Grim Dawn, still the best ARPG out!

[Bludbonez]

For me personally. I think of Grim Dawn as the best ARPG out right now. Why do I say this? After playing POE, Titan Quest, D4, D3, a lil Last Epoch, some Torchlight 2. I find myself coming back to Grim dawn.

For some reason these other titles while sometimes fun. Only handles that Arpg FIX i like for a short time. Believe me, I would love to find a ARPG that could replace Grim Dawn for a while. I am amassing quite alot of hours in this game.

On the horizon I look forward to giving the new ARPG titles coming in 2024. I hope the hype for games like POE2, and Titan Quest 2 are real. I have to say POE2 looks really good. But then it comes down to... Will any of the new titles knock GD out of my first place slot?

At the moment I do not see anything on the near horizon!

[TAKE A DUMP]

this game is meh
there are better

[☠Ⓐ︎Ⓝ︎Ⓥ︎Ⓘ︎Ⓛ︎☠ ᚨᚾᚡᛁᛚ ®™]

Nothing comes close to this game.

I hope crate never changes their ways and gets crappy like some other unmentioned companies.

I am also glad they are not cranking out title after title i like to have 10 years or so to enjoy a game, at the very least 5.

If your a company cranking out new game quicker than every 5 years chances are I am going to ignore you. Tired buying crap

[makinaccion]

It goes to show what a great work Crate has done, but also shows the sad state of the industry (or the genre) when all other alternatives still pale compared to a game which is almost a decade old.

[Shammy]

Still new to GD, but after about 120 hours played (and still going) I feel like I can include my assessment of it in the grand scheme of the major ARPGS. (Having over 300 in D4S2 alone, probably close to 700 hours in D4, thousands of hours in POE over the years, several hundred in Last Epoch..dabbled with wolcen and torchlight infinite...)

GD does a lot right but there are major QoL things that are overlooked that could make it so much better. I think theres probably a few level scaling adjustments that could be made too, and gear level requirement scaling adjustments.

If I were to rank:
Moment to Moment gameplay: D4
Itemization: POE (GD and Last Epoch are close).
Build variety: POE (GD close, LE not far off)
Leveling: POE (Simply because its quick. For me, 50-60 hours before 'endgame' is a bit much D4/GD)
Crafting: Last Epoch (deterministic, love it).
Endgame: POE or LE.
Graphics: D4
Audio: D4

I dont know, I think GD is great. Totally surprised with it. And it has an odd niche to it that the other games don't share because its more of a play-through ARPG where youre grinding out factions and what not. I personally dont enjoy POE anymore so GD is definitely in a top 3 or top 2 for me.

[Pervy]

Originally posted by Digital Amusement:

this game is meh
there are better

I agree its not number 1, so long as you dont say dia4 is above this xD

[Bludbonez]

Ohh wanted to add. This ARPG is on my serious watch list! Forgot to add it in my main post. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3zJPgIDtuk

[[MOSS]-BurningUp]

I don't think PoE is better so I'm not sure what else is. PoE is too bloated now and they haven't had a good league in ages anyway.

[Necroshine]

Originally posted by ☠Ⓐ︎Ⓝ︎Ⓥ︎Ⓘ︎Ⓛ︎☠ ᚨᚾᚡᛁᛚ ®™:

Nothing comes close to this game.

I hope crate never changes their ways and gets crappy like some other unmentioned companies.

I am also glad they are not cranking out title after title i like to have 10 years or so to enjoy a game, at the very least 5.

If your a company cranking out new game quicker than every 5 years chances are I am going to ignore you. Tired buying crap

Its this simple. If Crate ever becomes big enough to become a corporation or sell out to a corporation with public stock and investors it's all over. That's when games stop becoming a labor of love and start becoming a trash corporate dollar driven spendfest ala current day Blizzard.

[𝓢𝓪𝓷𝓸𝓶𝓪𝓻𝓾]

PoE is good and each build is deep, I would definitely put PoE on top of everything if it is not too complicated. The game is a total mess in term of crafting. There are way too many materials to farm in order to make end game builds and to farm them all, u have to go thru so many steps. Almost impossible to play this game alone, especially when u want to min max your build. Other than that, I love everything else about PoE.
D2, well, I have probably over 10000 in this game ( played since 2006). This masterpiece is a foundation for every other arpgs out there. I'm a big fan of Diablo and Blizz ONLY because of D2. D3 and D4 completely destroyed my hope in this garbage company, especially D4. I did play around 17 seasons of D3 too and the game is decent.
Torchlight 2 might be one of the best out of them all. Not T3 tho, that game is trash.
Last Epoch is absolutely awesome and I have like 400 hrs in it already, Game still needs some optimization here and there.
Wolcen is good too but end game is bland. Too many builds that have the same play style.
Titan Quest, oh man, If I can rank 3 best ARPGs, TQ might be in it. Grim Dawn learns alot from TQ, especially the ability of picking 2 classes at the same time, I know its graphic is outdated, but the gameplay, build diversity and loot system is on point. Farming everything in that game actually feel satisfied.
Grim Dawn learns a lot from TQ and from others like D2 or Torchlight too. Crate devs are super active and support this game and that itself makes the game to be one of the best, if not the best out of them all.

P/s: I have high hope for Titan Quest 2 and POE2 too. I watched the gameplay of mercenary in POE2 yesterday and it is insane on what you can do. It is like a mix of COD and POE lol, you can throw grenades out and instead of waiting for them to explode, you can shoot them and make them explode earlier, or instead of shooting ice bullet to enemies, you can shoot it on the ground to make them slower by stepping on it.