Mk12-R Radial-Mount Drogue Chute Seem Worthless

[Yxklyx]

I had a minimal probe that needed radial mounted chutes and I was hoping I could use these smaller parachutes but even 4 of them made things very very dicey on Kerbin (16 m/s drop). I ended up having to add an FL-A10 Adapter just for adding an mk2 chute.

[=37th= minepagan]

Drouge shutes are meant to slow you down from supersonic velocities, so you can deploy main chutes.

[SievertChaser]

Do not use drogues without mains. Or use RealChutes, which have Combo variants.

[Yxklyx]

So can they actually withstand much higher speeds? Still, would be nice to have a smaller radial chute with the stock parts.

[SievertChaser]

Dunno about stock ones, but RealChutes are preset with Nylon mains and Kevlar drogues (and silk drag chutes for planes).

[MAD]

Got to agree
I was doing about 250m/s when it said it was safe to deply the drougue, I usually deploy my main at that speed.

[Aragosnat]

They might not be worthless. Just the types of crafts they should be used on is limited. For myself. I can see them being more useful on the very small light probes. Where the mk-16(?) snd the normal radial or not as practical due to the extra mass (Eve).

[Yxklyx]

Originally posted by Aragosnat:

They might not be worthless. Just the types of crafts they should be used on is limited. For myself. I can see them being more useful on the very small light probes. Where the mk-16(?) snd the normal radial or not as practical due to the extra mass (Eve).

Well yeah, that's what I tried and they're too risky for even that.

[Migz - DH]

Originally posted by MAD:

Got to agree
I was doing about 250m/s when it said it was safe to deply the drougue, I usually deploy my main at that speed.

That's interesting, because for me, the drogue parachutes say they're safe to deploy at around 500 m/s in Kerbin's atmosphere with both pods and aircraft.

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[Aragosnat]

Yeah. Tried a 0.5 ton craft on Kerbin. Needed 6 of them to slow down to 12 m/s. A bit to small. They might work better on Eve then Kerbin. So very likely they are underpoweed for what they should be.

[Migz - DH]

Originally posted by Aragosnat:

Yeah. Tried a 0.5 ton craft on Kerbin. Needed 6 of them to slow down to 12 m/s. A bit to small. They might work better on Eve then Kerbin. So very likely they are underpoweed for what they should be.

But, why would one choose to use a drogue parachute on Kerbin as a replacement for a real parachute? That's not what they're intended to do.

Some of their intended purposes are to slow returning spacecrafts in preparation for using a real parachute or to slow an aircraft during the landing process. For these purposes, they're great.

[Nerd^3(USA)]

if you're having problems deploying drogues or main chutes. throw 3 to 6 air brakes on your ship. they help immensely during reentry. they are effective enough to even slow you to subsonic speeds in the upper atmosphere. i'd imagine this will be nerfed in a future update.

[Aragosnat]

One to test to see what type of weight it can slow down under such conditions as well as quicker since we are on Kerbin and if playing Kareer mode cheaper. Two not all things need to slow down to 1 m/s while 1000 m up on Eve. Three they let you place moar parts on those small probe parts easier. Any weight saving = gain for Delta-V's.

For a weight saving of 0.025 and smaller part placement size then the normal radial. They certainly suck a lot more compaired to the Normal one with their 5.6 m (drogue) deployment vs 30.4 (normal). The amaziong thing is. The Mk25 drogues which weight a lot more 0.2 vs 0.75 (radial drogues). Only have a full deployment of 4.7 m.

But, looking at what I just realized myself. Is that drouge chutes are not worth using (at least on my craft and the way I fly & land them). The drogue nose cone one more so then the radial ones. With the Radial Chute being better at slowing craft down then the Mk16 and for an extra part moar effective then the mk16-lx with a saving is mass and cost. A.I.R.B.R.A.K.E.S. are a better choice then drogues. Since they act as radiators (not very good ones) and can be used while entering the atmoshphere well before for drogues can even be deployed as well as weight less.

@Migz: I so agree with you on their uses. But, most are likely not going to bother to learn how to use them properly. When their are easier solutions pressent.

[Zorlond]

Originally posted by Aragosnat:

A.I.R.B.R.A.K.E.S. are a better choice then drogues. Since they act as radiators (not very good ones) and can be used while entering the atmoshphere well before for drogues can even be deployed as well as weight less.

+1 on this. Airbrakes can also stabilize re-entry to insure your rear-mounted heat shield stays in the plasma, like fins can only with neglible effect on your initial ascent. They're also easily re-usable, if you happen to be visiting planets with atmosphere.

Just remember to turn off their pitch/yaw settings before you order the launch.