Plane bouncing on runway, without movement.

[wop52]

I finally decided to dig into this game and learn it well, after years of owning it. My current 'hangup' is making my first plane.
https://i.imgur.com/Nt9il9O.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RQ6HfM2.jpg

After designing any plane. I press launch. My plane spawns on the runway and starts bouncing like crazy. It does not stop due to gravity. It just keeps bouncing like a car with hydraulic's. What could be causing this? I have searched the internet for answers but can only find people complaining about bouncing, during takeoff and landing. Rather than my situation where it happens before takeoff while simply sitting on the runway.
Thank you.

[Chibbity]

Enable advanced tweakables.

Right click gear in editor. Lower spring strength, increase damper.

(Gear bouncing is also indicative of poorly placed gear or an over weight plane.)

[wop52]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Enable advanced tweakables.

Right click gear in editor. Lower spring strength, increase damper.

(Gear bouncing is also indicative of poorly placed gear or an over weight plane.)

Thanks for the reply and advice. This feels like more of a glitch than some game feature that I need to build around. Even if my gears were placed in the worst possible spot. Wouldnt the bouncing stop at some point? This is a persistant bounce that never stop's.

[Chibbity]

The starter gear are a bit finicky/glitchy for sure.

They always have been.

[wop52]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

The starter gear are a bit finicky/glitchy for sure.

They always have been.

I wish i had a way of showing a video of this. This isn't just finicky. (like bounding around a few seconds and stopping) It is a nonstop bounce. It doesn't change pace. I cant even recover my vessal from the green button at the top of the screen due to it not holding still long enough.

I am trying to figure out if this is a game mechanic that I simply need to build around (unlikely) or its just a glitch in the games engine.

[wop52]

I think I know what might be causing it. I crashed a rocket into the exact spot, that the plane spawns on the runway. Leaving a black spot on the ground. I wonder if that effects it somehow. What are the chances!

[wop52]

I upgraded my runway and it didn't fix it. I am so lost on this.

[Chibbity]

Turning the damper up to max should fix it as I said before.

(Turning Spring strength down a bit helps as well, like 1/4 or so.)

[wop52]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Turning the damper up to max should fix it as I said before.

Yes I tried that after you said. I just forgot to mention it. It makes the bounce a little less but did not solve the problem. Plane spawn's, starts bouncing and wobbling almost as if its being hit by very strong wind. it just dances around the runway.

[Chibbity]

I just tried it in game, default settings; infinite bounce with a similarly sized plane.

Lower spring strength/max out damper; no bounce. Hitting the brakes or timewarping a bit can fix it as well.

Like I said, the starting gear are buggy; always have been. Some patches they are better, some they are worse. I think 1.4.4 flubbed them up a bit again.

[wop52]

https://youtu.be/v2hpcHG9fK8

Just posted a this. Didnt touch the sprint strength but the dampners are full. Did yours look like this?

Originally posted by Chibbity:

I just tried it in game, default settings; infinite bounce with a similarly sized plane.

Lower spring strength/max out damper; no bounce. Hitting the brakes or timewarping a bit can fix it as well.

Like I said, the starting gear are buggy; always have been. Some patches they are better, some they are worse. I think 1.4.4 flubbed them up a bit again.

https://youtu.be/v2hpcHG9fK8

Just posted a this. Didnt touch the sprint strength but the dampners are full. Did yours look like this?

[Chibbity]

Hmm, might be the odd gear setup? Your plane doesn't look overweight really, just two small tanks so 100 fuel right?

Typically you have either 2 rear and 1 nose (Tricycle) or 2 middle and 1 rear (Taildragger.)

Lower the spring strength as well, not all the way but 1/4 or a 1/2. Putting the brakes on or timewarping will help as well.

[wop52]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Hmm, might be the odd gear setup?

Typically you have either 2 rear and 1 nose (Tricycle) or 2 middle and 1 rear (Taildragger)

Lower the spring strength as well, not all the way but 1/4 or a 1/2. Putting the brakes on or timewarping will help as well.

I had 1 wheel on the front before. I put 2 on the front to help stabalize it but it didn't work.
I can tinker with those all day. But getting back to the heart of my question. Is this a glitch that just I myself am suffering? If so then I don't want to go down this long painful road of tweeking and trying every slider, only to figure out it is a problem with the game itself. It seem's like no one has had this issue other than me. Did yours bounce just as bad when you tried it earlier?

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by wop52:

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Hmm, might be the odd gear setup?

Typically you have either 2 rear and 1 nose (Tricycle) or 2 middle and 1 rear (Taildragger)

Lower the spring strength as well, not all the way but 1/4 or a 1/2. Putting the brakes on or timewarping will help as well.

I had 1 wheel on the front before. I put 2 on the front to help stabalize it but it didn't work.
I can tinker with those all day. But getting back to the heart of my question. Is this a glitch that just I myself am suffering? If so then I don't want to go down this long painful road of tweeking and trying every slider, only to figure out it is a problem with the game itself. It seem's like no one has had this issue other than me. Did yours bounce just as bad when you tried it earlier?

Yeah like I said, at default settings it just sat there and bounced infinitely. It's not just you. This is a long standing, and often recurring issue with the starting gear.

Spring Strength at .5 and Damper at 2 completely fixed it for me though, as it usually does whenever this happens in my experience.

I wish I could offer more help besides that. Basically you want to get the next set of gear as soon as possible. All the other gear is deployable/stowable. I've always had the suspicion that plays into this bug somehow. Because it only ever seems to affect the first fixed set of gear.

[wop52]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Originally posted by wop52:

I had 1 wheel on the front before. I put 2 on the front to help stabalize it but it didn't work.
I can tinker with those all day. But getting back to the heart of my question. Is this a glitch that just I myself am suffering? If so then I don't want to go down this long painful road of tweeking and trying every slider, only to figure out it is a problem with the game itself. It seem's like no one has had this issue other than me. Did yours bounce just as bad when you tried it earlier?

Yeah like I said, at default settings it just sat there and bounced infinitely. It's not just you. This is a long standing, and often recurring issue with the starting gear.

Spring Strength at .5 and Damper at 2 completely fixed it for me though, as it usually does whenever this happens in my experience.

I wish I could offer more help besides that. Basically you want to get the next set of gear as soon as possible. All the other gear is deployable/stowable. I've always had the suspicion that plays into this bug somehow.

Thank you. You did help. I have been working on this for 2 days and havn't gotten to enjoy the game lol. Now I can revert back to having fun. Will making those changes to the springs and damper's effect me when trying to land?

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by wop52:

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Yeah like I said, at default settings it just sat there and bounced infinitely. It's not just you. This is a long standing, and often recurring issue with the starting gear.

Spring Strength at .5 and Damper at 2 completely fixed it for me though, as it usually does whenever this happens in my experience.

I wish I could offer more help besides that. Basically you want to get the next set of gear as soon as possible. All the other gear is deployable/stowable. I've always had the suspicion that plays into this bug somehow.

Thank you. You did help. I have been working on this for 2 days and havn't gotten to enjoy the game lol. Now I can revert back to having fun. Will making those changes to the springs and damper's effect me when trying to land?

Not a problem, glad to help.

As far as landing; If anything it'll just make the landing softer and less "bouncy."