled to it or whatever while the great majority of people is completely silent when similar games with much much worse monetesation basically eat their money just to have a complete playable game.
Why not be thankfull for the devs that compromise on their monetezation to give us players something nice ?
Why always demand more from people that already are nice to us while letting people that dont care about us get away with worse ?

you have already given them money, its a transaction, what a corpo shill you are lmao, are you like 12?

[Vic Viper]

引用自 Pvt.Bob：

引用自 Maypulsirup：

coins and bucks have a 1:1 value, thats why they are so stingy, and while not everything can land on the coin shop, its still related to the real money currency

are you high? a skin is like 3000 bucks but 150000 coins

Skins are between 500 & 1000 bucks, sole exception being Chef Loxodont & Slasher Clairen at 1500.

I've only ever seen the 500 bucks skins in the coin shop (I think they mentioned 1000+ bucks skins are not in the rotation), and they cost 50,000 coins. That's 1:1.

[ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2]

引用自 Pvt.Bob：

引用自 Maypulsirup：

coins and bucks have a 1:1 value, thats why they are so stingy, and while not everything can land on the coin shop, its still related to the real money currency

are you high? a skin is like 3000 bucks but 150000 coins

It is 1 to 1.

1 dollar gets you 100 bucks, and 1 buck gets you 100 coins. So a skin that is 5 dollars is 500 bucks and is 50000 coins,

[JC a bomb :O]

引用自 Vic Viper：

引用自 Pvt.Bob：

are you high? a skin is like 3000 bucks but 150000 coins

Skins are between 500 & 1000 bucks, sole exception being Chef Loxodont at 1500.

I've only ever seen the 500 bucks skins in the coin shop (I think they mentioned 1000+ bucks skins are not in the rotation), and they cost 50,000 coins. That's 1:1.

how is 500 to 50.000 1:1? Did you fail math?
AH, ok NOW I get it, still, thats all by design and its complete ♥♥♥♥, you pay 30 bucks for a demo, there are no bonus modes, arcade is minimal at best, no fun customization of cpu battling or such. At its core, i like what they have, but its so minimal, and they cant even give you some recolours after 10 hours of play, that is abominable. If they want to be this stingy they should go f2p, reward those who bought in early. When im getting my ♥♥♥♥ kicked in by other players because im literally that new, Id like to atleast work towards SOMETHING other than losing MMR or doing the basic arcade for the 200th time

[Agreus]

引用自 Pvt.Bob：

引用自 Agreus：

I know and I respect you for staying friendly to people in contrast to some others we could witness the last week or two but I think we will still disagree on that point.

My biggest problem in this case is simply that people pretend that they have to have whatever is in the shop, that they are entiteled to it or whatever while the great majority of people is completely silent when similar games with much much worse monetesation basically eat their money just to have a complete playable game.
Why not be thankfull for the devs that compromise on their monetezation to give us players something nice ?
Why always demand more from people that already are nice to us while letting people that dont care about us get away with worse ?

you have already given them money, its a transaction, what a corpo shill you are lmao, are you like 12?

Look when the first thing you do is to try and devalue what the other person is saying through insults I have to think that you only want to stirr ♥♥♥♥ up instead of discuss so please refrain from participating in this discussion if you dont have anything usefull to say.

If you want to talk like a grown up I´m open to ignoring this first misstep of yours and start from the beginning.

[Vic Viper]

引用自 Pvt.Bob：

引用自 Vic Viper：

Skins are between 500 & 1000 bucks, sole exception being Chef Loxodont at 1500.

I've only ever seen the 500 bucks skins in the coin shop (I think they mentioned 1000+ bucks skins are not in the rotation), and they cost 50,000 coins. That's 1:1.

how is 500 to 50.000 1:1? Did you fail math?

You can trade Aether Bucks for Coins.

The conversion is 10 Bucks = 1000 Coins.

Skins that cost 500 Aether Bucks in the bucks shop cost 50,000 Aether Coins in the coin shop.

That's what we mean by 1:1. Skins don't magically get more expensive or cheaper from one shop to another, but Bucks are obviously a more precious currency.

AH, ok NOW I get it, still, thats all by design and its complete ♥♥♥♥, you pay 30 bucks for a demo, there are no bonus modes, arcade is minimal at best, no fun customization of cpu battling or such. At its core, i like what they have, but its so minimal, and they cant even give you some recolours after 10 hours of play, that is abominable. If they want to be this stingy they should go f2p, reward those who bought in early. When im getting my ♥♥♥♥ kicked in by other players because im literally that new, Id like to atleast work towards SOMETHING other than losing MMR or doing the basic arcade for the 200th time

You wouldn't have survived 2015 Rivals of Aether 1. It was way more barren than that. It's gonna take time for RoA 2 to get more content, but we're already at a much better starting point.

[JC a bomb :O]

引用自 Agreus：

引用自 Pvt.Bob：

you have already given them money, its a transaction, what a corpo shill you are lmao, are you like 12?

Look when the first thing you do is to try and devalue what the other person is saying through insults I have to think that you only want to stirr ♥♥♥♥ up instead of discuss so please refrain from participating in this discussion if you dont have anything usefull to say.

If you want to talk like a grown up I´m open to ignoring this first misstep of yours and start from the beginning.

If you need someone to phrase it nicely to you for you to even listen i think youre the one who needs to grow up. I am totally ok with someone calling me an idiot if me thinking we should get more coins or something for already forking over 30 bucks, so Ill call you an idiot for having no sense of value to time or money, I cant think of any other reason youd defend atrocious practices like this, idk maybe youre on their payroll, lvl 0 steam account and all

[JC a bomb :O]

引用自 Vic Viper：

引用自 Pvt.Bob：

how is 500 to 50.000 1:1? Did you fail math?

You can trade Aether Bucks for Coins.

The conversion is 10 Bucks = 1000 Coins.

Skins that cost 500 Aether Bucks in the bucks shop cost 50,000 Aether Coins in the coin shop.

That's what we mean by 1:1. Skins don't magically get more expensive or cheaper from one shop to another, but Bucks are obviously a more precious currency.

AH, ok NOW I get it, still, thats all by design and its complete ♥♥♥♥, you pay 30 bucks for a demo, there are no bonus modes, arcade is minimal at best, no fun customization of cpu battling or such. At its core, i like what they have, but its so minimal, and they cant even give you some recolours after 10 hours of play, that is abominable. If they want to be this stingy they should go f2p, reward those who bought in early. When im getting my ♥♥♥♥ kicked in by other players because im literally that new, Id like to atleast work towards SOMETHING other than losing MMR or doing the basic arcade for the 200th time

You wouldn't have survived 2015 Rivals of Aether 1. It was way more barren than that. It's gonna take time for RoA 2 to get more content, but we're already at a much better starting point.

I think were on the same side atleast, sorry for being so angry but I want to like this game but honestly right now its almost DOA for how they chose to monetize anything, it doesnt matter if their first game was worse at first, this is another game, youd think they learned anything, but maybe they did learn that people will spend money no matter how unfair it is. I wouldnt ♥♥♥♥♥ if it was f2p, but now its FEE TO PAY, and I say a big ♥♥♥♥ you to them for that tbh :/ idk how they think NEW players will pick it up when there are no good tools for NEW players, they ask for money AND they got an incredibly stingy coinshop. FGC is already kinda niché, why would you make it even worse like this?

[Agreus]

引用自 Pvt.Bob：

引用自 Agreus：

Look when the first thing you do is to try and devalue what the other person is saying through insults I have to think that you only want to stirr ♥♥♥♥ up instead of discuss so please refrain from participating in this discussion if you dont have anything usefull to say.

If you want to talk like a grown up I´m open to ignoring this first misstep of yours and start from the beginning.

If you need someone to phrase it nicely to you for you to even listen i think youre the one who needs to grow up. I am totally ok with someone calling me an idiot if me thinking we should get more coins or something for already forking over 30 bucks, so Ill call you an idiot for having no sense of value to time or money, I cant think of any other reason youd defend atrocious practices like this, idk maybe youre on their payroll, lvl 0 steam account and all

Look you seem to have absolutely no manners or care about that so I will ignore you after this message I dont have time to talk to someone who never got over his edgy teen years.

The reason I´m defending this is becourse this is the best we will get und with we I mean gamers in genreal not only people playing rivals2.
People have to become realistic.
A company that wants to support their product long term has to have a constant flow of money.
The devs of this game have made the most consumer-friendly cash-shop that I have ever seen.
The reasons why its such a good shop I believe have already been discussed and if not here in one of the other x threads that discussed this.
For the 30 bucks we payed for the game we got the game and everything that will be released in the future for this game like characters, stages, story mode and what ever else the devs have planed.
If this is not good enough for you go play some other fighting game that costs 60+ and takes 20 bucks from you for some new characters and stages.

What I´m saying is: The devs of this game are extremely pro consumer in comparison to most if not every other example of the recent years and as thanks people demand more and more instead of saying thank you.

[FleshEater]

引用自 Agreus：

引用自 Pvt.Bob：

If you need someone to phrase it nicely to you for you to even listen i think youre the one who needs to grow up. I am totally ok with someone calling me an idiot if me thinking we should get more coins or something for already forking over 30 bucks, so Ill call you an idiot for having no sense of value to time or money, I cant think of any other reason youd defend atrocious practices like this, idk maybe youre on their payroll, lvl 0 steam account and all

Look you seem to have absolutely no manners or care about that so I will ignore you after this message I dont have time to talk to someone who never got over his edgy teen years.

The reason I´m defending this is becourse this is the best we will get und with we I mean gamers in genreal not only people playing rivals2.
People have to become realistic.
A company that wants to support their product long term has to have a constant flow of money.
The devs of this game have made the most consumer-friendly cash-shop that I have ever seen.
The reasons why its such a good shop I believe have already been discussed and if not here in one of the other x threads that discussed this.
For the 30 bucks we payed for the game we got the game and everything that will be released in the future for this game like characters, stages, story mode and what ever else the devs have planed.
If this is not good enough for you go play some other fighting game that costs 60+ and takes 20 bucks from you for some new characters and stages.

What I´m saying is: The devs of this game are extremely pro consumer in comparison to most if not every other example of the recent years and as thanks people demand more and more instead of saying thank you.

this is the most consumer friendly cash shop you have EVER seen? Lmao, have you only ever played Activision games and this game?

[Agreus]

引用自 FleshEater：

引用自 Agreus：

Look you seem to have absolutely no manners or care about that so I will ignore you after this message I dont have time to talk to someone who never got over his edgy teen years.

The reason I´m defending this is becourse this is the best we will get und with we I mean gamers in genreal not only people playing rivals2.
People have to become realistic.
A company that wants to support their product long term has to have a constant flow of money.
The devs of this game have made the most consumer-friendly cash-shop that I have ever seen.
The reasons why its such a good shop I believe have already been discussed and if not here in one of the other x threads that discussed this.
For the 30 bucks we payed for the game we got the game and everything that will be released in the future for this game like characters, stages, story mode and what ever else the devs have planed.
If this is not good enough for you go play some other fighting game that costs 60+ and takes 20 bucks from you for some new characters and stages.

What I´m saying is: The devs of this game are extremely pro consumer in comparison to most if not every other example of the recent years and as thanks people demand more and more instead of saying thank you.

this is the most consumer friendly cash shop you have EVER seen? Lmao, have you only ever played Activision games and this game?

I even had to google what games activision publishes to see what they do.
Instead of just making worhtless reaction posts that can be summed up to "LMAO ROFL LOL" try to talk to people, give examples, tell people why you think different.
All your are doing is try to rile people up and jump on the hype train but you bring no substance.

[Temmie ッ]

引用自 Vic Viper：

引用自 Pvt.Bob：

are you high? a skin is like 3000 bucks but 150000 coins

Skins are between 500 & 1000 bucks, sole exception being Chef Loxodont & Slasher Clairen at 1500.

I've only ever seen the 500 bucks skins in the coin shop (I think they mentioned 1000+ bucks skins are not in the rotation), and they cost 50,000 coins. That's 1:1.

引用自 ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2：

引用自 Drunken Hotei：

Y'all are whining about a reasonably-priced. amazingly well-made game that allows you to earn about the same number of items per character as are in the shop in terms of palettes and skins for FREE. This is on TOP of the fact that you can earn both in-game coins and even the bucks themselves for further skins from the shop (which are not the same as the ones you can earn from reaching level 45, for instance), also totally for FREE. What absolutely spoiled nonsense.

It's one thing to complain about lootboxes or pay-to-win or maybe even having items that are simply unattainable in the game without microtransactions, but anyone who thinks roa2 is money-grubbing because you can only earn a couple top-notch skins from the store for free in addition to the ones you get for progressing through what is essentially a free battle pass for each character isn't interested in the game itself. They just want to hoard skins and stuff they'll almost never use or find an excuse to cry about not being entitled to everything the devs make to keep their game alive without a significant amount of playtime.

If you actually cared about and/or enjoyed the game and not merely getting more and more aesthetics you'd forget about anyway, you'd earn far more than you need as I already have just from focusing on becoming a decent player.

The game has a loot box. It’s called the coin shop.

The coin shop is in no way a lootbox because you know what you're going to get. Could it have more items in it? Yes. But right now, since there are only like 100 things in the shop, having 10 of them available for coins every day is totally reasonably.

On any given day, you have a 10% chance you can get an item from the shop worth up to 500 RA bucks or whatever they're called. Don't like what's there now? Come back tomorrow.

And guess what? When they have more items in the shop, the coin shop will probably get bigger too. Games making bank and run by major studios like Fortnite make you pay for everything, and they're making hand over fist, and you STILL aren't guaranteed to even be able to buy a given item from the shop because the entire shop itself rotates. But hey, who still plays Fortnite anyway? Oh yeah, about 1.1 million players _per day._

RoA2's shop is already fine and will only get better. The only one stingy here (and childishly impatient) are the people kvetching like you about shop details in the first month of its launch.

[ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2]

引用自 Drunken Hotei：

引用自 Vic Viper：

Skins are between 500 & 1000 bucks, sole exception being Chef Loxodont & Slasher Clairen at 1500.

I've only ever seen the 500 bucks skins in the coin shop (I think they mentioned 1000+ bucks skins are not in the rotation), and they cost 50,000 coins. That's 1:1.

引用自 ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2：

The game has a loot box. It’s called the coin shop.

The coin shop is in no way a lootbox because you know what you're going to get. Could it have more items in it? Yes. But right now, since there are only like 100 things in the shop, having 10 of them available for coins every day is totally reasonably.

On any given day, you have a 10% chance you can get an item from the shop worth up to 500 RA bucks or whatever they're called. Don't like what's there now? Come back tomorrow.

And guess what? When they have more items in the shop, the coin shop will probably get bigger too. Games making bank and run by major studios like Fortnite make you pay for everything, and they're making hand over fist, and you STILL aren't guaranteed to even be able to buy a given item from the shop because the entire shop itself rotates. But hey, who still plays Fortnite anyway? Oh yeah, about 1.1 million players _per day._

RoA2's shop is already fine and will only get better. The only one stingy here (and childishly impatient) are the people kvetching like you about shop details in the first month of its launch.

Idc how friendly their coin shop is, everyone would be better off without it. No luck, just what you want when you want.

[FleshEater]

The event alleviates some of the stinginess.

[Plum]

引用自 codeorange：

引用自 nikki：

twitch drops are really nice for extra bucks, which you can exchange for coins. starter pack seems like a must from my perspective, since it gives you 20% more coins forever. i'd hold off on that if you're apprehensive and just wait for what the 'Rivals 3D' event will be like in a couple days.

wild that i paid money for the game and yet i have to pay even more to barely solve a problem they created.

You could put the coin items down to a 10th of what they cost and they'll still all take forever to unlock. Really looks like you've gotta pay real money if you just want more than one skin or four palettes on all your guys. Which like, what's even the point in being so stingy? It's not a f2p game. Is it to get people to play RoA 1? Where you can just mod that stuff in and much more?

Like I don't want to be a downer or anything but damn dude, I'm tempted to refund and just play RoA 1. It's one thing for a game to yet be fully finished and feature complete, I'm fine with that. But man this trend of greedy companies double dipping with a retail price and f2p cosmetic gouging is real bad tbh, big shame for the devs to follow suit in that trend.

good thing none of those things impact the game at all, so yeah. free items taking a little while to unlock, who cares? Im on hour 5 or something and I have enough coins for a few things, dont need to or plan on using them though, it doesnt change the game.