Give me challenges please

[Human]

I have a bit over 400 hours in game and I want some challenges thank you all for your challengers some I will try in the next week or so others well it will take a while

[Val]

desrtfox071 původně napsal:

Install RSS and RO + principiaa and try to just make orbit, or if you want a real challenge, do a moon flyby.

Don't forget kerbalism!

[desrtfox071]

dragon7402 původně napsal:

desrtfox071 původně napsal:

Install RSS and RO + principiaa and try to just make orbit, or if you want a real challenge, do a moon flyby.

Don't forget kerbalism!

I didn't even know about this mod. Trying it out now!

[Val]

RoofCat původně napsal:

I don't think RSS is that much of a challenge. Once you know how KSP works, it's just about adding more stages compared to stock. Increasing costs a lot.
Yes, you will have trouble reaching other planets. But that is rather a limitation than a challenge. It doesn't make game deeper or different. Math is still the same and so are methods used to launch and transfer. Use 4 stages instead of 2 or whatever. Space is scalable as long as you have got the money and your VAB is large enough. In real life the main issue is money. Trillions of it. In KSP it is probably the size of VAB and strength of connectors.

Also humans can't travel to Pluto yet. Not even to Jupiter. Distance, time, microgravity, health issues... want the game to tell that to you? What's the point of having a whole system if all you can do manned is Mun for now. Only probes so far to other places. Realistically, with life support, with current tech and money. Not sure it adds to the adventure.

"it's just about adding more stages"
Yeah you've never played RSSRO

[Val]

RoofCat původně napsal:

dragon7402 původně napsal:

"it's just about adding more stages"
Yeah you've never played RSSRO

so limited ignitions and "best before" fuels changed your launch a lot? Are you required to ride in a spiral now? :)

Yes it did. You have to plan launches more accurately and use engines that fit your mission instead of just slapping on a vector and going to duna.

[desrtfox071]

dragon7402 původně napsal:

RoofCat původně napsal:

I don't think RSS is that much of a challenge. Once you know how KSP works, it's just about adding more stages compared to stock. Increasing costs a lot.
Yes, you will have trouble reaching other planets. But that is rather a limitation than a challenge. It doesn't make game deeper or different. Math is still the same and so are methods used to launch and transfer. Use 4 stages instead of 2 or whatever. Space is scalable as long as you have got the money and your VAB is large enough. In real life the main issue is money. Trillions of it. In KSP it is probably the size of VAB and strength of connectors.

Also humans can't travel to Pluto yet. Not even to Jupiter. Distance, time, microgravity, health issues... want the game to tell that to you? What's the point of having a whole system if all you can do manned is Mun for now. Only probes so far to other places. Realistically, with life support, with current tech and money. Not sure it adds to the adventure.

"it's just about adding more stages"
Yeah you've never played RSSRO

I wouldn't go so far as to accuse the poster of not playing RSS+RO, but I agree with the sentiment. Obviously the math is basically the same - it's physics afterall. Saying that the math is basically the same though, is not very helpful and somewhat disingenuous in my opinion though.

For an example, and why I suggested just getting to orbit, or doing a moon flyby is because, unlike stock KSP, your launch facility isn't on the equator. Your planet has some tilt. The moon's orbit is also inclined relative to the solar system plane as well. And yes, all these extra complications (plus the real physics of principia) definitely changed my launches a lot.

Also, I agree that the use of limited ignition, limited throttle, ullage sensitive rocket motors and fuel tanks also made a difference to my launch strategy.

[CalmLlama]

I started building my first line of LF only SSTO planes because of RSS. It forces you to be more creative.

[SIeamLuki]

Try using RSS/RO and Remotetech.
First you can start to build a network around earth and expand it beyond the moon to even have a good connection without delay. Dont use any kerbals.

[CalmLlama]

ive always wanted to use a colonize, life support, RSS, maybe RO. For sure a good visuals pack.

[RunNGunGhost]

Make a fully working and accurate Halo Pelican Dropship which can carry other kerbals and possibly a game-accurate Warthog too

[Toastie Buns]

RoofCat původně napsal:

razor sharp dust

For Mars? It has an atmosphere. It'll be fine particles, probably really corrosive, but I highly doubt it'd have sharp dust.

If you'd have said Moon, then ♥♥♥♥ yeah I agree, that place is apparently a coal mine according to Apollo 12. I found it amusing that the dust rendered the lunar rover's dials absolutely useless.
I laughed a little harder when I read about Apollo 17 and their geologist throwing away a hammer that had been corroded into uselessness. I think he was also the guy that tripped over, scratched his helmet and got occasionally blinded by the sun

[Overclock]

try doing the ike 3 course and the jool V challenge wil an ssto, refueling allowed

[Human]

WhiteChocolate původně napsal:

Make a fully working and accurate Halo Pelican Dropship which can carry other kerbals and possibly a game-accurate Warthog too

I made a stock warthog it looks alike but not perfect and i posted it so you can try it

[George Kerman]

Install RSS/RO/RO-0 and:

1) Beat NASA in budget and time and have a manned Moon landing before '65 (year 15)
2) Get a probe into orbit around Mercury
3) Do a manned Mars landing and return
4) Do a manned Titan landing and return (no cryo tech BS, you gotta carry supplies for the entire duration). Also, no mining and refining CH4 on Titan!

On stock game:
- do everything you've done before but starting from a polar orbit around Kerbin (inclination 85-95)!
a) Mun orbit/ landing and return
b) Duna/ Eve
c) Moho/ Jool / Eeloo

Super bonus: also return to Kerbin from a polar orbit around these bodies :)

[RoofCat]

George Kerman původně napsal:

Install RSS/RO/RO-0 and:

1) Beat NASA in budget and time and have a manned Moon landing before '65 (year 15)
2) Get a probe into orbit around Mercury
3) Do a manned Mars landing and return
4) Do a manned Titan landing and return (no cryo tech BS, you gotta carry supplies for the entire duration). Also, no mining and refining CH4 on Titan!

On stock game:
- do everything you've done before but starting from a polar orbit around Kerbin (inclination 85-95)!
a) Mun orbit/ landing and return
b) Duna/ Eve
c) Moho/ Jool / Eeloo

Super bonus: also return to Kerbin from a polar orbit around these bodies :)

why would you consider polar orbit special? There are still the same prograde/retrograde escape rules, just the launch timing is important to get into proper direction. Or to wait after until it aligns. Or to launch in high orbit and ignore everything on solar scale.

Did you go for Saturn with all those assists Cassini did (2xVenus, Earth, Jupiter)? It's 7 years in one direction, how did your astronauts survive that? :)

[George Kerman]

Nope, only probes past Mars :D, because:
a) I'm not gonna wait from the 50s until almost present to get those perfect fly-bys. I like to beat NASA on budget and time, finishing every manned mission to the Moon in early 1953 with much less costs per launch (~22 000 Kerbal $ / one man landing). You can get 5t to Saturn directly even without upgrading the launch pad above 800t with the proper engine upgrades. Capture around Saturn is ~600 dV from low periapsis (atmosphere touching low). The annoyance is when trying to do fly-bys of all the moons on one mission. But I have another strat: I get my initial periapsis around the altitude of the target moon and use fly-bys to go low from initial capture (which can now be 1000-1500 dV). This way, I can land on the moons, I can even get a rover there. Almost all don't have an atmoshpere and the landings are Moon-like, slightly easier.
b) Those supplies wheigh so friggin much, man! And then again, there's a lot to be done in the inner system before waiting so many years.

I consider polar orbits special because you need more fuel and more careful trajectory planning.