Haruuv or Molltair

[Atech66]

Who did you choose and why ?
morals? ramifications? strengths?
Ive been sitting on this choice for 2 days.. has as many possible draw backs as benefits
One might be poised to attempt a take over in our weakened state after the battles have been won... both have one main priority above this situation from talking to them
Using the dead is not going to be real popular i imagine considering the current situation.. but people may flock to a strong religious group seeing them as thier saviors and where does that leave us?
your thoughts on the subject?

[The_Mess]

Necromancers all the way!

They only want to raise the dead, which saves lives (zombie cannon-fodder ftw) and probably might know how to break the spells bring atherial's creations to life. Providing a means to deprive the atherials of their main forces, if not at least provide more damage against atherial corruptions and the undead.

Kymon's Chosen on the other hand are subservient to an elder god thing, and are religious fanatics to boot. As Lovecroftian horror (re-reading Charles Stross's awesome Laundry novels at present) has taught me, trust not religious cults, especially one's with previously unknown gods. Though I'll side with them once and once only on one of my more fire damage dependent builds.

[Atech66]

Yea i was thinking that as well.. they have one agenda above all else to reinstate their God to his Glory.. he even mentions it and thats what made me hesitate .. good point on the Necros using the resources up.. i wonder if they can still assimilate the undead back.. if they can then we would be sending them an entire army on a silver platter. But the fanatics would be a huge pain in the arse and try to take over im willing to bet .. if he was that impressed with their training and weapons that he couldnt choose and asked you to thats a bad sign. Necro lesser of 2 evils im enclined to agree

[Omenpapa]

This game already gave us a choice earlier if we want the younger arcane blacksmith, or the older normal bs. The benefits probably clear for most players, but basicly the game is asking you if u want more random spellcaster stats on ur items, or more physical oriented,warriorlike bonuses.

This 2 new faction sounds a lil similiar to me. Necromancers being the spellcasters, while the zealots/holy warriors would be the Chosen guys. So yea, since I'm playing an arcanist, it's obvious I want them spellcaster bonuses, therefore I chose the Necros.

[Atech66]

Originally posted by Omenpapa:

This game already gave us a choice earlier if we want the younger arcane blacksmith, or the older normal bs. The benefits probably clear for most players, but basicly the game is asking you if u want more random spellcaster stats on ur items, or more physical oriented,warriorlike bonuses.

This 2 new faction sounds a lil similiar to me. Necromancers being the spellcasters, while the zealots/holy warriors would be the Chosen guys. So yea, since I'm playing an arcanist, it's obvious I want them spellcaster bonuses, therefore I chose the Necros.

I didnt think of that .. good point.. i chose arcane because i figured better to fight fire with fire then steel. Has anyone tried the old guy and checked to see what he forges? im going to this next play through now that you got me thinking

[The_Mess]

One thing against the Order of Death's Vigil - are they still loyal to their founder? Given the powers of Aetherial's to warp flesh, Uroborook (sp?) might have well have been possesed or melded with an aetherial, and his disappearence dates to the possible start of the Aetherial invasion. So the Order perhaps is not the best of allies, but on the otherhand they have risen up to fight the invaders and due to seemingly not being found by the Inquisitors evidently aren't fans of those who abuse necromancy for power.

Thus if their founder were to reappear and order them to cease their struggles, I suspect much of the Order would not follow unless compulsion spells were used on them when they were recruited that force them to follow his words. But given his abilities, he would make for a most fearsome enemy...

[edit - used invasion instead of inflitration, Aetherial's likely had been working for quite some years to inflitrate the empire and gain control of key personal]

[Atech66]

Originally posted by The_Mess:

One thing against the Order of Death's Vigil - are they still loyal to their founder? Given the powers of Aetherial's to warp flesh, Uroborook (sp?) might have well have been possesed or melded with an aetherial, and his disappearence dates to the possible start of the Aetherial invasion. So the Order perhaps is not the best of allies, but on the otherhand they have risen up to fight the invaders and due to seemingly not being found by the Inquisitors evidently aren't fans of those who abuse necromancy for power.

Thus if their founder were to reappear and order them to cease their struggles, I suspect much of the Order would not follow unless compulsion spells were used on them when they were recruited that force them to follow his words. But given his abilities, he would make for a most fearsome enemy...

And that really does all sound conceivable as well.. so its a crap shoot as to who would be most worth the risks involved.. armed fighters well trained who believe themselves guided by an omnipotent higher power (alittle too close to reality today) or Necromancers who do seem to have a "code of ethics" as odd as that may sound.. I am going Necro.. I am more concerned with self rightous religious zealots than dark masters of reanimation.. Illuminati comparison forced into hiding after persecution taken in to account I feel for them to a degree.. lets hope your wrong about Uroborook :)

[Qarnij]

I went with the Order becuase the Kymon PR dude sounded like a ♥♥♥♥ :/

[Atech66]

Book of Kymon passage 1 " We have been tasked with the sacred duty to extinguish the last remnants of corruption and reseed the purified land with our progeny" when the Aetherial's are gone anyone not converted will be considered heathens and corrupt? i can see that happening.

[riv3rbird]

I don't trust the religious fanatics whereas the necromancers make a logical point so I sided with them. Undead army > a dead god.

[BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!]

Originally posted by riv3rbird:

I don't trust the religious fanatics whereas the necromancers make a logical point so I sided with them. Undead army > a dead god.

Dead god? Imprisoned god! Repent heathen!

[Atech66]

I think by who we chose we opened a can of worms for a future conflict.. and by think i mean hope :) those zealots are pissed and the necro's are already hated by them so lets hope we get to have some huge pissing match and kill em all :)) a man can dream. Adrenaline is cranked out we see we have no choice but to fight side by side based on the "The enemy of my enemy is my freind" rule but then after as the smoke clears tempers flare someone tosses a spell and BAM !! all hell breaks loose oh yea.. i can see that.. and me making mutliple trips to vendor to sell their prescious hierlooms i remove from teir still warm and twitching bodies as they are reanimated as our army MWAAHAHAHAHA wait im a good guy.. good guy is subjective i suppose.. im good to me :)

[BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!]

Originally posted by Atech66:

I think by who we chose we opened a can of worms for a future conflict.. and by think i mean hope :) those zealots are pissed and the necro's are already hated by them so lets hope we get to have some huge pissing match and kill em all :)) a man can dream. Adrenaline is cranked out we see we have no choice but to fight side by side based on the "The enemy of my enemy is my freind" rule but then after as the smoke clears tempers flare someone tosses a spell and BAM !! all hell breaks loose oh yea.. i can see that.. and me making mutliple trips to vendor to sell their prescious hierlooms i remove from teir still warm and twitching bodies as they are reanimated as our army MWAAHAHAHAHA wait im a good guy.. good guy is subjective i suppose.. im good to me :)

I noticed that when you choose a side the other side hates you in the faction reputation window. Also, one of the ways to gain reputation for either faction is to kill members of the other one. So conflict between the two sides seems inevitable.

The thing I'm curious about... is how it will work out in multiplayer. If two people who picked opposite sides play together.... what happens when they encounter members of one of the factions?

[Atech66]

good question

[Zantai]

Originally posted by BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!:

The thing I'm curious about... is how it will work out in multiplayer. If two people who picked opposite sides play together.... what happens when they encounter members of one of the factions?

Best experienced with PvP enabled. ;)

The factions will be hostile to whichever of the two pissed them off, while the other can do nothing to help (allies and all). You can create some interesting PvP situations though if you encounter both groups fighting each other and you have players that support both sides.

[BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!]

Originally posted by Zantai:

Originally posted by BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!:

The thing I'm curious about... is how it will work out in multiplayer. If two people who picked opposite sides play together.... what happens when they encounter members of one of the factions?

Best experienced with PvP enabled. ;)

The factions will be hostile to whichever of the two pissed them off, while the other can do nothing to help (allies and all). You can create some interesting PvP situations though if you encounter both groups fighting each other and you have players that support both sides.

Ha ha. Thanks for the answer I really appreciate it. Wasn't expecting a Crate response to my curiousity there.

Sounds like it could be a load of fun. Bloody friendship ruining fun, but fun nonetheless.