shaman talk

[Ginzo Force]

everyone is playing shaman and recommending shaman to new players

I'm playing shaman inquisitor

just found the runefinders spellthrower

I'm playing a ranged savagery, primal strike, storm totem build with full lightning and cold investment, all the constellations everything

runic bolts seems to basically invalidate savagery, as my build is all lightning and cold damage with constellation attacks and no bleed investment, interesting

runic bolts does 180 percent mainhand damage default, my 20 savagery does 154 percent mainhand damage

I'm thinking I can then refund a ton of savagery points and invest in inquisitor to get to shock and cold attacks in the inquisitor tree

talk about your shaman

[Faust Wither]

ritualist here, i have 31 pet, and i need more.

[Ginzo Force]

Originally posted by Faust Wither:

ritualist here, i have 31 pet, and i need more.

fun, are you using wendigo totem, I imagine that's a pretty sick combo

that or necro occultist is what I'm interested in playing next, but the wendigo totem is so insanely strong in theory to me that it's hard to pass up, maybe shaman occultist

[Gilver Redgrave]

Best Char i have played so far was a Shaman/Soldier with the Crossbow that gives+3 to all skills of both classes. Ranged Primal Strike with Grasping Vines felt pretty amazing. Soldier makes you pretty tanky too.

[Ginzo Force]

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

Best Char i have played so far was a Shaman/Soldier with the Crossbow that gives+3 to all skills of both classes. Ranged Primal Strike with Grasping Vines felt pretty amazing. Soldier makes you pretty tanky too.

true, bleed is good synergy, soldier gives you internal trauma I believe, so many options

[Tenebris]

as far as i understand since it's health regen meta and you tend to invest more into devotions that give surviveability, shaman fits in really well with his buffs and abilities, i dont really like it but it is what it is

[Volfogg]

Originally posted by Ginzo Force:

Originally posted by Faust Wither:

ritualist here, i have 31 pet, and i need more.

fun, are you using wendigo totem, I imagine that's a pretty sick combo

that or necro occultist is what I'm interested in playing next, but the wendigo totem is so insanely strong in theory to me that it's hard to pass up, maybe shaman occultist

I played blight fiend focused ritualist once. I ended up with 25k+ hp on character and two non-unstable 100k+ HP blight fiends that were blasting AoE for 6-digit damage per enemy.

Makes me wonder... Nemesis weren't a problem for him and skeleton key dungeons weren't a problem, even Grand Magus on Ultimate. So what's the flaw of this class? Perhaps celestials?

[Tenebris]

Originally posted by Volfogg:

Originally posted by Ginzo Force:

fun, are you using wendigo totem, I imagine that's a pretty sick combo

that or necro occultist is what I'm interested in playing next, but the wendigo totem is so insanely strong in theory to me that it's hard to pass up, maybe shaman occultist

I played blight fiend focused ritualist once. I ended up with 25k+ hp on character and two non-unstable 100k+ HP blight fiends that were blasting AoE for 6-digit damage per enemy.

Makes me wonder... Nemesis weren't a problem for him and skeleton key dungeons weren't a problem, even Grand Magus on Ultimate. So what's the flaw of this class? Perhaps celestials?

there isn't any flaw, summoners are op in this game for a matter of fact, they can easily do crate (if you dont know what that is google grim dawn crate of entertainment) and have no trouble, while most other classes require solid setup for it

[Safarel]

Originally posted by Volfogg:

Makes me wonder... Nemesis weren't a problem for him and skeleton key dungeons weren't a problem, even Grand Magus on Ultimate. So what's the flaw of this class? Perhaps celestials?

If we talk about ghoul ritualist then there is no flaws in this build if it assembled in right way, and he is one of the strongest build in game

[Faust Wither]

Originally posted by Volfogg:

Originally posted by Ginzo Force:

fun, are you using wendigo totem, I imagine that's a pretty sick combo

that or necro occultist is what I'm interested in playing next, but the wendigo totem is so insanely strong in theory to me that it's hard to pass up, maybe shaman occultist

I played blight fiend focused ritualist once. I ended up with 25k+ hp on character and two non-unstable 100k+ HP blight fiends that were blasting AoE for 6-digit damage per enemy.

Makes me wonder... Nemesis weren't a problem for him and skeleton key dungeons weren't a problem, even Grand Magus on Ultimate. So what's the flaw of this class? Perhaps celestials?

none, i love being powerfull. even without pet build i can switch to vitality damage that destroy anything. shaman have everything, health regen, damage absorbtion, resist reduction, heal, life steal, crowd control, pets. this is why shaman was really recomended for first time run. but right now i just want to have build that has alot of pets, wish there are more on helmet slot.

[awg]

I have started to play Grim Dawn with my brother and choose a Soldier for my main speciality. But I am interested in playing Shaman alternatively, and since I'm a new player I wanted to know how summons work in Grim Dawn: are they able to kind of provoke enemies so I could cause range damage with no need of running around?

[Neit]

Originally posted by Ginzo Force:

runic bolts seems to basically invalidate savagery, as my build is all lightning and cold damage with constellation attacks and no bleed investment, interesting

runic bolts does 180 percent mainhand damage default, my 20 savagery does 154 percent mainhand damage

I'm thinking I can then refund a ton of savagery points and invest in inquisitor to get to shock and cold attacks in the inquisitor tree

talk about your shaman

You are missing core difference between those skills. Runic Bolts give you pure damage. Savagery gives you damage, but also some support stats, like Physical Resist, Health Regeneration, and Offensive Ability. Those stats can be and usually are gamechanger in the endgame.

You can obviously build around Runic Bolts, shift points from Savagery elsewhere and it will work. Depending on your endgame build, you can get the stats elsewhere and it might be actually more viable. It's hard to say which one is better without talking about specific build.

Runic Bolts are, of course, great thing to have when building around classes without own autoattack replacer, like Inquisitor.

[Faust Wither]

Originally posted by awg:

I have started to play Grim Dawn with my brother and choose a Soldier for my main speciality. But I am interested in playing Shaman alternatively, and since I'm a new player I wanted to know how summons work in Grim Dawn: are they able to kind of provoke enemies so I could cause range damage with no need of running around?

sometime they tank enemy for you at some point it will keep the enemy target to them if you not casting anything, if you have so many of pets it lock enemy position in place by surrounding it. you need nature guardian skills (from spring maiden constellation) to make your enemy constantly targeting your pet, other wise it will enemy will always keep jumping on you especialy bosses while you doing damage.

[awg]

Originally posted by Faust Wither:

sometime they tank enemy for you at some point it will keep the enemy target to them if you not casting anything, if you have so many of pets it lock enemy position in place by surrounding it. you need nature guardian skills (from spring maiden constellation) to make your enemy constantly targeting your pet, other wise it will enemy will always keep jumping on you especialy bosses while you doing damage.

I was a bit overwhelmed by constellations, so I gonna note spring maiden and her guardian skills to remember this later. Thank you for information.

[Tsel13]

Originally posted by Ginzo Force:

everyone is playing shaman and recommending shaman to new players

I'm playing shaman inquisitor

just found the runefinders spellthrower

I'm playing a ranged savagery, primal strike, storm totem build with full lightning and cold investment, all the constellations everything

runic bolts seems to basically invalidate savagery, as my build is all lightning and cold damage with constellation attacks and no bleed investment, interesting

runic bolts does 180 percent mainhand damage default, my 20 savagery does 154 percent mainhand damage

I'm thinking I can then refund a ton of savagery points and invest in inquisitor to get to shock and cold attacks in the inquisitor tree

talk about your shaman

I have a level 100 Vindicator (Shaman+Inquisitor) in Hardcore Ultimate.
Primal Strike is good against groups, but not as good as Savagery in one on ones against Bosses.

Here is my build so far.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/gZwb6jjV

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3400249183

[Matthew]

Originally posted by Ginzo Force:

talk about your shaman

Which one? 🤪

To be honest, a bit burned out with shaman since it is my most played mastery by quite a bit. While waiting for the new DLC, I've been going back and doing some builds I've always planned on doing, just haven't got around to yet.

And one of them is still shaman. With Blazerush. https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7739

The interesting thing about this item is that it isn't normally worth to go high OA and crit with flat damage, it is better with DoT's. To not go into the math, basically speed and % damage have higher value per affix which is why most meta builds sit at low 3k OA. However, with Blazerush and upheaval, OA gives better damage returns and you can push it to funny amounts. You can't have all the things, so speed and % damage take a bit of a hit, but it equals out with 900% weapon damage hits.

I'm still going through ultimate with it and haven't done the post-campaign stuff, but it is rather entertaining. I just tank Kupacabra and chunk through his healing. Regular hero enemies get 2-shot killed if upheaval procs back-to-back. Buffed regenerator heroes don't do anything if they pop in a couple crits.