How to remove "Chutes" backpack in space?

[Kilo_60]

IIRC 1.5 added Parachutes to the backs of all Kerbals...

Is there a way to remove them for spacewalks and on planets with Zero ATMO?

Thanks!

[ray.mcdonough]

But you are right. Hardly anyone in private or commercial aviation wear parachutes.

[Kilo_60]

Publicado originalmente por ray.mcdonough:

They have rapid deployment 'chutes too, so if you could get out the door, you would have a very good chance of getting a canopy as low as 1000 feet. Or even lower.

Who cares... Have you ever worn a chute pack flying a small plane???

If you did you never would!

[Chibbity]

Lol, I think we're getting a bit off topic here. (Although I am enjoying all this fellow "barn-stormer" talk lol.)

Is it silly for Astronauts to wear their parachutes in space?

Most definitely; it is.

[Kilo_60]

Publicado originalmente por ray.mcdonough:

But you are right. Hardly anyone in private or commercial aviation wear parachutes.

Because it would be uncomfortable as hell!

[ray.mcdonough]

Publicado originalmente por Kilo_60:

Publicado originalmente por ray.mcdonough:

But you are right. Hardly anyone in private or commercial aviation wear parachutes.

Because it would be uncomfortable as hell!

Navy pilots talked about building up your ass 'ass callus' from sitting on the hard chutes in ejection seats.

[ray.mcdonough]

Another Segue; In the early days of hang gliding, which started in Southern California, and really took off in the seventies, pilots flying from the 'E' in the Ortegas overlooking Lake Elsinore made fun of the first guy to wear a helmet and a belly 'chute. The guy with the chute got into a mid-air with a guy without one. Chute guy lived, non chute guy didn't. Within a few months everyone had helmets and parachutes.

[ray.mcdonough]

BTW, I have most of my flight hours in foot-launched hang gliders.

[Toastie Buns]

Publicado originalmente por Chibbity:

Lol, I think we're getting a bit off topic here. (Although I am enjoying all this fellow "barn-stormer" talk lol.)
Is it silly for Astronauts to wear their parachutes in space?
Most definitely; it is.

Nah. I liked how KIS has those little tools like balls so you can test them in different places. Way I see it Kerbals are dumb. Go test a jet engine on the mun! Well why not a chute?
You ever wondered why I make mine do such absurd things? It's the Kerbal way. Embrace the silly.

[Yuki]

Publicado originalmente por Kilo_60:

BTW Isn't that a sub-stratosphere record setting chute jump from a balloon? (...) Not a drop at an orbital speed in which any spacesuit in existence would burn off long before you were able to deploy a parachute!

Well some private space agencies sell tickets for sub orbital space fligths that pass beneath the "Baumgartner point". Is it space? Its deffy an actual EVA Suit though. And yes not quite practical for everyday use, but during landing- why not?

One thing is for sure though: May it be in ML, in a Cesna, a combat jet or a space capsule: You do not jump out and do not open your chute immediately at top speed. In case of high speeds you slow down thanks to your T-vel first.
Just like the chutes on a capsule itself. I open mine (KSP) usually in the last like 4km or so, not in orbit.
Even a rocket seat wont suffice if you try to bail from a jet at supersonic speeds. But you drop below that pretty fast. Potentially way too fast anyways.

Publicado originalmente por Chibbity:

I still don't think you could get the door open, we couldn't even get the window closed, the wind kept tearing it out of our hands. I wouldn't fancy my chances of survival in that situation even with a parachute.

Closing is also more difficult than opening to squeeze out.
Take it that way: Lets assume 300 kph. Thats actually pretty fast already, we aint talking about a landing anymore. Storms reach 120 kph+. Im piloting a FS Storch which does not have notable doors to begin with, but iirc a Cessna door should be at most half as big as an average house door? Opening such in a Storm is thereby an equivalent of a Cessna door at 240kph, round about. Add 25% and there you are.

I am willing to believe that even i could muster the strength to open it with my spaghetti arms without breaking a nail. Not easy, not something you do in a flight often or even willingly given potential damage to the vehicle. But in an emergency? Ya.

Publicado originalmente por Kilo_60:

Who cares... Have you ever worn a chute pack flying a small plane???

If you did you never would!

Yes, Tuesday ;)
They are actually very comfy seats of their own. More so than the standard build in seat. May depend on how much space you need to begin with though.

Publicado originalmente por ray.mcdonough:

BTW, I have most of my flight hours in foot-launched hang gliders.

Me too, maybe thats why im kinda used to this "seat". I made my ML license originally to be allowed to strap an engine to my back. And ever since i had to use its complementary chute (translation? They dont use a full parachute but a smaller round-cap usually)- i feel really uncomfortable without any.

And thats how Kerbals feel? They know you are going to throw them into their doom. So yes, psychological parachutes everywhere!

[klesh]

KSP is about doing whatever you want. Maybe I want to do a MOOSE re-entry, and bail from the command chair and parachute to safety. If you automatically removed parachutes from an EVA'd Kerbal in space, this wouldn't be possible. I don't know what the best solution would be. PAW button to remove and add chute similar to the remove helmet and neckring function recently added? Where does the chute come form in that instance? Granted, having chutes on at all times to cover some very fringe use cases that would far more rarely occur isn't that great a solution either. This is a tough one. EVA w/ Chute & EVA w/o Chute button on command pods?

[Chibbity]

A parachute model that didn't look like it survived Nazi Germany would be a start.

[Kilo_60]

Publicado originalmente por Chibbity:

A parachute model that didn't look like it survived Nazi Germany would be a start.

LOL so True!!!

[Enorats]

Publicado originalmente por Chibbity:

A parachute model that didn't look like it survived Nazi Germany would be a start.

I dunno, don't Kerbals find a lot of their parts in the trash?

[Chibbity]

Publicado originalmente por Enorats:

I dunno, don't Kerbals find a lot of their parts in the trash?

Not anymore.

Not after the whole super-boring, uninspired "part overhaul."

The days of Kerbals having any personality of their own are over. I won't be surprised when the next patch summary feature's a minor note stating; "Changed Kerbals to Humans."

[Chaotic Harmony]

Honestly i don't think them having chutes is that far fetched; but i would prefer if they only wore them while undertaking an EVA in an atmosphere. It makes no sense from a practical standpoint for them to be worn while in space; where it's just extre weight and things to catch on.

Then again; these are the same creatures that take barometric measurements in complete vacuum so i'm not sure practicality is an arguement xD