Crate of entertainment

[DirtyMick]

So I'm working on a crate killer in hardcore, already lost 3 guys attempting it. I went through my mules and found some amazing physical retaliation gear. Like, triple rares with huge bonuses. And then i spent the last few days hunting for even better greens and found them. My warlord is a monster. I will post the grimtools later when im off work, but i also kinda wanna wait till i find an even better triple rare helm.

I noticed crate has 75% reduced reflected damage, but I also killed callagadra pretty easily, and he has the same reduction. Looking around it seems that good pet builds are the easiest way to kill crate, but I find pets so boring. I also crafted a ton of gloves for reduced burn duration cuz of crates meteors, but just now I noticed that the meteors don't even have burn damage listed lol. Maybe one of the little crates does burn damage though. Idk, I guess I'm just looking for any little tips from any experienced crate killers. Do you think phys retaliation tanks can take him out? If I fail with this guy, I will probably resort to a pet build just for him.

Grim tools:
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4VxBG5pN

Any tips would be appreciated if u see a weakness. I dont care about having more damage though.

[Uzul]

I killed him with an assembly based on Bloody Pox.
And the Crate shoots at you, and this does not cause retaliatory damage. But that's why I haven't even tried it, because I can't be 100% sure.

[DirtyMick]

Originally posted by Uzul:

I killed him with an assembly based on Bloody Pox.
And the Crate shoots at you, and this does not cause retaliatory damage. But that's why I haven't even tried it, because I can't be 100% sure.

I actually copied a conjurer build that definitely could've beaten him, but I ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and died to the maggots on the way :/ (it used bloody pox)
My plan is to ignore the crates and just focus on the main guy. I've only seen crate twice in action, once on softcore just to test, and then once with my acid retaliation guy who just didn't cut it tank wise. There is a main guy with 2 axes that beats on you, right? I play with super low graphics and it's kinda hard to see in that area lol. It looked like a dual wielding crate-headed man slicing away at me, and then all those little crates. So i imagine the main guy will be taking a lot of retaliation and it's just a matter of surviving everything while I slowly wittle him down.

But if he only shoots me, then yes, this build is definitely not gonna work...

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

he casts projectiles as his auto attack, so ignores retal, like Mogdrogen with his stun jacks attack
ignore crates, in fact a good strat is to keep kiting him away from crates if you can't survive facetank under the tree
maggots on the way in are not hostile, you can turn of dmg auras etc until you locate the right one - maggots are also susceptible to CC so you can ex stunlock them while you find and kill the right one
crates are also susceptible to some CC like slow
the reflected dmg reduct is basically irrelevant, it has nothing todo with retal, nor do player have any real reflect skill available anymore (mark of torment)
stuff like mega heals/leech build or multiple layered defences/circuitbreaker stuff can usually facetank him under the tree (to prevent meteor dmg),
DoT builds have a decent time kiting him, as long as they aren't squishy setups since you still need a little cushioning despite kiting,
and ofc a couple of ranged builds/gunners can just pew pew him from a distance without much consideration as long as their dps is high enough
and regular dmg builds can with a bit of chonk rotate fight him, kite, fight, kite fight, when boxes get too close or meteors spawn
keep in mind that the big box "name me" crate is something to pay attention to, as it will straight up 1shot most builds, so keep an eye on the spawn and make sure to not be engaged in close fight if the spawn cooldown is about to be up

[DirtyMick]

Originally posted by gNuff!~©~gNom3™:

he casts projectiles as his auto attack, so ignores retal, like Mogdrogen with his stun jacks attack
ignore crates, in fact a good strat is to keep kiting him away from crates if you can't survive facetank under the tree
maggots on the way in are not hostile, you can turn of dmg auras etc until you locate the right one - maggots are also susceptible to CC so you can ex stunlock them while you find and kill the right one
crates are also susceptible to some CC like slow
the reflected dmg reduct is basically irrelevant, it has nothing todo with retal, nor do player have any real reflect skill available anymore (mark of torment)
stuff like mega heals/leech build or multiple layered defences/circuitbreaker stuff can usually facetank him under the tree (to prevent meteor dmg),
DoT builds have a decent time kiting him, as long as they aren't squishy setups since you still need a little cushioning despite kiting,
and ofc a couple of ranged builds/gunners can just pew pew him from a distance without much consideration as long as their dps is high enough
and regular dmg builds can with a bit of chonk rotate fight him, kite, fight, kite fight, when boxes get too close or meteors spawn
keep in mind that the big box "name me" crate is something to pay attention to, as it will straight up 1shot most builds, so keep an eye on the spawn and make sure to not be engaged in close fight if the spawn cooldown is about to be up

Oh God, and the NAME ME crate looks just like the other crates I'm guessing? Ugh this gonna be tough lol. Good to know about the tree though... and now I see what reflected damage reduction is. It's purely for reflect, not retaliation. Makes sense. Thanks. Hopefully my damage from RATA (which i am lacking) and devotions will be enough to kill him.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

name me crate is larger, it's pretty big compared to the small attacking ones, also isn't a million of them at the same time

[DirtyMick]

Originally posted by gNuff!~©~gNom3™:

name me crate is larger, it's pretty big compared to the small attacking ones, also isn't a million of them at the same time

And it goes away after a bit? I can check that on grimtools I'm sure.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

it doesn't live very long, that's part of the danger, since on death it applies a ton of dmg

[DirtyMick]

Originally posted by gNuff!~©~gNom3™:

it doesn't live very long, that's part of the danger, since on death it applies a ton of dmg

Oh God ya, just looked it up lol. 10k phys + 10k aether AoE on death. Arbitrarily debuffs cuz designers were lazy hahaha. And yeah, lasts 10 seconds, with an 8 second spawn interval. Thanks for the heads up, I'll definitely watch out for that thing.

[DirtyMick]

Wow.... got him down to about 40% health but the boxes were pretty much everywhere at all times. So many of them that the fps started dropping. It just got too scary so I left. Bahh oh well.... maybe next char. Learned a lot during that fight and didn't lose my guy so I'm happy lol.

[gNuff!~©~gNom3™]

have you watched any YT vids of people doing it with the various diff approaches/builds?

[Wintermute]

Originally posted by DirtyMick:

Wow.... got him down to about 40% health but the boxes were pretty much everywhere at all times. So many of them that the fps started dropping. It just got too scary so I left. Bahh oh well.... maybe next char. Learned a lot during that fight and didn't lose my guy so I'm happy lol.

They replicate on death. Normally, going for Crate, you'd want to contain your AOE.

[DirtyMick]

Originally posted by Wintermute:

Originally posted by DirtyMick:

Wow.... got him down to about 40% health but the boxes were pretty much everywhere at all times. So many of them that the fps started dropping. It just got too scary so I left. Bahh oh well.... maybe next char. Learned a lot during that fight and didn't lose my guy so I'm happy lol.

They replicate on death. Normally, going for Crate, you'd want to contain your AOE.

Ya, they were slowly dying from various blitzes and leaps and war cries over time. I was seriously fighting him for a half hour lol. I'll just have to go for a different build. Maybe even change my warlord into something else... or I'll try my battlemage.

I'm actually gonna try fighting him again first. Now I know I can tank soooo many of them, I'm gonna try to be way more aggressive and run around less.

[DirtyMick]

Originally posted by gNuff!~©~gNom3™:

have you watched any YT vids of people doing it with the various diff approaches/builds?

Yeah. I was gonna do it with a dark ones conjurer build that was very capable, but I derped out on the maggots. Kept pressing 5 out of muscle memory to leap,away from them, but 5 was NOT a mobility skill on my hotbar lol. It was so dumb ><
And before that, I was gonna use a storm totem druid that I watched a video of. But that was my first attempt and I went in blind. The video said nothing about the maggots. So I just didn't know back then. Attacked em like normal maggots and died immediately.

[Silhouette Fleur]

What on Cairn is a Crate Killer?

[DirtyMick]

Originally posted by Silhouette Fleur:

What on Cairn is a Crate Killer?

Lol just a char capable of killing crate. It's been harder than I thought it would be. This char dead now lol rip.