I don't understand how to read builds/devotions, please help

[DoctorDarling]

Hey, every time I look at the devotion pages on a build, it's not making sense to me.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4NOKyXvN

For example this one. Looking at the bottom. How am I supposed to get Hawk and Quill? They require one green and none of the other filled in constellations seem to grant green? And the intial choices on the wheel or whatever do not include a green bonus one.


Or in this build:

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4NOKyXvN

How am I supposed to get rhowan's crown at the bottom? It says it requires 4 of the purple one, all I see is getting 3 from getting toad.

-_-

These are so confusing. I wish builds talked about what order to get the devotions in or something. What am I missing? (I'm also having a hard time even telling which contsellations are filled in on those, so maybe I'm just missing some.

Can someone help me figure out what order to get the constellations on these builds?

[EolSunder]

ok simple. In the very center is the 5 pointed star. That is the start of the devotion area. It has 5 points, each one is 1 color which opens up that color. You start there. there is 1 green in the center picked, there is your 1 green. Your missing the center starting area's colors.

[EolSunder]

You simply work your way out from the center. Vet players already know what to pick and what order. New players can either use builds to check it out, or just looking at the devotions you can say ok, i want to eventually get This and this devotion, what do i need. 7 yellows and 20 blues. Ok, how do i get that effectively and fast. I want to get it fast, but i don't want to pick a 5 blue devotion that doesn't really benefit my character, its better to use 4 points in a blue devotion that benefits my character than to use 3 points in one that doesn't really do much.

You want to reach your final devotions fast, but effectively. So, this devotion needs 3 points to unlock and gives 5 blues. Great! except its 3 unlocks really boost fire and chaos, and im a shaman electrical caster. Ick. Oh, that devotion takes 4 points to unlock, but it gives some stats and resistances, much better for me and also gives 5 blues when completed. A better choice.

Just take your time and look around. Many builds are good for the same devotions because of the great benefits, like warriors and physical/gun attacks always get the Kraken Devotion because it boosts attack speed and all-damage, so it pretty much will benefit any melee/gun
2 handed build you can make. Doesn't matter, attack speed and all-damage will cover it all.

Just like an electrical build usually tempest and spear of the heavens due to the nice lightning boost, plus a few extras i think cold/aether for a little extra. A good shaman electrical build is good with cold and lighting so always nice.

So take your time, look around, you'll learn.

[Anathema]

You have the same link twice, so I can only help you once.

What you need to understand is that devotions can supply their own affinity requirements. All you need to do is put 1 point in Crossroads green, complete Hawk or Quill, then respec out of Crossroads. The completed constellation will help fund its own requirement.

[EolSunder]

Yep what anathema said also. Its easy to see if you can delete a previous devotion or area, it won't let you if you need it, but if you can delete it, nice! Once you get devotions up, say 30 points , look to see if there are any earlier devotions/points that you really aren't benefiting from and can delete to put those few points on the way to a much better one. Doesn't cost much, isn't going to hurt you, you can always repick them if you want. Very easy to switch everything around.

[DoctorDarling]

"I've noticed you don't already know how to play the game, make sure to ruin your character by just picking random stuff instead of following a build from people who know how to play the game"

Yeah okay dude, thanks for that. Real helpful. Excuse me for trying to learn the mechanics of a game through resources that are out there. Buzz off.

Thank you to the people who weren't rude for no reason and actually offered input and help. <3 Cheers.

[DoctorDarling]

Originally posted by EolSunder:

Yep what anathema said also. Its easy to see if you can delete a previous devotion or area, it won't let you if you need it, but if you can delete it, nice! Once you get devotions up, say 30 points , look to see if there are any earlier devotions/points that you really aren't benefiting from and can delete to put those few points on the way to a much better one. Doesn't cost much, isn't going to hurt you, you can always repick them if you want. Very easy to switch everything around.

Do I respec devotion points at the same place as skill points in devil's crossing?

[burdfishdemon]

Originally posted by eLIAS tHE fLYEST:

Originally posted by EolSunder:

Yep what anathema said also. Its easy to see if you can delete a previous devotion or area, it won't let you if you need it, but if you can delete it, nice! Once you get devotions up, say 30 points , look to see if there are any earlier devotions/points that you really aren't benefiting from and can delete to put those few points on the way to a much better one. Doesn't cost much, isn't going to hurt you, you can always repick them if you want. Very easy to switch everything around.

Do I respec devotion points at the same place as skill points in devil's crossing?

Yes via the spirit guide. You should be able to click on the devotion tree. You'll need Aether crystals.

[EolSunder]

yep dont worry about it right away, just get some devotions that work with your build under your belt, game isn't hard for a while so just get them up and running. Like i said, when you reach maybe 20-25 devotion points, have a half dozen constellations open, then stop, take a look, and plan out your devotions to better ones that look good.

Remember those builds your looking at are usually level 100, you aren't going to get there for a VERY VERY long time. So pick devotions that benefit your character. When you get maybe 25 devotion points invested, THEN take a look to see where your going, what can be changed, etc.

Play the game a while, have fun, don't worry about such and such builds, etc. You can always respec stuff later skills and devotion wise, isn't hard.

You don't really even need to pick your 2nd skill tree right away. You'll have plenty of points to fill in your main tree.

1) Get your main class tree up to max level 50 asap. Get those stat points built up to wear gear that you need. Put 1 point into any skill that you plan on raising later. AFTER you max out your main class base skill points, THEN start raising up skills that your going to use a lot. Don't worry about your 2nd class selection until you get your main class up and running so he survives easy. So if your going to be a soldier/shaman 2 hander, with physical damage. Since soldier handles the physical, and usually shaman is more a 2 handed electrical build, get your soldier up to 50 base points, pick 1 skill of the ones you plan on raising later, then once you reach max level 50 in soldier base skill points take a break and figure out what your final build will be.

Don't worry you'll have fun, thats the main thing. You don't need a perfect build, you can change stuff later. Test it out, see what skills you like, what you don't like. The only thing you can't change are your 2 class selections, so don't be in a rush to pick your 2nd one. Develop your main class, THEN later pick your 2nd. I usually don't even pick my 2nd much later in the game. You might change your mind on your 2nd after you play a while so don't just pick one to pick one.

[DoctorDarling]

Ohhh see I didn't know I could also respec devotion points so I was stressing on it. I come from Diablo 2 days where you spend 409 hours leveling a character and have to start over because you ruined it being dumb. Alright thanks y'all.

[EolSunder]

yep skill points and devotion points easy to respec and cheap, crystals you might need are easily farmed from a couple easy areas. Im not a pro with devotions either and often have to respec because i didn't read something right, or realized that the devotion i have in such and such an area isn't really beneficial. Like with the kraken that works with 2 handed weapons, i actually put it on my dual welding gunner, and realized later that it didn't work with a 2 weapon build at all lol. Had to pick up other stuff.