Aegis of Menhir = Spell or Attack?

[Senrezu]

Does Aegis scale with cast speed or attack speed when you nullify the cooldown with the conduit?

[KG]

Cast speed.

[Bludbonez]

In its description it should tell you if it is a spell or not. In this case it is a spell. So cast speed not attack speed for this ability.

[Senrezu]

Originally posted by Bludbonez:

In its description it should tell you if it is a spell or not. In this case it is a spell. So cast speed not attack speed for this ability.

"With the strength of the earth flowing through you by the blessings of Menhir, hurl a magical aegis that will home in upon your target and leave it staggered and dazed before returning to you. Requires a shield."

No it does not tell in the skill description. Neither does Forcewave. In fact Forcewave's description declares it as an attack multiple times. So I don't trust the skill descriptions anyways.

[Gilver Redgrave]

Yeah the game isnt holding your hand with stuff like this.

As a rule of thump every "skill" that is connected with or comes from your basic attack uses Attack Speed. Or in short every type of "Weapon Attack". Forcewave for example can be used with a shield however its also toggled for 2 Handed Weapon which makes it a Weapon Attack and not a "spell".

Aegis of Menhir isnt a Weapon Attack so its a Spell and affected by Cast Speed.

[Bludbonez]

Originally posted by Senrezu:

Originally posted by Bludbonez:

In its description it should tell you if it is a spell or not. In this case it is a spell. So cast speed not attack speed for this ability.

"With the strength of the earth flowing through you by the blessings of Menhir, hurl a magical aegis that will home in upon your target and leave it staggered and dazed before returning to you. Requires a shield."

No it does not tell in the skill description. Neither does Forcewave. In fact Forcewave's description declares it as an attack multiple times. So I don't trust the skill descriptions anyways.

Did you see the word "magical" in that phrase? As Gilver stated, the game does not hold your hand. But it is ok. You have your answer now. Good Luck, enjoy!

[Gilver Redgrave]

Originally posted by Bludbonez:

Did you see the word "magical" in that phrase? As Gilver stated, the game does not hold your hand. But it is ok. You have your answer now. Good Luck, enjoy!

The word Magical sadly is also misleading and irrelevant as the shield also deals Physical damage. In a sense almost everything in this game is Magical as there is almost always some sort of Magical damage on it.

[Senrezu]

Originally posted by Bludbonez:

Did you see the word "magical" in that phrase?

"Such force is channeled into the attack that it compresses the very air, projecting out a wave of energy that stuns and damages foes. This attack requires a shield or two-handed melee weapon."

Such magical. very cast speed. wow.

[Melusca]

Basically everything that isn't a default attack replacer (Fire Strike, Cadence etc) or a WPS scales with cast speed.

[Bludbonez]

Originally posted by Melusca:

Basically everything that isn't a default attack replacer (Fire Strike, Cadence etc) or a WPS scales with cast speed.

That is a good way to look at it.

[Senrezu]

Originally posted by Bludbonez:

Originally posted by Melusca:

Basically everything that isn't a default attack replacer (Fire Strike, Cadence etc) or a WPS scales with cast speed.

That is a good way to look at it.

Primal Strike? Blade Arc?

That's a bad way to look at it.

[DirtyMick]

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

Yeah the game isnt holding your hand with stuff like this.

As a rule of thump every "skill" that is connected with or comes from your basic attack uses Attack Speed. Or in short every type of "Weapon Attack". Forcewave for example can be used with a shield however its also toggled for 2 Handed Weapon which makes it a Weapon Attack and not a "spell".

Aegis of Menhir isnt a Weapon Attack so its a Spell and affected by Cast Speed.

Yet forcewave scales off of cast speed lol.

[Safarel]

Originally posted by DirtyMick:

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

Forcewave for example can be used with a shield however its also toggled for 2 Handed Weapon which makes it a Weapon Attack and not a "spell".

Aegis of Menhir isnt a Weapon Attack so its a Spell and affected by Cast Speed.

Yet forcewave scales off of cast speed lol.

I also laughed on this, if skill behavior would be connected to weapon type that are uses (for example for ranged it becomes attack speed and with offhand it becomes cast speed) then it will be a totally different game
FW is a cast no matter that weapon you are use

[FubarOne]

If a skill requires hitting something with your actual weapon then it's attack speed, if it doesn't then it's cast speed.

[Gilver Redgrave]

Originally posted by DirtyMick:

Yet forcewave scales off of cast speed lol.

Hmm interesting.
Kinda stupid tho because that would make Forcewave the only skill for Soldier that works with cast speed but i guess when youre just "hammering away" it wont really matter. I was assuming Forcewave works the same way Primal Strike does. Both are skills you turn into your basic attack after all while using your main weapon for it. So its kinda odd that swinging my Shiled or 2 Handed huge a** sword is affected by cast speed.

Originally posted by Safarel:

I also laughed on this, if skill behavior would be connected to weapon type that are uses (for example for ranged it becomes attack speed and with offhand it becomes cast speed) then it will be a totally different game

Well. "Caster" Off hands are a thing ya know.

[Senrezu]

Originally posted by FubarOne:

If a skill requires hitting something with your actual weapon then it's attack speed, if it doesn't then it's cast speed.

Ranged Primal Strike does not hit with your weapon. You summon lightning from the sky. Yet it scales with attack speed.