Dreeg's Reproach doesn't do its job correctly

[automatonomega]

I don't care about how the game does internal orders of operations, the damage conversion only works on Righteous Fervor, which is supposed to be a global buff. I'm not planning on taking any skills with native physical or fire damage, and I shouldn't be punished because of poor design.

[automatonomega]

Fine I'm reinstalling it lmao I'm high and wanna play it D:

[RodHull]

Originally posted by Norzan:

Since when this is a fact? The fact that this was the norm for several years means people actually liked it.

To be fair that doesn't mean that either. It simply means thats how it was, all we can say we know people enjoyed the overall game enough to make it a commercial and critical success. We cannot know how many enjoyed or did not enjoy that aspect really, if we are being honest.

And the fact they later changed it (as did POE) suggests a not insignificant amount of people wanted the option to skip it, again that doesn't mean they hated the feature just that a portion of the player base wanted the option added to choose how they levelled.

Originally posted by automatonomega:

To me, making people replay the same story 3 times on one character suggests there wasn't enough story or gameplay to make a full game out of it. It's lazy game design. I won't be moved from this point, it's lazy. You know it, I know it.

I strongly disagree, the core loop of D2 revolves around the 3 difficulties. It has entire tiers of gear and items which only appear on higher difficulties. It has nothing to do with laziness. In those days any game that lasted longer than say 40 hours was doing serious work. Most games even RPGs were designed as one and done affairs, outside of strategy games few PC action games had the replayability of Diablo and its sequel, and that was tied to its loot system. The levels were almost irrelevant.

Case in point D3 does away with this mechanic and instead sees you level up through generic procedural rift levels or hopping around the main story levels like a speed freak with ADHD, is this a better experience? Not really its equally grindy and dull just in a different way. Whether you enjoy the game is down to does the loot and gameplay overcome the rather tired levelling systems.

POE same story, it did away with its 3 difficulty structure over 5 (or was it 6?) acts and instead now has the same content stretched out over 10 acts. But you do still broadly repeat content, its barely any different functionally.

[powbam]

Originally posted by RodHull:

Originally posted by automatonomega:

To me, making people replay the same story 3 times on one character suggests there wasn't enough story or gameplay to make a full game out of it. It's lazy game design. I won't be moved from this point, it's lazy. You know it, I know it.

I strongly disagree, the core loop of D2 revolves around the 3 difficulties. It has entire tiers of gear and items which only appear on higher difficulties. It has nothing to do with laziness. In those days any game that lasted longer than say 40 hours was doing serious work. Most games even RPGs were designed as one and done affairs, outside of strategy games few PC action games had the replayability of Diablo and its sequel, and that was tied to its loot system. The levels were almost irrelevant.

Case in point D3 does away with this mechanic and instead sees you level up through generic procedural rift levels or hopping around the main story levels like a speed freak with ADHD, is this a better experience? Not really its equally grindy and dull just in a different way. Whether you enjoy the game is down to does the loot and gameplay overcome the rather tired levelling systems.

POE same story, it did away with its 3 difficulty structure over 5 (or was it 6?) acts and instead now has the same content stretched out over 10 acts. But you do still broadly repeat content, its barely any different functionally.

Precisely. It's all the same in the end - just slightly different packaging. Pretending that devs are being "lazy" and using "bad design" because you think you know better than them is asinine and ignorant on the whole.

Whenever someone spews it out all I can think is.. well? I'm waiting on "your" game that does it "right". Show us how it's done. After you get done selling 5-6 million copies of your amazingly designed game give me a call.

[Childe Roland]

Originally posted by automatonomega:

You have to play a character all the way to the end first though. It's not a genuine circumvention if you can't access it from hour 0, then it's just a quality of life improvement for people on their 37th replay. Not the same thing. Your apologetics fall on deaf ears.

That's why the devs handed out the editing tools to make mods and tools like GD Stash. To give people the option to change things and skip ahead without having to bloat the game to the point that no hardware could actually run it. Use Stash and give yourself a merit if you're too damn lazy to run the whole thing even once. And quit whining like child having a tantrum. If you're so uninterested in the game (and no, I don't believe your claim about liking it from your OP; I call shenanigans) then why are you here? Oh right, you're clearly a troll.

Originally posted by SchnitzelTruck:

As an Oregonian, we dont claim this guy as ours. Idaho can take him.

Can we just give him to Canada? They owe us for Beiber.

[midori]

the ♥♥♥♥ did i just read lol

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

@automatonomega
KG got it right, it's working "as intended" for some reason
the % global buff part of "attack"skills that provide global buffs don't get converted trough transmuters or even global conversion
this you can see on Lethal Assault, Soul Harvest, Deadly Momentum and Savagery/Storm Touched too
i've always just left it up as a "quirk of the engine" or one of those quirky dev decisions

in the grand scheme of RF/Consecration things i don't really think it matters much, as with 50% bonus dmg at rank 12 i don't get the sense it was ever meant to be a strong"/useful" global buff for other attacks than RF itself (and wps) - and in that regard it/Consecration % does kinda internally get converted (for RF attacks only), there is more wonk with RF/Consecration and conversion at play than first meets the eye ;)

[Anathema]

This is the dumbest topic I've read in a while. Some people just don't know when to quit.

[automatonomega]

Originally posted by gNuff!~©~gNom3™:

@automatonomega
KG got it right, it's working "as intended" for some reason
the % global buff part of "attack"skills that provide global buffs don't get converted trough transmuters or even global conversion
this you can see on Lethal Assault, Soul Harvest, Deadly Momentum and Savagery/Storm Touched too
i've always just left it up as a "quirk of the engine" or one of those quirky dev decisions

in the grand scheme of RF/Consecration things i don't really think it matters much, as with 50% bonus dmg at rank 12 i don't get the sense it was ever meant to be a strong"/useful" global buff for other attacks than RF itself (and wps) - and in that regard it/Consecration % does kinda internally get converted (for RF attacks only), there is more wonk with RF/Consecration and conversion at play than first meets the eye ;) :claugh:

I appreciate your response, thank you.

[automatonomega]

Originally posted by Childe Roland:

That's why the devs handed out the editing tools to make mods and tools like GD Stash. To give people the option to change things and skip ahead without having to bloat the game to the point that no hardware could actually run it. Use Stash and give yourself a merit if you're too damn lazy to run the whole thing even once. And quit whining like child having a tantrum. If you're so uninterested in the game (and no, I don't believe your claim about liking it from your OP; I call shenanigans) then why are you here? Oh right, you're clearly a troll.

Yeah I totally have almost 700 hours in the game because I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate it. You're a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ genius and you should definitely go apply for the Prometheus Society after acing your MAT.

Originally posted by SchnitzelTruck:

As an Oregonian, we dont claim this guy as ours. Idaho can take him.

Can we just give him to Canada? They owe us for Beiber. [/quote]

t(-.-t) you too buddy

[Sleazy Ninja]

Originally posted by Befuddled Honey Badger:

Originally posted by automatonomega:

The defining feature of privilege is your subjective blindness to it. Your body replaces itself once every 8 years, if it's been more than that long since you were poor, or sick, or disabled, then those aspects of your past are no longer a living part of who you are, as all of those cells are now long gone. Personalities and mores shift over time, you see. It's inevitable as we age.

The fact you're just learning this, shows how behind you are. Want to be a fully fledged adult human? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ assess your own privilege.

I read up until this post and stopped. I don't know if you do have autism (I have Asperger's Syndrome and have a few autistic friends and none act like you) or you are just mentally retarded, either way, you are either trolling or have actually been raised and brainwashed by the extreme leftist ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that seems to be floating around these days. Your common sense and critical thinking faculties seemed to have atrophied from the echo chamber you live in. That's not even mentioning your OP, where you dislike something so that must mean it is objectively bad, whether anyone else agrees with you or not. Then, when someone inevitably disagrees with you, you immediately take to ad hominems, i.e. "your racist/ableist/you have 'white privilege'".

Calling Powbam racist, then flipping the fact he has three children with a black woman to 'I'm not racist but...' and saying he's privileged because he's white shows you are, in fact, the racist. Labelling people and putting them into categories is inherently racist. Also, racist has lost all meaning now, like the boy who cried wolf, but it wasn't even accurate when it was first coined in the 70's. Bigot or xenophobic are the far more accurate of terms for what 'racism' describes.

As for 'white privilege', that too, is an empty word that's been politicised. I'm white and I am not privileged. My family are from small agricultural and coal mining villages and towns in Wales and have never been well off. I myself am an only child of a poor, single parent family, struggling with mental health issues since my early twenties and spending the last 8-10 years with suicidal ideations almost every day. I'm currently on benefits and not in work, I have no University education, no savings and don't speak to my family anymore and lost most of my friends thanks to anxiety and depression turning me anti-social essentially. WHERE THE ♥♥♥♥ IS THE PRIVILEGE C U N T?

You need to take a long, hard look at yourself and your actions and beliefs.

Wales has internet now? You guys talk like a 56k modem that is drowning and now you're here.

/only joking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrNonqsWphU&ab_channel=Murscel

Thought I'd chip in with some irrelevant stuff. Have fun lads.

[powbam]

Well said, Badger.

And this..

Originally posted by Befuddled Honey Badger:

Then, when someone inevitably disagrees with you, you immediately take to ad hominems, i.e. "your racist/ableist/you have 'white privilege'".

..I learned long ago is the defining characteristic of extreme leftists. You ever notice how the rhetoric they spit is often vulgar and you can see how badly they want to control the world and make others think and act like them? Know who else wanted to control the world and make others think and act like them?

Hehe.. I'm sure you well know the answer to that question. Never give the extreme left in America the power - if they do it will be 1930's and '40's Germany all over again. They have more in common with the "nazi's" they claim to hate than they clearly realize.

Fortunately he's just a measly self-professed autistic keyboard warrior with literally no real power to affect anyone in this manner. It's best that it remains that way too because it's obvious in the sheer amount of hate that emanates from his speech that things would turn very bad around here if that were to change.

[mikeydsc]

Originally posted by powbam:

Originally posted by automatonomega:

I just watched you be sexist, man. You show me bigotry, I'm going to assume bigotry.

I am a bit sexist. And I happen to be quite good with myself on that. At least I'm not incessantly pedantic tho. I got that going for me. Not so sure about you tho.

And why are you assuming that because I might be sexist therefore I must also be racist? Why are you assuming that I'm white? Why are you assuming that black people aren't sexist too? Or racist? Is that only a white trait? Is that why you made that assumption?

--

My advice to you for the future - try understanding that you came across like a royal prick in your initial replies on the first page. That is without question.

Just stopping by to drop off the popcorn as this is worthy of making a movie

[mikeydsc]

Originally posted by Norzan:

Originally posted by automatonomega:

but that doesn't change the fact that one game with scalable difficulty is inherently better than playing it 3 times.

Since when this is a fact? The fact that this was the norm for several years means people actually liked it.

Originally posted by automatonomega:

The ...snip.... release.

So you do know this is where what some would call "next game plus or plus plus" comes in. Lots of games use that mechanic to this day. Exact same thing in a new wrapper.

[mikeydsc]

Originally posted by Childe Roland:

Originally posted by automatonomega:

You have to play a character all the way to the end first though. It's not a genuine circumvention if you can't access it from hour 0, then it's just a quality of life improvement for people on their 37th replay. Not the same thing. Your apologetics fall on deaf ears.

That's why ...snip ... clearly a troll.

******

Originally posted by SchnitzelTruck:

As an Oregonian, we dont claim this guy as ours. Idaho can take him.

Can we just give him to Canada? They owe us for Beiber.

******
Almost had pepsi out my nose.. thanks for that.

Toss in some Wisconsin cheese as well. If the cheese dont work toss in some bacon

[Childe Roland]

Originally posted by mikeydsc:

So you do know this is where what some would call "next game plus or plus plus" comes in. Lots of games use that mechanic to this day. Exact same thing in a new wrapper.

Ah... "New Game+".
The first time I saw that mechanic was, let me think... oh right. The OG Legend of Zelda. They changed up the item locations, dungeon order, dungeon maps, pretty much everything except for the world map. And I think everyone would have to agree that game was, pardon the pun, legendary. So, yeah it's been around for a while. And it seems pretty popular with a lot of gamers.

Now an argument could be made that each difficulty should add something to the game, new enemies, new items, new locations to explore. But to say it's inherently a bad mechanic/bad game design. No. It wasn't bad when LoZ did it, it wasn't bad when Chrono Trigger did it, it's not bad today.