Quake 3 Arena's MP vs Quake 4 MP?

[PikaCommando]

Would like to hear opinions from those who played Quake 4 online in its heyday.

Basically, from what I've heard and played so far, Quake 4's multiplayer is essentially Quake 3's in every way save for 2 new movement options (crouch-sliding and ramp jumping), updated graphics, and different maps (with a few returning from Q3). Quake 4 was briefly the main star of the competitive scene when it was released and maybe a year or two after, but then it is eventually overtaken by Quake Live (essentially Quake 3 anyway), first as publicity during Quakecon and eventually stayed because it was the "latest" in the series as well as free, thus meaning more players to practice with (but that's beside the point).

So, objectively, which is the better of these two very similar multiplayer shooters (in other words, don't factor in the SP component, nostalgia, or the fact that no one is playing these days)? Does Quake4MP meet, fail, or even surpassed the standards set by Quake 3?

[kluader]

Quake 4 is definitely better. Movements are a master of piece. Strafe jumping is an innovation.