Grim Dawn overheats GPU too much, fps drops included

[Ashbrain]

Rly wanna know whats wrong after b31 came out, it was rly fluid and well running on b30, now since patch is out, i expect rly strange behaviour of my gpu, i add a vid here to show that.. i messed around with any setting there is (ingame, driver, repair exe, nvidia cp, options.txt file, 4gb patch, turning all up, all down, combinations, resolutions, any... rly...), but cant get solid fps, while in all other games like d3, gta5 and whatever, there is solid fps on nearly maxed out settings with 2x2 supersampling enhanced anti aliasing... so what is it that gd now behavs like on b29.. rly.. i need a conclusion, i am a bit afraid it damages my gpu while i just stand in devils crossing and get load from near 100 percent and a temp of 80 round about, while i do NOTHING... pls fix that or give me a real advise what is wrong.. i do NOT, i repeat i do NOT experience this in any other game with maxed out (nearly) settings...

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=631546026

[Brakiros]

It was literally melting my GPU so I checked the settings it had AA at x16 and all the other settings at ultra. No wonder it was melting my card, I set everything down to high and with a slight drop in quality it dropped from 100C to 68C

[Ashbrain]

as you can see in my vid its mostly on medium... except for texture (high) and shadows (very high) but thats not the point,.. even on everything on low without enhanced antialiasing its the same result... maybe 5-10 degrees lower.. and you mean AF for sure, thats anisotropic filtering, which does NOT affect performance in any way, when it is normaly implemented... thats a fact, and that is not turned on ingame, just over the nvidia settings, and it's on 8x, that's enough filtering for any game on 1080p.. and whoa 100°? thats even more abnormal for a game like this,... even on maxed out settings.. that could maybe also a dusted fan, but i have a brand new gtx 970... weird.. and as stated above, i do NOT experience that on any other game.. not even on gta 5 on nearly max settings it is going that high and has such a , i will it call "dynamic", framerate while going insane on the screen... not even CAN go insane in gd right now cause it rly drops too low..

[Brakiros]

Originally posted by saschax3:

as you can see in my vid its mostly on medium... except for texture (high) and shadows (very high) but thats not the point,.. even on everything on low without enhanced antialiasing its the same result... maybe 5-10 degrees lower.. and you mean AF for sure, thats anisotropic filtering, which does NOT affect performance in any way, when it is normaly implemented... thats a fact, and that is not turned on ingame, just over the nvidia settings, and it's on 8x, that's enough filtering for any game on 1080p.. and whoa 100°? thats even more abnormal for a game like this,... even on maxed out settings.. that could maybe also a dusted fan, but i have a brand new gtx 970... weird.. and as stated above, i do NOT experience that on any other game.. not even on gta 5 on nearly max settings it is going that high and has such a , i will it call "dynamic", framerate while going insane on the screen... not even CAN go insane in gd right now cause it rly drops too low..

Hopefully the gold patch will fix it when I played it a year ago it didn't make my card want to burst into flames, had to bump the settings down and enforce v-sync to stabilise the eratic FPS

[Ashbrain]

yeah i alrdy tried forcing vsync too, sure, even triple buffering, ingame and nvidia, all combinations with fullscreen, windowmode and borderless windowmode.. its unfortunatly going to the same result for me, instable fps with high gpu temp.. :/ i'm on a win 10 64bit rig with an i5 4460, 16 gigs ram 1600mhz and gtx 970 by zotac, if that helps anyone out

[Klim]

I have 35 degrees in game.

[Ashbrain]

thats fine, but leads to no solution right now.. :D

[Sidwood]

Originally posted by saschax3:

yeah i alrdy tried forcing vsync too, sure, even triple buffering, ingame and nvidia, all combinations with fullscreen, windowmode and borderless windowmode.. its unfortunatly going to the same result for me, instable fps with high gpu temp.. :/ i'm on a win 10 64bit rig with an i5 4460, 16 gigs ram 1600mhz and gtx 970 by zotac, if that helps anyone out

For starters, that cpu is a bottleneck...

80c is abnormal for any game, highly doubt it's software related when most others don't have this problem. Have you tried older/stable drivers? (Doubt it will help, but worth a shot)

Is your gpu factory overclocked? Or did you mess with clock speeds at all?

[Brakiros]

Originally posted by saschax3:

yeah i alrdy tried forcing vsync too, sure, even triple buffering, ingame and nvidia, all combinations with fullscreen, windowmode and borderless windowmode.. its unfortunatly going to the same result for me, instable fps with high gpu temp.. :/ i'm on a win 10 64bit rig with an i5 4460, 16 gigs ram 1600mhz and gtx 970 by zotac, if that helps anyone out

Reduce shadows, AA to x2 or off, Reduce Quality to High or Medium, that should stop it from overheating

[Ashbrain]

i know i cant oc the 4460 but is it rly that bad for handling a game like gd, when it handles games like gta 5, diablo 3, fallout 4 and so on with ease in that hardware constellation, with 2x2 supersampling...? rly??.. i have latest driver, they are stable all around just not in gd.. i do NOT messed with overclocking my card, why shall i ? its rly great card in any other game... cant be.. even for "beginner".. lol :D

[Sidwood]

Originally posted by saschax3:

i know i cant oc the 4460 but is it rly that bad for handling a game like gd, when it handles games like gta 5, diablo 3, fallout 4 and so on with ease in that hardware constellation, with 2x2 supersampling...? rly??.. i have latest driver, they are stable all around just not in gd.. i do NOT messed with overclocking my card, why shall i ? its rly great card in any other game... cant be.. even for "beginner".. lol :D

... With that CPU you won't be getting half of what the card can provide, I'm sorry.

And the temperature in this game is not an indicator of faulty game design, or faulty coding, the issue is in your setup.

GTA5, D3 and Fallout are not benchmarks... Seriously, just because a card doesn't die when you play certain games it doesn't mean it's fine.

Stable drivers are drivers that aren't BETA or newest ones, google for your card's most stable drivers, there's probably a tomshardware article about it. Just because it runs fine in other games, doesn't mean it's fine for everything.

If drivers aren't the issue (Probably aren't), try looking into what slot your card is seated at, if your motherboard has two types of PCI slots, it should be in the x16 one.

[Vayra]

An i5 4460 is a bottleneck? No. Grim Dawn runs on one core. So you want a fast core, and getting a K CPU and dropping an OC on it won't make a life or death difference.

I run this game on an i5 3570k @ 4.2 + 780ti and I have erratic fps. Always one cpu core at 100%. When it gets crowded, frames drop. it's the engine, it's the game. Don't bother upgrading hardware because of a single threaded engine, it's not worth it. I could OC it further to 4.6 Ghz and then my frames may drop back to 50 instead of 35-40, all the way up from 120 whenever it is NOT crowded in game.

The fact is that D3 is extremely well optimized, GTA5 as well (along with it running on more than on core) so they are no comparison. Big budget titles get driver/vendor specific optimization as well, they let engineers from Nvidia and AMD come in and make driver code for THEIR game.

Either way, GD lacks all this optimization and is built on a relatively old and dated engine, runs on a single core and is heavy in the physics department, which also runs over CPU. You can't upgrade against all this. Just accept the fact that you may occasionally see sub 30's fps, or play the game in 5 years when we have faster components.

On the subject of overheating; if cpu or gpu do work, they get hot. If they get too hot, you have other problems, like dust in your case, bad cooling, bad airflow.

[Sidwood]

Originally posted by Vayra:

An i5 4460 is a bottleneck? No. Grim Dawn runs on one core. So you want a fast core, and getting a K CPU and dropping an OC on it won't make a life or death difference.

I run this game on an i5 3570k @ 4.2 + 780ti and I have erratic fps. Always one cpu core at 100%. When it gets crowded, frames drop. it's the engine, it's the game. Don't bother upgrading hardware because of a single threaded engine, it's not worth it.

The fact is that D3 is extremely well optimized, GTA5 as well (along with it running on more than on core) so they are no comparison. Big budget titles get driver/vendor specific optimization as well, they let engineers from Nvidia and AMD come in and make driver code for THEIR game.

Either way, GD lacks all this optimization and is built on a relatively old and dated engine, runs on a single core and is heavy in the physics department, which also runs over CPU. You can't upgrade against all this.

Did I suggest upgrading hardware? No.

GTA5 is a poor console port (why even give it as example... Especially when it's rockstar), better than GTA4 but it's nowhere near optimized, the loading times are a good indicator to that.

D3 is a single core game, like many games of that generation.

Also, this CPU doesn't have the standard L2 cache of newer i5's, it's half the L2 cache, it's a bottleneck, want it or not.

[Ashbrain]

all i have to say is watch my vids on yt linked to this account, there is a proof of way higher temps after the b31 update... nothing more to say, and for sure the 4460 does NOT bottleneck a gtx 970 in any way.. https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3pyet5/will_an_i5_4460_bottleneck_a_gtx_970/

[Protean1]

FWIW you want games to push your card to 100%, or else you paid money for hardware capabilities that you aren't using. Games fully utilizing your gpu generally means they are well optimized. I'm not sure why anyone would want to pay hundreds of dollars for something and then only use a portion of its power.

As for your temps, games won't "melt" your gpu. They may push your gpu to 100% load, but provided you have proper cooling solutions and clean your pc regularly, your temps shouldn't exceed safe values. If you're going above the recommended safe maximum temperature, you need to reassess your cooling set up or buy a can of condensed air to clean your pc. Maybe move it so it's not directly under a heat vent, or something.

[Ashbrain]

a friend and me now benchmark this game with streaming to each other, the friend is running a gtx 980 with latest drivers and an i7... she , the friend, has mostly the same fps drops at the same areas as me, 3-5 fps more cause its an i7 + gtx 980, but i use 2x2 supersampling, she not, and her temp go up to 75 aswell... same ingame settings... same area drops.. what about that..?