Kerbal Space Program

Kerbal Space Program

The new EULA, WTF Take-Two?
The following is taken from the new EULA


"Personal information is information that identifies you and that may be used to contact you online or offline. The Company collects personal information from you on a voluntary basis. When you submit personal information to the Company, it will usually take the form of:

Registration for Online Services, websites, jobs, products, contests, and special events;

Subscribing to newsletters or alerts;

Posting in or commenting on our message boards, forums, news blogs, chat rooms, or other Online Services;

Purchasing a product or services through our online stores;

Purchasing downloadable content, virtual items, or virtual currency for use with our software and/or Online Services;

Using "tell a friend," "email this page," or other E-Card features;

Requesting technical support;

Downloading demos, programs, or other software;

Participating in polls, surveys, and questionnaires; or

Otherwise through use of our software, including console products, mobile products, and personal computer products, and through the use of our online products or Online Services where personal information is required for use and/or participation.

The types of information collected in connection with the activities listed above will vary depending on the activity. The information we collect may include personal information such as your first and/or last name, e-mail address, phone number, photo, mailing address, geolocation, or payment information. In addition, we may collect your age, gender, date of birth, zip code, hardware configuration, console ID, software products played, survey data, purchases, IP address and the systems you have played on. We may combine the information with your personal information and across other computers or devices that you may use. Prize winners may be required to provide additional information for prize fulfillment.

If you use, purchase, or register for an Online Service through a third-party service such as a gaming console's network service, an internet based gaming service, or a social network website, or request that we associate a Company account with a third-party service account, then limited user account personal information may be transferred to the Company as part of the registration process and we may be able to collect information about your use of the Online Services. For example, if you purchase virtual currency through a gaming console service, that gaming console service will provide us with information to effectuate the transaction, including the amount of virtual currency purchased and a means to identify your Online Service account.

When you use an application on a Social Networking Site ("SNS"), you allow us to access certain information from your profile from that SNS. The information you allow us to access is affected by the privacy settings you establish at the SNS. For example, our Facebook applications may access and store some or all of the following information, as allowed by you, the SNS and your preferences: your "basic information" you have shared with everyone on the SNS; your profile picture or its URL; your friends list, your user ID number, which is linked to publicly available information such as name and profile photo; or other information indicated as part of the "Request for Permission" prompt from the SNS. Your agreement to share this information takes place when you "accept" (or similar terms) one of our applications on an SNS. Once your information is received from an SNS, that information is stored and used by us in accordance with this Privacy Policy. The Company is not responsible for the terms, policies, disclosures or actions of any SNS.

When you use Facebook Connect, OpenID or another multisite ID to log in to an Online Service, those ID services will authenticate your identity and provide you the option to share certain personal information with us to pre-populate our sign up form. Depending on your account settings, multisite IDs may also provide other information to us. Please check the terms of those services before using them to log into an Online Service. When you play certain software products published by the Company, information about your gameplay may be collected and transmitted to the Company through network services or any other internet connection method used by the hardware on which you play such games (collectively and individually your "Internet Connection"). See "What Gameplay Information Does the Company Collect?" below for further details."

for the modders

"USER CREATED CONTENT: The Software may allow you to create content, including, but not limited to, a gameplay map, scenario, screenshot, car design, character, item, or video of your game play. In exchange for use of the Software, and to the extent that your contributions through use of the Software give rise to any copyright interest, you hereby grant Licensor an exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, fully transferable, and sub-licensable worldwide right and license to use your contributions in any way and for any purpose in connection with the Software and related goods and services, including, but not limited to, the rights to reproduce, copy, adapt, modify, perform, display, publish, broadcast, transmit, or otherwise communicate to the public by any means whether now known or unknown and distribute your contributions without any further notice or compensation to you of any kind for the whole duration of protection granted to intellectual property rights by applicable laws and international conventions. You hereby waive and agree never to assert any moral rights of paternity, publication, reputation, or attribution with respect to Licensor's and other players' use and enjoyment of such assets in connection with the Software and related goods and services under applicable law. This license grant to Licensor, and terms above regarding any applicable moral rights, will survive any termination of this Agreement."


I know it's pretty much a standard at this point but it's still really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ disgusting.
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Drewskii Mar 15, 2018 @ 5:05am 
Can someone summarize this? I’m too lazy to read it all
BULLY HUNTER_69 Mar 15, 2018 @ 5:07am 
Originally posted by Your Uber Driver:
Can someone summarize this? I’m too lazy to read it all
Datamining
heuldoch Mar 15, 2018 @ 5:07am 
in short --> mimimimimimi...mummy....mimimimi
Chibbity Mar 15, 2018 @ 5:08am 
Lol op is late to the party, we already did this; no one cares.

Doesn't change anything, won't be changing, hasn't changed.

/Thread
BULLY HUNTER_69 Mar 15, 2018 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by Chibbity:
Lol op is late to the party, we already did this; no one cares.

Doesn't change anything, won't be changing, hasn't changed.

/Thread
I guess, but hopefully this will alert someone who missed it.
I had no clue this was even a thing until just recently, I've seen nothing about this which is really weird.
OldMemes.biz Mar 15, 2018 @ 11:51am 
Originally posted by Your Uber Driver:
Can someone summarize this? I’m too lazy to read it all

It's everything everything else has been doing for years and the OP is just getting paranoid over things that are old news and won't have any real impact on him that it hasn't had his entire time using most software.
Manwith Noname Mar 15, 2018 @ 12:14pm 
New century. Age of terminal capitalism.
The armored towers of multinational corporations rise above the ruins of the democracies that gave them birth.
OldMemes.biz Mar 15, 2018 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by Manwith Noname:
New century. Age of terminal capitalism.
The armored towers of multinational corporations rise above the ruins of the democracies that gave them birth.

Aww that's so adorable. You are so precious.
Trumpette Mar 15, 2018 @ 12:21pm 
I love when people wig out over TOS/EULAs.

Most of them have required legalese in them which usually has absolutely nothing to do with the product, its use, or how it even behaves.

Case in point:

If you use, purchase, or register for an Online Service through a third-party service such as a gaming console's network service, an internet based gaming service, or a social network website, or request that we associate a Company account with a third-party service account, then limited user account personal information may be transferred to the Company as part of the registration process and we may be able to collect information about your use of the Online Services. For example, if you purchase virtual currency through a gaming console service, that gaming console service will provide us with information to effectuate the transaction, including the amount of virtual currency purchased and a means to identify your Online Service account.

Just where is virtual currency used in KSP? It isn't.

Read the EULA and knowing what you know about the game pay attention to the relevent parts. If most of the EULA doesn't make sense like the above example; dismiss it as your standard TOS/EULA legalese that the legal department at the publisher's office requires to be put there to cover ALL possibilites whether they apply or not. This is what my employer's legal department refers to as "covering your apples."

But it is amusing to read someone responding like Dale Gribble to a TOS/EULA like it's gonna lead to MIB taking them away.
maculator Mar 15, 2018 @ 12:22pm 
Here we go again :D
maculator Mar 15, 2018 @ 12:26pm 
"Personal information ...bla bla bla -snip-
--> If you create a profil, link a profil etc. they will store your data, good luck loging in if they don't have your data!

for the modders

"USER CREATED CONTENT:
--> Content created WITH the game, like with the szenario editor.. NOT mods



There are 100s of post with the exact same content. So enjoy your little pointless rant (that is based on not beeing able to understand a text longer than a paragraph) before it gets closed.

Lord Barack Mar 15, 2018 @ 1:32pm 
Make negative comment and maybe Taketwo change Eula if sale fall
andylaugel Mar 15, 2018 @ 2:09pm 
Originally posted by maculator:
for the modders

"USER CREATED CONTENT:
--> Content created WITH the game, like with the szenario editor.. NOT mods
It's a bit more than that. Take Two asserts the right to take modded content from creators and use them however they like without having to credit or pay said mod creators.
maculator Mar 15, 2018 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by andylaugel:
Originally posted by maculator:
for the modders

"USER CREATED CONTENT:
--> Content created WITH the game, like with the szenario editor.. NOT mods
It's a bit more than that. Take Two asserts the right to take modded content from creators and use them however they like without having to credit or pay said mod creators.
Content created with the editor.
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Date Posted: Mar 15, 2018 @ 5:03am
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