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https://grimdawn.fandom.com/wiki/Grim_Dawn
"Engine
Iron Lore Engine
PathEngine "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grim_Dawn
Someone seems to have made a new page TQ game engine (that doesn't exist) on wikipedia for the engine, before it was only PathEngine
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grim_Dawn&action=history
Is it it even possible to find that info on gamepedia for Grim Dawn?
Wish that the devs would give the correct title and maybe the version, of what engine(s) were used. Instead of finding out that most of the info is incorrect or outdated.
I know about every single Grim Dawn wiki out there. The Fandom wiki is long ago abandoned and outdated - tho a few people have attempted to update parts of it.
Gamepedia became the new "wiki" many years ago and if you had to choose between fandom or gamepedia I would always recommend the Gamepedia wiki as it is considerably more up-to-date. I don't know if there is anywhere for that information on the gamepedia wiki.
Anyway, GD is built with the Titan Quest engine. It's as simple as that. That Titan Quest engine used Path Engine as a small part of itself - which, as Zantai mentioned, was ripped right out of it for GD.
If you wish to learn about the Titan Quest engine then Titan Quest's wikipedia is the only place I know with the most detailed information on that engine.
Nothing simple there, if the info is incorrect and who knows where else it's correct or not.
You're right about everything, but all of the wikis are out of date in some regard. I've used most of them for item stats, and had to update them somewhat myself at one point.
Basically it's sometimes pointless to rely on the web to get correct info about GD without finding conflicts or outright lies.
I make it a matter of course to always ensure that anything concerning GD history in both these places remains as accurate as possible and when I spot BS I always call it out and set the person straight on the matter - nothing gets posted here or the official forum that I don't see eventually.
As far as I'm concerned the actual written paragraphs in the TQ wikipedia are the most accurate concerning the engine itself - I don't give a hoot what any one-line sidebar says. You need to read the actual development and design notes further down in the wikipedia entry for TQ.
Beyond that, we then have all the subsequent changes and modifications to that engine that Crate has made over the past 10 years. Which are quite numerous and extensive. The engine that GD uses is no longer quite the same as the version TQ uses. They are very different now.
It's better to fix wikis and such.
Also we were talking about GD engine, not TQ's own engine.
Wonder if the engine info is even correct on that GD wikipedia by that guy who changed PathEngine to TQ Game Engine, though could be just semantics, but if it's licensed, then it must have an official name, I don't care about some made up names.
Considering the devs have stated in their homepage, it is "Iron Lore Engine".
Wonder if there is a dedicated page for all game engines, where you could see any engine being used by most or all games, with the correct title and versions per chance, like when the game was released and at the end of games life in terms of last official patch.
If you want to update wiki's, feel free. It's not something I am overly interested in doing. Just be sure to be clear about the fact that it is using a heavily modified TQ engine and that nothing to do with Path Engine is in GD's version of the engine.
But in terms of licensing and how the devs call it, it is a "heavily modified Iron Lore Engine without PathEngine". It's easy to just slap on the front of the engine the games name.
That's why you have versions.
More accurate would be Iron Lore Engine GD version at least, just calling it GD engine is inaccurate, because I doubt it's a total rewrite from zero.
Words have a meaning, otherwise it's just nonsense.
https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/why-did-you-buy-the-old-tq-engine/43645/7
"1st February stream:
rap8ti : Does GD use Unity engine ?
No, GD uses a proprietary engine that we built on top of the TQ engine."
https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/forthcoming-forgotten-gods-expac-what-we-know-so-far-part-ii/46489
I take that to mean if Crate wanted to they could licence out the use of the game engine in the same way Iron Lore licensed the TQ one to Crate.
I see no point for Crate to bother with going out of their way when they really don't need to. I'd much rather they keep doing what they are doing already and going out of their way with patches and free udpates and other content. Vastly better uses of their time.
If you had continued reading the thread you'd have come across the answer.
Also, there is a new game in the works. 3 of them to be precise. None of them are arpg's and so far they have said that GD is not in the works yet - and even if it was they are also unlikely to tell us so at this time.