Savagery/Righteos Fervor... charges

[chris]

Can someone please explain how they directly work? It is still unclear for me...

Is it so, that for example 1/16 Savagery on the first charge only does 30% Weapon Damage (0,3 x 100%), then 30% again, then 50% till 90 % with the 6th charge?
And 16/16 Savagery on the first charge 45,3 % (0,3 x 150% Weapon Damage), then again 45,3%, then 75,5% (0,5 x 150% Wepon Damamage) till 162 % Wepon Damage on the 8th charge?

Is it then better to do normal attacks with 100 % Weapon Damage when I level Savagery at the beginning because (also with the extra Ligthning and Bleeding Damage from the skill) I do not so much damage? (At higher level Savagery this is no more the problem)

And when I have the Charges active work they for other things with Weapon Damage too or only for Savagery itself? For example can i push as a warder with the Charges from savagery Blade Arc?

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

aeh generally its not an issue
your understanding is correct, but there are additional factors not being considered,
1 being it takes you a mere 3 levels/"5minutes" to get to 9pts
other being that at low level/starter weapons have veeeery low weapon dmg
and savagery carries native flat with it, which will then offset some of those early charges
savagery is an ok skill to level with, not the best, but it's really not because of the charge system, and if you use the usual levelling approach of "max a main dmg skill/max your dmg skill asap" then it will be totally fine

[chris]

Thx gnuff for your answer.

Remains the thing with the charges for another Weapon damage skill. Can I boost another skill or are the charges for savagery alone?
I level now a warlord with righteos fevor and think blade arc can work well if the charges bosst it...

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

it "does" and it "doesn't"
the flat dmg and %weapon dmg scaling is native/direct to savagery/RF only
the other stuff, speed/oa/DA/%phys/%fire/%lighting is global/applied as a regular global buff, but isnt' really "big" enough to be worth stacking if you're using another main/spam attack, if you were using cooldown blade arc it could potentially benefit in a small way (the global dmg boost isn't really that big, tho it can be big early on when you have low %boosters)
*the total dmg bonus on savagery 2h Might of the Bear is for savagery only too

[chris]

Ok, now its clear for me. The it "does" and it "doesnt" thing maked these skills a little bit confusing for me.

Thanks again for your axplanations. :-)

[Malterras]

I absolutely despised leveling with savagery. It was extremely tedious to have to face smack every mob. Its fine at endgame once you have multiple procs chaining from it, but for the smoother leveling experience with shaman I'd say modified primal strike is far more user friendly. I have a savagery Archon that is collecting dust at 95 once I discovered primal strike warder and took that all the way to 100.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

savagery levelling is totally fine
sure primal strike is better/easier, but if treated right aint nothing wrong with savagery

[slight001]

Just throwing my 2bits into the ring for savagery is fine for leveling. My last character was a Warder who used Savagery as their primary skill on ultimate in hardcore all SSF from level 1, only buffs were the token bits you get from using the difficulty jump.

Was it slow at first? Yep, did I have to run? Of course I did. Just focus on your resistances, and other defenses (I really like regen builds for warders) and you'll get there, might just need to hump a lot of loot to get the bits you need to grab potential upgrades from the shops, I know the early levels are such pains, but you can do it and do just fine.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

pick Bat/Twin Fangs as your first devotion in act 1, slap it on Savagery, should be relatively smooth sailing if you don't get too greedy/pick couple additional sensible devotions and skill paths to match (kraken for 2h, ghoul, "stuff")
- luck out and get a troll stick or other decent booster weapon and it gets even better ofc

[DirtyMick]

Malterras lähetti viestin:

I absolutely despised leveling with savagery. It was extremely tedious to have to face smack every mob. Its fine at endgame once you have multiple procs chaining from it, but for the smoother leveling experience with shaman I'd say modified primal strike is far more user friendly. I have a savagery Archon that is collecting dust at 95 once I discovered primal strike warder and took that all the way to 100.

Yeah I agree. Leveling using primal strike is so much faster.