DONT PANIC (/yet/anymore/again!!). forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com is /offline/BACKtemporarily out again/Finally Back Again/But Screwed!!

[Lisias]

Guys,

Forum is back with a new theme, so we have something to complain about!

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Forum is scheduled to be down on Monday April 14th, 2025 for Maintenance and Migration. See the links on the post below for more info.

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Forum suffered an unfortunate mishap on a CSS update last Feb 22th, what rendered the visual pretty messed up.

Things are back to normal by now (Feb 23th, 8:00 Z).


Whatever was being done, it's finally done. Forum is back.

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However... An unfortunate change on a thingy called CSS rendered the Default theme... visually impaired . But a workaround exists, see here[ksp.lisias.net].


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**ATTENTION**

Another DNS change is ongoing, Forum will be out of reach for a few Hours. But **FORUM IS ALIVE**, using a dirty trick on a local DNS, I could post there:

https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/KSP-Forum-Preservation-Project/issues/14#issuecomment-2608560437

Be patient. Forum will be back in a few hours, when the new DNS entry will finish propagading and replacing old caches.

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Forum is back online!

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I originaly thought it could be a problem with CloudFlare due not being able to "dig" on cdn.cloudflare.com . As I had learnt the hard way, what I was taught about subdomains doesn't apply anymore, so... yeah. Forum is gone, the DNS entry for it on the NS from CloudFlare were deleted, indeed.

I will update this as soon as I have more information.

I'm biting the bullet and giving you the news as fast as I could to avoid panic: "forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com" is currently offline - as well Private Division, by the way.

My investigations pinpoints Cloudflare as the cause of the failure, so it's not the Krakens raining fire and suffering on us. yet.

This is the current DNS entry for forum:

forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com	CNAME	2879		forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com.cdn.cloudflare.net

When trying to access "cdn.cloudflare.net" I get the very same error page I get when tryng to get "forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com.cdn.cloudflare.net", that it's exact the same error page when I try "forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com".

I had problems with Steam and Bitbucket today. I think these events may be related.

I will keep things update on

https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/KSP-Forum-Preservation-Project/tree/master/Docs/News

[phoneticdecay]

Does this track with the 6 month extension running out?

I'm not bad at math's, terrible at adulting.

Seem to recall there being another month-ish of time but the details are fuzzy.

Whether it returns or not... thank you for your work on the preservation project and also in posting this so my searching resolved rather quickly.

[Lisias]

Originally posted by phoneticdecay:

Does this track with the 6 month extension running out?

Nope. We had at least until March more or less - but that extension was about the Forum's software support. Forum would keep working once the license expired, but without support or updates.

But for corporations, it's the same: they don't use anything without someone to blame if it breaks.

Originally posted by phoneticdecay:

Seem to recall there being another month-ish of time but the details are fuzzy.

It's absolutely unlikely, essentially wishful thinking, to consider that someone deleted the DNS entry for

forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com.cdn.cloudflare.com

by mistake.

However, I had faced this before. When Apollo Inc bought Yahoo, a few years ago, the new management shut down everything that didn't paid its costs, and this included YahooGroups.

It was an absolute devastation. But it was announced - they told everybody what was going to happen, and the active admins had time to backup all their data. Unfortunately some of the most important material didn't had an active admin (be by retirement, be by plain dying), and we lost decades of invaluable historical material comparable to the golden days of USENET.

So I had some hope that they had a plan, pretty small one at least, for the Franchise and so the costs of keeping Forum would be justified, or they would put the Forum on read/only for everybody with an announcement of good-bye.

In a way or another, I'm **not** mad with them, these Haveli guys. They gave it a shot, what's frankly a demonstration o good will for these guys. They are on this game for the money, after all - and they extended Forum's life for Christmas so we could say goodbye.

I was saying in Forum, and I will keep saying here: count our blesses. They allowed us to do proper closure.

[Manwith Noname]

Accessing the forum has been problematic for me for some time. I gave up long ago.

[Lisias]

Originally posted by Lisias:

It's absolutely unlikely, essentially wishful thinking, to consider that someone deleted the DNS entry for forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com.cdn.cloudflare.com by mistake.

And I gladly say that I'm eating my words.

Boy, I love being wrong sometimes!

[Lisias]

ATTENTION

Another DNS change is ongoing, Forum will be out of reach for a few Hours. But **FORUM IS ALIVE**, using a dirty trick on a local DNS, I could post there:

https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/KSP-Forum-Preservation-Project/issues/14#issuecomment-2608560437

Be patient. Forum will be back in a few hours, when the new DNS entry will finish propagating and replacing old caches.

[Skorj]

Originally posted by Lisias:

ATTENTION

Another DNS change is ongoing, Forum will be out of reach for a few Hours. But **FORUM IS ALIVE**, using a dirty trick on a local DNS, I could post there:

https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/KSP-Forum-Preservation-Project/issues/14#issuecomment-2608560437

Be patient. Forum will be back in a few hours, when the new DNS entry will finish propagating and replacing old caches.

Thanks so much for doing the heavy lifting here!

Is the wiki still up natively, or has that already been rescued? Hopefully ex-Annapurna will be taking an interest before the domain registration expires.

[Lisias]

Originally posted by Skorj:

Thanks so much for doing the heavy lifting here!

Thx!

Originally posted by Skorj:

Is the wiki still up natively, or has that already been rescued? Hopefully ex-Annapurna will be taking an interest before the domain registration expires.

Yes, but there're people archiving it in smarter ways - Wiki is licensed more permissively, I'm just doing it (the same I do for Forum) to have a backup plan if anything else fails for a reason or another.

And the wiki is online, by the way, https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/

Originally posted by Skorj:

Hopefully ex-Annapurna will be taking an interest before the domain registration expires.

The domain is secured until 2027. Rest assured.

IMHO the handover to the ex-Annapurna Gang is the reason for these hiccups. Forum is alive and well, besides lonely - anyone can use it by configuring a local DNS server and taking matters with their own keyboard.

I don't have an explanation for this second outage, but IMHO if they would be going to kill Forum, there're cheaper and less wearing ways to do it.

Lets wait and see what happens - or not.

[techstepman]

Just my luck....after 10 years I decided to come back to the game and as I was installing mods and was troubleshooting the forums go down...

[Pushin]

Бывает технарь, я уже дня три не могу скачать шейдеры для поверхности

[TomKerbal]

Is there a way to give a donation for them ?

[ftlparachute]

They're back now

[Richmountain112]

The forums are going down again. It only partly loaded this time.

[Lisias]

Originally posted by Richmountain112:

The forums are going down again. It only partly loaded this time.

Forgot about here...

They accidentally delete/made inaccessible some CSS files. The current work around is to select any other theme other than the default.

Details:

https://ksp.lisias.net/blogs/news/2025-0222_Forum-Default-Theme-Got-Screwed/2025/02/22_Forum-Default-Theme-Got-Screwed

[maru]

Originally posted by Lisias:

Originally posted by Richmountain112:

The forums are going down again. It only partly loaded this time.

Forgot about here...

They accidentally delete/made inaccessible some CSS files. The current work around is to select any other theme other than the default.

Details:

https://ksp.lisias.net/blogs/news/2025-0222_Forum-Default-Theme-Got-Screwed/2025/02/22_Forum-Default-Theme-Got-Screwed

Hmmm, I don't seem to have this option on my pages...

[phoneticdecay]

Keep scrolling until you see red / dark theme and select it.
Everyone will have the option. Finding it is the issue.

Originally posted by maru:

Originally posted by Lisias:

Forgot about here...

They accidentally delete/made inaccessible some CSS files. The current work around is to select any other theme other than the default.

Details:

https://ksp.lisias.net/blogs/news/2025-0222_Forum-Default-Theme-Got-Screwed/2025/02/22_Forum-Default-Theme-Got-Screwed

Hmmm, I don't seem to have this option on my pages...