Cadence vs Savagery

[ScootyPuffJr]

I'm making a sword and board Warder, I'm just curious as to what left click skill you prefer more.

[mikeydsc]

L click cadence, r click savagery

[Aelies von Saladir]

My Warder uses Cadence. It was a tough decision, though.

[Nick]

Savagery if you plan on using Laceration. Otherwise, Troll Rage from Mistborn Talisman =)

[Kotli]

Only rule is dont use both Cadence and Weapon Pool Skills its a waste of skill points..

[Mr.Hmm]

Cadence!!!

Originally posted by Kotli:

Only rule is dont use both Cadence and Weapon Pool Skills its a waste of skill points..

Weapon Pool Skills = ?

Mind you I have 19 hours in and i am still in act 1 (just killed warden).

[Kotli]

Weapon pool skills is what people call any skill that has the text 'can activate with all default weapon attacks' in the description IE Markovien's Advantage and Zohan's Technique.

[Mr.Hmm]

Originally posted by Kotli:

Weapon pool skills is what people call any skill that has the text 'can activate with all default weapon attacks' in the description IE Markovien's Advantage and Zohan's Technique.

So that means if I use Cadence, weapon pool skills are useless? If i read it correctly Cadence procs these weapon pool skills since its classified as Default attack(or did i misunderstand?).

[Adrius]

When using Cadence every 3rd attack is replaced by a powerful attack that WPS skills cannot trigger on, therefore 1/3 of all your procs are wasted. It's still very powerful since every 2 strikes can still trigger WPS, it's just that it's not very optimal.

Troll Rage (Mistborn Talisman) / Beronath's Fury (Shard of Beronath) are item granted default attacks that let you use your WPS to maximum effect without wasting skill points, I recommend them. Mistborn especially is rather easy to get, and despite it being nerfed is still aweeeeeesome and will catapult your DPS across the constellations.

[ScootyPuffJr]

lots of good info thanks

[DrunkkMaster]

Cadence for +++Physical Damage +++Crit Dmg +AOE +Bleed dmg and +Internal dmg
Savagery for ++Lightning Dmg +Bleed Damage +Sustain

Easy your choice!

[mikeydsc]

The only problem I have with savagery is that physical needs cunning and lightning needs spirit, so which char level up point do you put it in? Cadence is all physical so its easy to just put point into cunning.

[DrunkkMaster]

Dont need put points in spirit for huge dmg, cuz u r gonna use it for melee n need some sustain for this build. My advice, for melee single, use cadence and for melee multiplayer use 2h and primal strike huge lightning dmg and AOE but very weak vs boss n nemesis.

[Mr.Hmm]

Originally posted by Adrius:

When using Cadence every 3rd attack is replaced by a powerful attack that WPS skills cannot trigger on, therefore 1/3 of all your procs are wasted. It's still very powerful since every 2 strikes can still trigger WPS, it's just that it's not very optimal.

Troll Rage (Mistborn Talisman) / Beronath's Fury (Shard of Beronath) are item granted default attacks that let you use your WPS to maximum effect without wasting skill points, I recommend them. Mistborn especially is rather easy to get, and despite it being nerfed is still aweeeeeesome and will catapult your DPS across the constellations.

I see I did not know about this even after I read the whole description or the Skill.

Thank you very much :)

EDIT: 1 last thing, where can i find the Mistobrn Talisman recipe and the Shard of Beronath recipe? I tried googling it but I found nothing.

[Kotli]

Shard of Beronath repice drop from Nemesis chests at level 60 (well that the only place I seen/heard of it dropping from).

Mistborn Talisman recipe can drop any time you get a blueprint from a level 25+ mob or you might get it as a quest reward. Warning you will need to farm Troll bosses to get MI to make it or get lucky at the hidden shop.