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stmac571 Aug 6, 2023 @ 3:28am
get the Nemesis bosses spawn in a expectable way
the problem for getting Tonic of Clarity is look for nemesis bosses, however when u are at ultimate difficulty, it is really hard, most of them, and unexpectable when they will spawn in the game. it should increase or hold in a constant in time interval, then they should be assign in different level, not all in 100, so it really suit for causal player to take them down , exp when u are not in Level 100, due to ultimate difficulty criteria , it is very hard when u level isn't high enough .
Last edited by stmac571; Aug 6, 2023 @ 2:05pm
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Nemesis spawning works on your rep with hostile factions, has nothing to do with your level. If you can use Warrants from those factions to boost your rep then you'll get the Nemesis bosses spawning earlier.

You also get the tonic from completing certain quests in the game.

https://grimdawn.fandom.com/wiki/Tonic_of_Clarity?so=search
you get tonic of clarities free from questing, you get several pay difficulty, per char
nemesis is not the only source of tonic of clarity, you can get them in crucible and sr too, (monster totems too? i think/unsure?)
Nemesis do not spawn in unexpected places, infact their spawn locations are very fixed, and "guaranteed" if you will; if you feel the spawn points are too many for a given Nemesis then just hunt a Nemesis with few spawns/fast clear potential
nemesis can be fought on any difficulty, so you only take on Ultimate difficulty challenge farming them; if you voluntarily select Ultimate
^once nemesis status is reached you get nemesis spawns regardless of difficulty on that char, and each nemesis is a guaranteed 1x spawn per Nemesis, ie up to 10 nemesis spawns per session for a char
jalex3 Aug 6, 2023 @ 5:26am 
Would be nice if bounty boards or an NPC could tell where a nemesis has been sighted.
Originally posted by jalex3:
Would be nice if bounty boards or an NPC could tell where a nemesis has been sighted.
that would void the point of hunting for them tho? and just make them another a-b target boss
Neit Aug 6, 2023 @ 6:58am 
If you only need a nemesis, not some specific one, it's quite easy to find some of them. Kymon/Order nemesis and Cronley nemesis have only handful of spawn poins It usually takes only few minutes to clear both of them, if you have the necessary rep. They are never behind Skeleton Key doors. While looking for them, there's also a slight chance, you will find another different nemesis, as you cross their possible spawn points.

Third best option is Eldritch nemesis, although it has more places to spawn (basically the second part of the FG DLC), it can be reliably farmed and the rep is very easy to get and it's also never locked behind Skeleton Key.

If your goal is literally only the Tonic, it's also not-so-rare drop in later SR shards, so that's another option how to get it, although not as reliable as nemesis farming. Also, as others mentioned, you also get plenty of those as quest rewards.
Pervy Aug 6, 2023 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by jalex3:
Would be nice if bounty boards or an NPC could tell where a nemesis has been sighted.
Look on the wiki, you can find there spawn places, and just go over them to find who spawned.
don't use the wiki, it wont actually tell you where, just the zones
use grimtools for details
https://www.grimtools.com/monsterdb/
stmac571 Aug 6, 2023 @ 2:08pm 
i want to said is when, how frequency they will spawn. i have several character , not a new player.

like i posted in the past, tonic of clarities should be able to buy from vendor in the game, u can limit it in amount and time to resupply.......
Last edited by stmac571; Aug 7, 2023 @ 9:06am
Originally posted by stmac571:
i want to said is when, how frequency they will spawn. i have several character , not a new player.
when you are Nemesis status, Nemesis will always spawn each session, guaranteed
ch'thonians have 2 nemesis, Aetherials have 2/1 for each type of Aetherial faction, rest have 1 per faction
if you are nemesis with all factions that means you get 10 nemesis spawn, guaranteed, per session, after (world) Nemesis is killed you need to go to main menu to get new nemesis spawn from the same faction/faction you already killed nemesis from
so if you are hunting ex Eldritch nemesis "only"/specifically, you go in game, find and kill the nemesis, then go to main menu and then enter world again; and nemesis will guaranteed to have spawned in one of its spots in the new session too

*how many potential spawn points a nemesis has depends/varies per Nemesis, some has like 18? others have 30 potential spawn points, but if nemesis status is reached a faction's nemesis will *always* spawn in one of its fixed spawn locations
you can check on the monster database i linked earlier exactly what and where each nemesis XY individual spawn points are if you wish
ex this is Maiden's spawns https://www.grimtools.com/monsterdb/1155/spawns
you can then even click on the map to see directly on map location in specific zones
Last edited by gNuff!~©~gNom3™; Aug 6, 2023 @ 2:19pm
Steelflame Aug 6, 2023 @ 11:58pm 
Originally posted by stmac571:
i want to said is when, how frequency they will spawn. i have several character , not a new player.

as i posted in the past, tonic of clarities should be able to buy from vendor in the game, u can limit it in amount and time to resupply.......

As others have said, every nemesis spawns 100% of the time, once you've hit the minimum rep requirement. They just only spawn at one specific spawn point. Some, this isn't saying much, as they may spawn practically on half the map it feels like (Aetherial Nemesis has a ton of potential places you may need to check), others are very easy to path through all of their spawn points to find them like any of the human factions nemesis spawns.

The only reason a Nemesis spawn may not seem guaranteed is if you don't know all of their locations. Some are hidden in far off corners, small side caves you may not revisit, or locked behind skeleton keys (where, if you fail the kill that run, either because you missed the spawn or died to them in the fight, you can't take another shot at it that session and have to retry).
Bludbonez Aug 7, 2023 @ 3:42am 
Originally posted by stmac571:
the problem for getting Tonic of Clarity is look for nemesis bosses, however when u are at ultimate difficulty, it is really hard, most of them, and unexpectable when they will spawn in the game. it should increase or hold in a constant in time interval, then they should be assign in different level, not all in 100, so it really suit for causal player to take them down , exp when u are not in Level 100, due to ultimate difficulty criteria , it is very hard when u level isn't high enough .
Why would you actually want to hunt a Nemesis? I get them and find them irritating from what I am trying to do. In a way, I think that is exactly what they are suppose to do!

As to potions of clarity. You get them throughout. If you believe you need to use one. It is often better to just use a spirit guide. I do like the "Wanted" poster drops. Those are very cool!
Last edited by Bludbonez; Aug 7, 2023 @ 3:44am
Originally posted by Bludbonez:
Why would you actually want to hunt a Nemesis? I get them and find them irritating from what I am trying to do. In a way, I think that is exactly what they are suppose to do!
because they have increased loot drop, was a challenge element in the older days when SR etc traditional endgame mode wasn't a thing, and ofc they drop specific Nemesis MIs
they've lost a bit of their relevance today since, generally you don't need their increased drop rate (tho they are still decent for blueprint farm if not able to do sr 75), other/bigger challenge elements elsewhere and ofc can easily get their MIs in Crucible or SR
except for Kaisan, his MI is exclusive to him and he has to be target farmed/world killed to get that sweet +1all skill necklace
DestPrince Jul 6, 2024 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by gNuff!~©~gNom3™:
don't use the wiki, it wont actually tell you where, just the zones
use grimtools for details
https://www.grimtools.com/monsterdb/
The grim tools site doesn't list Nemesis spawn locations anymore, every time I try to look at details for Nemesis bosses, the tab for it just has a blank screen with a "?" On it
Last edited by DestPrince; Jul 6, 2024 @ 12:47pm
Originally posted by DestPrince:
Originally posted by gNuff!~©~gNom3™:
don't use the wiki, it wont actually tell you where, just the zones
use grimtools for details
https://www.grimtools.com/monsterdb/
The grim tools site doesn't list Nemesis spawn locations anymore, every time I try to look at details for Nemesis bosses, the tab for it just has a blank screen with a "?" On it
because Nemesis system was changed in last patch, and no longer has fixed spawn point
so now Nemesis spawns dynamically near you when you kill X amount of enemies related to that faction
Originally posted by DestPrince:
Originally posted by gNuff!~©~gNom3™:
don't use the wiki, it wont actually tell you where, just the zones
use grimtools for details
https://www.grimtools.com/monsterdb/
The grim tools site doesn't list Nemesis spawn locations anymore, every time I try to look at details for Nemesis bosses, the tab for it just has a blank screen with a "?" On it

Because it was change with v1.2.1.0

"Nemesis boss spawns have been overhauled. Nemesis bosses now appear randomly nearby when you slaughter monsters of their faction that grant experience and/or infamy, with more progress granted in Challenge Areas. Nemesis bosses no longer have fixed spawn points. Each Nemesis can still only spawn once per session."

So you could find them anywhere in the game.
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